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XP Pro FAX
William B. Lurie wrote:
Sharon F wrote: On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:31:29 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote: So I followed your msconfigExpand clue, and "expanded" a few of them and saved them in a new folder C:\dllfiles. As I stated before, I didn't think that would work. At least you've learned how to expand files if the need should ever arise. Have you tried copying the i386 folder from the borrowed CD to the hard drive and using that to install yet? Gosh, I'm afraid to do that! Maybe if I put the existing folder into storage someplace, so I can put it back if need be. I guess that's my next step. I can't understand why it says go to i386 on the CD and then when I click it, it refuses to do anything. Continuing.... Since I had no i386 folder, I copied the CD i386 to my hard drive (in c:\ directory), and saw that it had most of the 'fxs' series of files. Then I tried the install, and it balked at a few, and I allowed it to ignore those, figuring I can go back later and try to install those few. Eventually I got it to complete the install, and now I have to find out which files are missing, and get them into C:\i386, and uninstall the partially installed FAX that I have, and see if I can reinstall it. After that, I'll have to find out how to run it...I see it under AccessoriesCommunicationFax but that doesn't do anything (yet). You must have read what that irresponsible intruder wrote.....one of the failings of this newsgroup system is that people who aren't able to follow what is happening, or who don't bother to read the messages thoroughly, think it's their place to jump in. I guess we just have to ignore them. Eventually they get bored and find other people to annoy for no other purpose. WBL |
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XP Pro FAX
"William B. Lurie" wrote ... Morgana, there are 19 files starting with 'fx' and with .dl_ extension. I can't ask you to e-mail me all 19, and who knows what else will be needed after that hurdle is crossed. It really would be more proper for the people closer to Microsoft to do it, and I've been hoping they'd pick up the ball instead of letting me fumble it. Bill L. Bill L ... why not are we not here to help each other. yes there are 19 .. just counted them easy to put them into several packages and send them .. I already scanned them for bugs .. yes possibly another hurdle ... as I recall there were several .. but now cannot remember .... all I do remember .. I was mad that it was not easy but I was going to overcome .. as you wish best of luck. Morgana. |
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Morgana. wrote:
"William B. Lurie" wrote ... Morgana, there are 19 files starting with 'fx' and with .dl_ extension. I can't ask you to e-mail me all 19, and who knows what else will be needed after that hurdle is crossed. It really would be more proper for the people closer to Microsoft to do it, and I've been hoping they'd pick up the ball instead of letting me fumble it. Bill L. Bill L ... why not are we not here to help each other. yes there are 19 .. just counted them easy to put them into several packages and send them .. I already scanned them for bugs .. yes possibly another hurdle ... as I recall there were several .. but now cannot remember .... all I do remember .. I was mad that it was not easy but I was going to overcome .. as you wish best of luck. Morgana. Thanks, Morgana.....I don't want to put you to any trouble. And it's hard to get them transmitted without spreading e-mail addresses all over the newsgroup, a wide open invitation to spammers and virus peddlers. I'll keep your generous offer handy, though. Bill L. |
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XP Pro FAX
"William B. Lurie" wrote
... Morgana. wrote: "William B. Lurie" wrote ... Morgana, there are 19 files starting with 'fx' and with .dl_ extension. I can't ask you to e-mail me all 19, and who knows what else will be needed after that hurdle is crossed. It really would be more proper for the people closer to Microsoft to do it, and I've been hoping they'd pick up the ball instead of letting me fumble it. Bill L. Bill L ... why not are we not here to help each other. yes there are 19 .. just counted them easy to put them into several packages and send them .. I already scanned them for bugs .. yes possibly another hurdle ... as I recall there were several .. but now cannot remember .... all I do remember .. I was mad that it was not easy but I was going to overcome .. as you wish best of luck. Morgana. Thanks, Morgana.....I don't want to put you to any trouble. And it's hard to get them transmitted without spreading e-mail addresses all over the newsgroup, a wide open invitation to spammers and virus peddlers. I'll keep your generous offer handy, though. Bill L. yvw .. think they go into system32 but for good measure I also put them into system ... hth .. Morgana. |
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:32:23 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote:
Continuing.... Since I had no i386 folder, I copied the CD i386 to my hard drive (in c:\ directory), and saw that it had most of the 'fxs' series of files. Then I tried the install, and it balked at a few, and I allowed it to ignore those, figuring I can go back later and try to install those few Okay. That part of the plan sounds good. Eventually I got it to complete the install, and now I have to find out which files are missing, and get them into C:\i386, You lost me here. Why would you put files into that folder? It's the source for the installation - not the target. If you did put files here, they should be the compressed form - not the expanded form. and uninstall the partially installed FAX that I have, and see if I can reinstall it. Ok. This I can see doing. Also, if you've been using "add components" from the CD popup screen, try using Add Components from Control Panel instead. You must have read what that irresponsible intruder wrote... Wislu can seem brash at times but often posts good advice. These newsgroups originate at Microsoft's servers and are propagated to the usenet backbone. Usenet can be a tough playground. Concentrate on the technical issues/advice. Ignore the rest. -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User |
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"Sharon F" wrote in message ... Wislu can seem brash at times but often posts good advice. These newsgroups originate at Microsoft's servers and are propagated to the usenet backbone. Usenet can be a tough playground. Concentrate on the technical issues/advice. Ignore the rest. Yes, and when he has a "faux pas", he runs away when he is caught hip hugging someone face to fly! |
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Can you expand those dll files to a temp folder first, then direct the wizard to
that temp file? "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Sharon F wrote: On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:45:12 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote: It didn't get installed on this PC. I believe it's on the CD. How do I install it? Thanks. Bill Lurie Control Panel Add/Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. Place a check next to Fax Services and click Next. You may be prompted for the WinXP CD. If you run into problems, direct the wizard to the i386 folder on the CD. HOW TO: Enable and Configure the Fax Service in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=306550 Sharon, I tried what you said, as I did last year at Rob's direction. I just tried it with two different XP CDs. It prompted, saying it needed file fxsevent.dll and I browsed to i386 on the CD, and when I hit Enter, it changed what was in my windows to \f\i386 or almost that, but it never found the .dll file. Browsing on the CD I find a zillion files starting ith fx .... and all with extension .dl_ ..... Incidentally, I don't even have to go to Add/Remove etcetera..... Just insertying the CD and waiting, its autorun starts it up and gives me four choices, one of which is to Add Windows Optional Components. That leads to the same impasse. You and Rob are reminding me that I'm following the same steps which didn't get that FAX installed last year. As a scientist I'm curious as to why I follow the right steps and get to where the 'uninstalled' .dl_ files are, and the installer doesn't convert them to .dll files and install them. I know I can buck it to the Microsoft insider Online Tech support people, but I like to save that recourse for problems that really *have* to be solved. -- William B. Lurie |
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"Sharon F" wrote in message ... Wislu can seem brash at times but often posts good advice. These newsgroups originate at Microsoft's servers and are propagated to the usenet backbone. Usenet can be a tough playground. Concentrate on the technical issues/advice. Ignore the rest. Yes, and when he has a "faux pas", he runs away when he is caught hip hugging someone face to fly! There is no excuse for him to be downright snotty when it is obvious that people are here to be helped and to be helpful. -- William B. Lurie |
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XP Pro FAX
While on the subject of faxing, is there any software available that will
allow a fax to be sent via broadband to a fax machine? William B. Lurie wrote: That's one of the techniques which I'm trying...... but it isn't entirely clear what is expanded and what isn't. I think I expanded one .dl_ file and ended up with a .dll file the same size. Thanks for the helpful contribution. wrote: Can you expand those dll files to a temp folder first, then direct the wizard to that temp file? "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Sharon F wrote: On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:45:12 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote: It didn't get installed on this PC. I believe it's on the CD. How do I install it? Thanks. Bill Lurie Control Panel Add/Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. Place a check next to Fax Services and click Next. You may be prompted for the WinXP CD. If you run into problems, direct the wizard to the i386 folder on the CD. HOW TO: Enable and Configure the Fax Service in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=306550 Sharon, I tried what you said, as I did last year at Rob's direction. I just tried it with two different XP CDs. It prompted, saying it needed file fxsevent.dll and I browsed to i386 on the CD, and when I hit Enter, it changed what was in my windows to \f\i386 or almost that, but it never found the .dll file. Browsing on the CD I find a zillion files starting ith fx .... and all with extension .dl_ ..... Incidentally, I don't even have to go to Add/Remove etcetera..... Just insertying the CD and waiting, its autorun starts it up and gives me four choices, one of which is to Add Windows Optional Components. That leads to the same impasse. You and Rob are reminding me that I'm following the same steps which didn't get that FAX installed last year. As a scientist I'm curious as to why I follow the right steps and get to where the 'uninstalled' .dl_ files are, and the installer doesn't convert them to .dll files and install them. I know I can buck it to the Microsoft insider Online Tech support people, but I like to save that recourse for problems that really *have* to be solved. -- William B. Lurie -- William B. Lurie |
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You need to sign up for a "service" on the internet that you send your
fax image to, and on their end they have a modem connected to the "plain old telephone system" to make the call to complete the fax. Search Google or equivalent for a service. A list I just found is at http://www.savetz.com/fax/ FAX requires connection to the phone system. Hope this is useful to you. Let us know. rms wrote: While on the subject of faxing, is there any software available that will allow a fax to be sent via broadband to a fax machine? William B. Lurie wrote: That's one of the techniques which I'm trying...... but it isn't entirely clear what is expanded and what isn't. I think I expanded one .dl_ file and ended up with a .dll file the same size. Thanks for the helpful contribution. wrote: Can you expand those dll files to a temp folder first, then direct the wizard to that temp file? "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Sharon F wrote: On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:45:12 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote: It didn't get installed on this PC. I believe it's on the CD. How do I install it? Thanks. Bill Lurie Control Panel Add/Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. Place a check next to Fax Services and click Next. You may be prompted for the WinXP CD. If you run into problems, direct the wizard to the i386 folder on the CD. HOW TO: Enable and Configure the Fax Service in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=306550 Sharon, I tried what you said, as I did last year at Rob's direction. I just tried it with two different XP CDs. It prompted, saying it needed file fxsevent.dll and I browsed to i386 on the CD, and when I hit Enter, it changed what was in my windows to \f\i386 or almost that, but it never found the .dll file. Browsing on the CD I find a zillion files starting ith fx .... and all with extension .dl_ ..... Incidentally, I don't even have to go to Add/Remove etcetera..... Just insertying the CD and waiting, its autorun starts it up and gives me four choices, one of which is to Add Windows Optional Components. That leads to the same impasse. You and Rob are reminding me that I'm following the same steps which didn't get that FAX installed last year. As a scientist I'm curious as to why I follow the right steps and get to where the 'uninstalled' .dl_ files are, and the installer doesn't convert them to .dll files and install them. I know I can buck it to the Microsoft insider Online Tech support people, but I like to save that recourse for problems that really *have* to be solved. -- William B. Lurie -- William B. Lurie |
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Yes, it is on the servers at eFax www.efax.com
You pay every month to send, but can get a fax back for free. The few faxes I do, I send from XP and if I want a fax back I use the free eFax service. " wrote in message ... | While on the subject of faxing, is there any software available that will | allow a fax to be sent via broadband to a fax machine? | | William B. Lurie wrote: | That's one of the techniques which I'm trying...... | but it isn't entirely clear what is expanded and what isn't. | I think I expanded one .dl_ file and ended up with a ..dll | file the same size. Thanks for the helpful contribution. | | wrote: | | Can you expand those dll files to a temp folder first, then direct | the wizard to that temp file? | | "William B. Lurie" wrote in message | ... | | Sharon F wrote: | | On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:45:12 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote: | | | | It didn't get installed on this PC. I believe it's | on the CD. How do I install it? Thanks. | | Bill Lurie | | | Control Panel Add/Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. | Place a check next to Fax Services and click Next. You may be | prompted for the WinXP CD. If you run into problems, direct the | wizard to the i386 folder on the CD. | | HOW TO: Enable and Configure the Fax Service in Windows XP | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=306550 | | | Sharon, I tried what you said, as I did last year at Rob's | direction. I just tried it with two different XP CDs. | It prompted, saying it needed file fxsevent.dll and | I browsed to i386 on the CD, and when I hit Enter, it | changed what was in my windows to \f\i386 or almost that, | but it never found the .dll file. Browsing on the CD I | find a zillion files starting ith fx .... and all with extension | .dl_ ..... | | Incidentally, I don't even have to go to Add/Remove etcetera..... | Just insertying the CD and waiting, its autorun starts it up | and gives me four choices, one of which is to Add Windows | Optional Components. That leads to the same impasse. | | You and Rob are reminding me that I'm following the same | steps which didn't get that FAX installed last year. As a | scientist I'm curious as to why I follow the right steps | and get to where the 'uninstalled' .dl_ files are, and the | installer doesn't convert them to .dll files and install them. | | I know I can buck it to the Microsoft insider Online Tech | support people, but I like to save that recourse for problems | that really *have* to be solved. | | -- | William B. Lurie | | | | | | -- | William B. Lurie | | |
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Next day. When we last talked, I had succeeded, by overlooking
some files, to complete the FAX installation. But it can not 'configure', as indicated by FAX(empty) when I click on FAX after AccessoriesCommunic.FAX. Not a surprise. So I took the next step: I was going to uninstall it and see how far it would reinstall. I did Add/RemoveAll Prog.Windows ProgramsFax and I thought it would uninstall (that's always been ambiguous to me). No, it flew right on through the whole FAX installation, and some of what it said along the way was that it was con figuring. Oh boy, I said (prematurely). When I went back to AccessoriesCommunic.FAX it still showed FAX empty. By left and right clicking around, I got to a .INI file, and this is what's in it: http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/faxini.txt Okay, Sharon, where do we go from here? Bill Lurie William B. Lurie wrote: Sharon, I've been experimenting with the Install Fax. I found a whole slew of thwe fxs*.dll files in my hard drive in C:\windows\system32\dllcache .... maybe even all that the Fax Installer might need. But it won't accept them in the installation process. So I followed your msconfigExpand clue, and "expanded" a few of them and saved them in a new folder C:\dllfiles. Well, when I tried to Install, leading it to that folder when it stopped during Install, looking for those files, it wouldn't take them, either. It insists it wants them from i386 on the CD ... yet, as I mentioned to you, on my XP Pro Installation CD (*not* my OEM's Restore CD), they are all present in .dl_ form. Has anything I've tried given you any more clues as to how I can get past this roadblock? |
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 06:32:04 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote:
There is no excuse for him to be downright snotty when it is obvious that people are here to be helped and to be helpful. I'm not trying to validate or excuse. The point is that you'll run into all kinds on the internet. It's more productive to take the "wheat" that a group has to offer and let the "chaff" blow away. -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User |
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:00:31 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/billurie/faxini.txt Okay, Sharon, where do we go from here? Well... I guess this is good news of a sort. Even though Fax isnt' entirely up and running yet, you've gone further with this than you did before. Where are you finding the blank fax entry in the start menu? When I installed it, the MS Fax items were the way the heck under Accessories somewhere. What is that faxini.txt file? Is it a leftover from the other fax software you were trying? Looks like this is a text file, not an INI file. Open in Notepad to see what it says. Where to go next... Go over to the Printer and Fax folder and get the fax printer installed. Also, may want to refer to that other article at this point: HOW TO: Enable and Configure the Fax Service in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=306550 -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User |
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