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Shenan Stanley wrote:
snip You can control how much space your Temporary Internet Files can utilize... Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a size between 64MB and 128MB.. - Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer. - Select TOOLS - Internet Options. - Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the following: - Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK) - Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to something between 64MB and 128MB. (It may be MUCH larger right now.) - Click OK. - Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents" (the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10 minutes or more.) - Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet Explorer. Shenan, I have IE8- 8.0.600 18702 and Under General Tab I find no Temp Int Files. Please advise |
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"William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Roy Smith wrote: On 6/17/2010 11:16 AM, William B. Lurie wrote: ... [big snip] ... With 1 TB hard drives costing around $100 US why not get a bigger drive? Roy, it's not a matter of money. The bigger the drive, the higher the probability that the drive will crash (as they do, albeit infrequently) and then I've lost even more. I remember the days when 10 Megabytes was a large hard drive, and now my smallest one 8000 times that size. Call me old-fashioned. Tell me about a belt and suspenders. I won't disagree. I'd never rely on just _one_ of any backup medium. My standard strategy: two removable drives, one in day-to-day use, one "somewhere else", reasonably frequently rotated, so that my maximum loss is no more than a few days if no backup drive crashes, or a longer, but still manageable period if one backup drive crashes. If the main and both backup drives were to crash, I'd still be in serious trouble. |
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"William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Roy Smith wrote: On 6/17/2010 11:16 AM, William B. Lurie wrote: ... [big snip] ... With 1 TB hard drives costing around $100 US why not get a bigger drive? Roy, it's not a matter of money. The bigger the drive, the higher the probability that the drive will crash (as they do, albeit infrequently) and then I've lost even more. I remember the days when 10 Megabytes was a large hard drive, and now my smallest one 8000 times that size. Call me old-fashioned. Tell me about a belt and suspenders. I won't disagree. I'd never rely on just _one_ of any backup medium. My standard strategy: two removable drives, one in day-to-day use, one "somewhere else", reasonably frequently rotated, so that my maximum loss is no more than a few days if no backup drive crashes, or a longer, but still manageable period if one backup drive crashes. If the main and both backup drives were to crash, I'd still be in serious trouble. |
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William B. Lurie wrote: Shenan, I have IE8- 8.0.600 18702 and Under General Tab I find no Temp Int Files. Please advise "General Tab" -- section labeled "Browsing History" you'll notice it says, "Delete Temporary Files, history, cookies..." Same thing when you get in - delete all by whatever means necessary. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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William B. Lurie wrote: Shenan, I have IE8- 8.0.600 18702 and Under General Tab I find no Temp Int Files. Please advise "General Tab" -- section labeled "Browsing History" you'll notice it says, "Delete Temporary Files, history, cookies..." Same thing when you get in - delete all by whatever means necessary. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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snipped FWIW, Shenan, my partition has 7.6GB Windows, 5 GB Doc and Settings, 4.5 GB Program Files, 3 GB '.....Files', 1 GB Norton, and a bunch more, smaller, as reported by running FullDisk.. I looked at hiberfil.sys and it is 1.3 GB. Out of curiosity, I would have expected this to be a file which would be created on the fly when the system goes into hibernation, and gets deleted routinely as having served its purpose when it comes out of hibernation. I'm still absorbing the rest of your advice. |
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snipped FWIW, Shenan, my partition has 7.6GB Windows, 5 GB Doc and Settings, 4.5 GB Program Files, 3 GB '.....Files', 1 GB Norton, and a bunch more, smaller, as reported by running FullDisk.. I looked at hiberfil.sys and it is 1.3 GB. Out of curiosity, I would have expected this to be a file which would be created on the fly when the system goes into hibernation, and gets deleted routinely as having served its purpose when it comes out of hibernation. I'm still absorbing the rest of your advice. |
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William B. Lurie wrote:
My Master system (XP/Home/SP3) has been growing and growing and is now nearing 20GB. I get rid of programs that I have no need for periodically, but it occurs to me that Windows Update has favored me with a zillion KB's over the years, downloaded and installed them. I wonder why I still need to store the KB's themselves. Isn't there a way to delete the accumulated KB's that have been incorporated? Such as, why not from Add/Remove Programs? I will always have a backup system that has them if they're needed. And I'm aware that 'support' for XP/SP2 is going away shortly. Assuming that by "Master system" you're referring to the contents of WinXP's various system files.... If you're referring to the numerous "$NtUninstall...." folders within your C:\Windows directory and are confident that you won't need to uninstall either the most recent service pack or any of the subsequent hot-fixes, you can safely delete those folders. A primary space waster within each user profile would be IE's penchant for storing copies (or significant portions thereof) of nearly every web page your friend has ever visited. Try reducing the amount of temporary Internet files cached, which is huge by default. I always reduce it to a maximum of 50 Mb. In Internet Explorer, click Tools Internet Options General, Temporary Files Settings. Same principle for the Java cache. Start Control Panel Java Temporary Internet Files Settings. The System Volume Information is the folder in which WinXP's System Restore feature stores information used to recover from errors. By default, WinXP sets aside a maximum of 12% of the partition's size for storing System Volume Information, but the amount of space set aside for this purpose can be adjusted by the user. Start All Programs Accessories System Tools System Restore System Restore Settings, select the pertinent partition and click Settings. If you don't want to use System Restore at all, simply turn off the System Restore feature (Start All Programs Accessories System Tools System Restore, System Restore Settings) and reboot. This will delete all of your Restore Points, freeing up the hard drive space. Another great waster of space can be the Recycle Bin. By default, this takes up to 10% of your hard drive capacity. On today's large hard drives, this is tremendously wasteful. It can be set to a lower limit by right-clicking the desktop Receycle Bin icon, selecting Properties, and using the slider bar to lower the maximum size to something more reasonable -- 1% to 2% should be more than enough space. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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William B. Lurie wrote:
My Master system (XP/Home/SP3) has been growing and growing and is now nearing 20GB. I get rid of programs that I have no need for periodically, but it occurs to me that Windows Update has favored me with a zillion KB's over the years, downloaded and installed them. I wonder why I still need to store the KB's themselves. Isn't there a way to delete the accumulated KB's that have been incorporated? Such as, why not from Add/Remove Programs? I will always have a backup system that has them if they're needed. And I'm aware that 'support' for XP/SP2 is going away shortly. Assuming that by "Master system" you're referring to the contents of WinXP's various system files.... If you're referring to the numerous "$NtUninstall...." folders within your C:\Windows directory and are confident that you won't need to uninstall either the most recent service pack or any of the subsequent hot-fixes, you can safely delete those folders. A primary space waster within each user profile would be IE's penchant for storing copies (or significant portions thereof) of nearly every web page your friend has ever visited. Try reducing the amount of temporary Internet files cached, which is huge by default. I always reduce it to a maximum of 50 Mb. In Internet Explorer, click Tools Internet Options General, Temporary Files Settings. Same principle for the Java cache. Start Control Panel Java Temporary Internet Files Settings. The System Volume Information is the folder in which WinXP's System Restore feature stores information used to recover from errors. By default, WinXP sets aside a maximum of 12% of the partition's size for storing System Volume Information, but the amount of space set aside for this purpose can be adjusted by the user. Start All Programs Accessories System Tools System Restore System Restore Settings, select the pertinent partition and click Settings. If you don't want to use System Restore at all, simply turn off the System Restore feature (Start All Programs Accessories System Tools System Restore, System Restore Settings) and reboot. This will delete all of your Restore Points, freeing up the hard drive space. Another great waster of space can be the Recycle Bin. By default, this takes up to 10% of your hard drive capacity. On today's large hard drives, this is tremendously wasteful. It can be set to a lower limit by right-clicking the desktop Receycle Bin icon, selecting Properties, and using the slider bar to lower the maximum size to something more reasonable -- 1% to 2% should be more than enough space. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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William B. Lurie wrote:
snipped FWIW, Shenan, my partition has 7.6GB Windows, 5 GB Doc and Settings, 4.5 GB Program Files, 3 GB '.....Files', 1 GB Norton, and a bunch more, smaller, as reported by running FullDisk.. I looked at hiberfil.sys and it is 1.3 GB. Out of curiosity, I would have expected this to be a file which would be created on the fly when the system goes into hibernation, and gets deleted routinely as having served its purpose when it comes out of hibernation. As long as hiberbnation is enabled, there must be a sizeable hiberfil.sys file. Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to hibernate. :-) Even if you were to start Windows and not run any particular programs (other than the ones that are configured to run at startup), what you have loaded into memory is still quite sizeable! |
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William B. Lurie wrote:
snipped FWIW, Shenan, my partition has 7.6GB Windows, 5 GB Doc and Settings, 4.5 GB Program Files, 3 GB '.....Files', 1 GB Norton, and a bunch more, smaller, as reported by running FullDisk.. I looked at hiberfil.sys and it is 1.3 GB. Out of curiosity, I would have expected this to be a file which would be created on the fly when the system goes into hibernation, and gets deleted routinely as having served its purpose when it comes out of hibernation. As long as hiberbnation is enabled, there must be a sizeable hiberfil.sys file. Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to hibernate. :-) Even if you were to start Windows and not run any particular programs (other than the ones that are configured to run at startup), what you have loaded into memory is still quite sizeable! |
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William B. Lurie wrote:
Daave wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: Daave wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: What I don't like is having a 20GB-sized system that used to be a lot smaller.....and now performing partition operations takes just that much longer, moving all that stuff which I regard as having served its purpose. In the overall scheme of things, 20GB isn't that huge. What kind of partition operations do you perform that are now taking longer than they used to? Daave, I do a system backup every week or so, and I delete an older backup to make room for a new one. Then I make a clone from the saved backup and test the clone to make sure I can always jump right back if I have to. What do you mean by "system backup." If you were to make incremental images, then the size of your partition doesn't matter too much. Plus, you could automate the process and have it run in the background. As long as your hard drive is large enough, a 20GB-sized system shouldn't matter much to you. But Shenan Stanley's exhaustive advice just received has a lot that I knew, a lot that I didn't, and will require a lot of study. Yup, he's very thorough! BTW, I have all XP System Restore inoperative. I prefer a full bootable copy to fall back on. On a separate drive. I like System Restore. Once in a blue moon, it has come in handy. And it's quick and easy. To me, Daave, 'system backup' means Norton Save & Restore, the successor to PowerQuest's Ghost, which makes a drive image of the complete OS and everything else in that partition. And from that I make a clone, a full restore on a different hard drive, which I keep as an almost instant substitute for the Master system. I know that there are simpler ways, that take less time and space, and I know that I go overboard regarding 'backup'....but I just have to be me. Doesn't the Norton program have the ability to perform incremental images automatically, behind the scenes? If so, the size of your system is irrelevant as long as your hard drive is large enough. Or do you always manually create full images? Hey, if this is how you want to do things, it's your life. :-) At least, you have adequate and reliable backups. :-) |
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William B. Lurie wrote: Daave wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: Daave wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: What I don't like is having a 20GB-sized system that used to be a lot smaller.....and now performing partition operations takes just that much longer, moving all that stuff which I regard as having served its purpose. In the overall scheme of things, 20GB isn't that huge. What kind of partition operations do you perform that are now taking longer than they used to? Daave, I do a system backup every week or so, and I delete an older backup to make room for a new one. Then I make a clone from the saved backup and test the clone to make sure I can always jump right back if I have to. What do you mean by "system backup." If you were to make incremental images, then the size of your partition doesn't matter too much. Plus, you could automate the process and have it run in the background. As long as your hard drive is large enough, a 20GB-sized system shouldn't matter much to you. But Shenan Stanley's exhaustive advice just received has a lot that I knew, a lot that I didn't, and will require a lot of study. Yup, he's very thorough! BTW, I have all XP System Restore inoperative. I prefer a full bootable copy to fall back on. On a separate drive. I like System Restore. Once in a blue moon, it has come in handy. And it's quick and easy. To me, Daave, 'system backup' means Norton Save & Restore, the successor to PowerQuest's Ghost, which makes a drive image of the complete OS and everything else in that partition. And from that I make a clone, a full restore on a different hard drive, which I keep as an almost instant substitute for the Master system. I know that there are simpler ways, that take less time and space, and I know that I go overboard regarding 'backup'....but I just have to be me. Doesn't the Norton program have the ability to perform incremental images automatically, behind the scenes? If so, the size of your system is irrelevant as long as your hard drive is large enough. Or do you always manually create full images? Hey, if this is how you want to do things, it's your life. :-) At least, you have adequate and reliable backups. :-) |
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Daave wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote: Daave wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: Daave wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: What I don't like is having a 20GB-sized system that used to be a lot smaller.....and now performing partition operations takes just that much longer, moving all that stuff which I regard as having served its purpose. In the overall scheme of things, 20GB isn't that huge. What kind of partition operations do you perform that are now taking longer than they used to? Daave, I do a system backup every week or so, and I delete an older backup to make room for a new one. Then I make a clone from the saved backup and test the clone to make sure I can always jump right back if I have to. What do you mean by "system backup." If you were to make incremental images, then the size of your partition doesn't matter too much. Plus, you could automate the process and have it run in the background. As long as your hard drive is large enough, a 20GB-sized system shouldn't matter much to you. But Shenan Stanley's exhaustive advice just received has a lot that I knew, a lot that I didn't, and will require a lot of study. Yup, he's very thorough! BTW, I have all XP System Restore inoperative. I prefer a full bootable copy to fall back on. On a separate drive. I like System Restore. Once in a blue moon, it has come in handy. And it's quick and easy. To me, Daave, 'system backup' means Norton Save & Restore, the successor to PowerQuest's Ghost, which makes a drive image of the complete OS and everything else in that partition. And from that I make a clone, a full restore on a different hard drive, which I keep as an almost instant substitute for the Master system. I know that there are simpler ways, that take less time and space, and I know that I go overboard regarding 'backup'....but I just have to be me. Doesn't the Norton program have the ability to perform incremental images automatically, behind the scenes? If so, the size of your system is irrelevant as long as your hard drive is large enough. Or do you always manually create full images? Hey, if this is how you want to do things, it's your life. :-) At least, you have adequate and reliable backups. :-) I found the incremental method too confusing; it may be available, but as we said... I gotta do it ......MYYYY WAYYYY. |
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Daave wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote: Daave wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: Daave wrote: William B. Lurie wrote: What I don't like is having a 20GB-sized system that used to be a lot smaller.....and now performing partition operations takes just that much longer, moving all that stuff which I regard as having served its purpose. In the overall scheme of things, 20GB isn't that huge. What kind of partition operations do you perform that are now taking longer than they used to? Daave, I do a system backup every week or so, and I delete an older backup to make room for a new one. Then I make a clone from the saved backup and test the clone to make sure I can always jump right back if I have to. What do you mean by "system backup." If you were to make incremental images, then the size of your partition doesn't matter too much. Plus, you could automate the process and have it run in the background. As long as your hard drive is large enough, a 20GB-sized system shouldn't matter much to you. But Shenan Stanley's exhaustive advice just received has a lot that I knew, a lot that I didn't, and will require a lot of study. Yup, he's very thorough! BTW, I have all XP System Restore inoperative. I prefer a full bootable copy to fall back on. On a separate drive. I like System Restore. Once in a blue moon, it has come in handy. And it's quick and easy. To me, Daave, 'system backup' means Norton Save & Restore, the successor to PowerQuest's Ghost, which makes a drive image of the complete OS and everything else in that partition. And from that I make a clone, a full restore on a different hard drive, which I keep as an almost instant substitute for the Master system. I know that there are simpler ways, that take less time and space, and I know that I go overboard regarding 'backup'....but I just have to be me. Doesn't the Norton program have the ability to perform incremental images automatically, behind the scenes? If so, the size of your system is irrelevant as long as your hard drive is large enough. Or do you always manually create full images? Hey, if this is how you want to do things, it's your life. :-) At least, you have adequate and reliable backups. :-) I found the incremental method too confusing; it may be available, but as we said... I gotta do it ......MYYYY WAYYYY. |
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