Drive partitions for windows xp installation

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purplehaz03 asked wistfully...

IMHO -- putting programs on another partition serves no purpose
really

OK, who left the door open?

He's probably an MVP.

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1 PRINT "Windows XP ERROR"
GOTO 1
END

Mhzjunkie asked wistfully...

||| OK, who left the door open?
||
|| He's probably an MVP.

My Veiny Penis?


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Mhzjunkie asked wistfully...

||| OK, who left the door open?
||
|| He's probably an MVP.

My Veiny Penis?


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gazwad,

if you consider what you are writing help, then please do not post anymore.
we are all here to help each other and this is made much more pleasant and
easy if someone does not have to be subjected to immature name-calling.

formatting your machine with a single partition is, in fact, not
"brain-dead," it is actually the preferred method in windows xp. this is
true, otherwise ms would not suggest doing just this, as they do in several
kb articles, here is one:
http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/tech/...reinstall.asp.
plus, the more partitions on your machine, the more you reduce your usable
storage capacity as each partition will need to claim some free space for
management, journaling, etc; and the more partitions, the more overhead you
place on file system management. this is made worse by xp's file placement
optimization, because it will have to worry about optimizing file placement
on several partitions, instead of just one.
additionally, the more partitions you have, the more complex your
installation becomes, especially for the novice user.
finally, the type of organization you claim to need separate partitions for
can be accomplished via the use of folders, with minimal drawbacks.

in conclusion, next time, if you dont have anything nice to say...


Dan DeStefano

"Gazwad" Dont Be So FarKing WeeTarDid wrote in message
...
Ryan A, Saravanja asked wistfully...

|| I'l be installing the windows xp on a clean formatted drive. I read
|| in PCWorld that it's beneficial to create separate partitions on
|| your drive.
||
|| Partition 1 - Windows XP operating system (so you can reformat if
|| the OS gets buggy)
|| Partition 2 - Other files
|| Partition 3 - windows swap file (prevents fragmentation of the drive)
||
|| What are your views on the subject and if you agree what size do you
|| recommend for the OS and swap file parititions?
||

There are numerous ways to set a computer up, many people have no idea how
to do things properly and some people have extra expectations or needs
from
the way they have theirs configured.

Anyone who suggests you use a single partition on a single disk is
brain-dead and can be ignored. The use of a second HDD in many ways is
preferable to partitioning a single disk but ultimately the best set-up
will
include several disks each with several partitions. Each partition
tailored
specifically to its contents/use.

For example I use a 10GB HDD which is split into 3 primary/bootable
partitions and only contains my operating systems.

Another disk is partitioned into 4 and is for data, programs which do not
need installation, temporary internet files and images of my OS.

Another disk has a small partition at the beginning of the disk which is
where the pagefile resides (on its own) the rest of the disk is used for
data, images, backups etc. which do not need to be accessed very often.

Your scheme is sound although having the pagefile in its own partition at
the end of a single drive could prove to be more of a performance hit
rather
than a benefit. However that wont be an issue because you are going to
install plenty of RAM, right?

At the end of the day there are several things that need to be considered
to
quantify how you can best configure your machine. Example uses, equipment
installed, CPU, RAM, PSU, number/type/size of HDD's.

Perhaps some of the considerations have already been made and that was the
reason you were researching this in the first place.

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gazwad,

if you consider what you are writing help, then please do not post anymore.
we are all here to help each other and this is made much more pleasant and
easy if someone does not have to be subjected to immature name-calling.

formatting your machine with a single partition is, in fact, not
"brain-dead," it is actually the preferred method in windows xp. this is
true, otherwise ms would not suggest doing just this, as they do in several
kb articles, here is one:
http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/tech/...reinstall.asp.
plus, the more partitions on your machine, the more you reduce your usable
storage capacity as each partition will need to claim some free space for
management, journaling, etc; and the more partitions, the more overhead you
place on file system management. this is made worse by xp's file placement
optimization, because it will have to worry about optimizing file placement
on several partitions, instead of just one.
additionally, the more partitions you have, the more complex your
installation becomes, especially for the novice user.
finally, the type of organization you claim to need separate partitions for
can be accomplished via the use of folders, with minimal drawbacks.

in conclusion, next time, if you dont have anything nice to say...


Dan DeStefano

"Gazwad" Dont Be So FarKing WeeTarDid wrote in message
...
Ryan A, Saravanja asked wistfully...

|| I'l be installing the windows xp on a clean formatted drive. I read
|| in PCWorld that it's beneficial to create separate partitions on
|| your drive.
||
|| Partition 1 - Windows XP operating system (so you can reformat if
|| the OS gets buggy)
|| Partition 2 - Other files
|| Partition 3 - windows swap file (prevents fragmentation of the drive)
||
|| What are your views on the subject and if you agree what size do you
|| recommend for the OS and swap file parititions?
||

There are numerous ways to set a computer up, many people have no idea how
to do things properly and some people have extra expectations or needs
from
the way they have theirs configured.

Anyone who suggests you use a single partition on a single disk is
brain-dead and can be ignored. The use of a second HDD in many ways is
preferable to partitioning a single disk but ultimately the best set-up
will
include several disks each with several partitions. Each partition
tailored
specifically to its contents/use.

For example I use a 10GB HDD which is split into 3 primary/bootable
partitions and only contains my operating systems.

Another disk is partitioned into 4 and is for data, programs which do not
need installation, temporary internet files and images of my OS.

Another disk has a small partition at the beginning of the disk which is
where the pagefile resides (on its own) the rest of the disk is used for
data, images, backups etc. which do not need to be accessed very often.

Your scheme is sound although having the pagefile in its own partition at
the end of a single drive could prove to be more of a performance hit
rather
than a benefit. However that wont be an issue because you are going to
install plenty of RAM, right?

At the end of the day there are several things that need to be considered
to
quantify how you can best configure your machine. Example uses, equipment
installed, CPU, RAM, PSU, number/type/size of HDD's.

Perhaps some of the considerations have already been made and that was the
reason you were researching this in the first place.

--

Gazwad

Freelance scientist and people tester.
Guardian: alt.os.windows-xp
Moderator: alt.warez.uk

http://angry.at/gazwad
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I read the article by MS and they are recommending NTFS...
They do not recommend a combination of or sole use of FAT32

However they do not mention multiple partitions or
segregation of the operating system from data files.

Just as an example I have one hard drive (plan to buy a
second sometime) and it is all NTFS...
C:\ has W XP Pro and some applications
D:\ is a smaller partition and used primarily for the
pagefile. I do have a small pagefile on C:\.
E:\ has My Documents and other data such as Downloads
(folder)
F:\ is used for alternate programs
G:\ will be used for games and trial programs

I have pointed storage files for email to E:\

Works fine, is stable...


"Dan DeStefano" ddestefanoATwinmarcompaniesDOTcom wrote in
message ...
| gazwad,
|
| if you consider what you are writing help, then please do
not post anymore.
| we are all here to help each other and this is made much
more pleasant and
| easy if someone does not have to be subjected to immature
name-calling.
|
| formatting your machine with a single partition is, in
fact, not
| "brain-dead," it is actually the preferred method in
windows xp. this is
| true, otherwise ms would not suggest doing just this, as
they do in several
| kb articles, here is one:
|
http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/tech/...reinstall.asp.
| plus, the more partitions on your machine, the more you
reduce your usable
| storage capacity as each partition will need to claim some
free space for
| management, journaling, etc; and the more partitions, the
more overhead you
| place on file system management. this is made worse by
xp's file placement
| optimization, because it will have to worry about
optimizing file placement
| on several partitions, instead of just one.
| additionally, the more partitions you have, the more
complex your
| installation becomes, especially for the novice user.
| finally, the type of organization you claim to need
separate partitions for
| can be accomplished via the use of folders, with minimal
drawbacks.
|
| in conclusion, next time, if you dont have anything nice
to say...
|
|
| Dan DeStefano
|SNIP

I read the article by MS and they are recommending NTFS...
They do not recommend a combination of or sole use of FAT32

However they do not mention multiple partitions or
segregation of the operating system from data files.

Just as an example I have one hard drive (plan to buy a
second sometime) and it is all NTFS...
C:\ has W XP Pro and some applications
D:\ is a smaller partition and used primarily for the
pagefile. I do have a small pagefile on C:\.
E:\ has My Documents and other data such as Downloads
(folder)
F:\ is used for alternate programs
G:\ will be used for games and trial programs

I have pointed storage files for email to E:\

Works fine, is stable...


"Dan DeStefano" ddestefanoATwinmarcompaniesDOTcom wrote in
message ...
| gazwad,
|
| if you consider what you are writing help, then please do
not post anymore.
| we are all here to help each other and this is made much
more pleasant and
| easy if someone does not have to be subjected to immature
name-calling.
|
| formatting your machine with a single partition is, in
fact, not
| "brain-dead," it is actually the preferred method in
windows xp. this is
| true, otherwise ms would not suggest doing just this, as
they do in several
| kb articles, here is one:
|
http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/tech/...reinstall.asp.
| plus, the more partitions on your machine, the more you
reduce your usable
| storage capacity as each partition will need to claim some
free space for
| management, journaling, etc; and the more partitions, the
more overhead you
| place on file system management. this is made worse by
xp's file placement
| optimization, because it will have to worry about
optimizing file placement
| on several partitions, instead of just one.
| additionally, the more partitions you have, the more
complex your
| installation becomes, especially for the novice user.
| finally, the type of organization you claim to need
separate partitions for
| can be accomplished via the use of folders, with minimal
drawbacks.
|
| in conclusion, next time, if you dont have anything nice
to say...
|
|
| Dan DeStefano
|SNIP

Dan DeStefano asked wistfully...

|| gazwad,
||
|| if you consider what you are writing help, then please do not post
|| anymore. we are all here to help each other and this is made much
|| more pleasant and easy if someone does not have to be subjected to
|| immature name-calling.
||
|| formatting your machine with a single partition is, in fact, not
|| "brain-dead," it is actually the preferred method in windows xp.
|| this is true, otherwise ms would not suggest doing just this, as
|| they do in several kb articles, here is one:
|| http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/tech/...reinstall.asp.
|| plus, the more partitions on your machine, the more you reduce your
|| usable storage capacity as each partition will need to claim some
|| free space for management, journaling, etc; and the more partitions,
|| the more overhead you place on file system management. this is made
|| worse by xp's file placement optimization, because it will have to
|| worry about optimizing file placement on several partitions, instead
|| of just one.
|| additionally, the more partitions you have, the more complex your
|| installation becomes, especially for the novice user.
|| finally, the type of organization you claim to need separate
|| partitions for can be accomplished via the use of folders, with
|| minimal drawbacks.
||
|| in conclusion, next time, if you dont have anything nice to say...
||

Piffle, brain-dead by your own admission you are also a top-posting waste of
skin and air.

I suggest you pull your head out of your M$ arse and look at how things are
done in the real world.

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Gazwad

Freelance scientist and people tester.
Guardian: alt.os.windows-xp
Moderator: alt.warez.uk

http://angry.at/gazwad
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Dan DeStefano asked wistfully...

|| gazwad,
||
|| if you consider what you are writing help, then please do not post
|| anymore. we are all here to help each other and this is made much
|| more pleasant and easy if someone does not have to be subjected to
|| immature name-calling.
||
|| formatting your machine with a single partition is, in fact, not
|| "brain-dead," it is actually the preferred method in windows xp.
|| this is true, otherwise ms would not suggest doing just this, as
|| they do in several kb articles, here is one:
|| http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/tech/...reinstall.asp.
|| plus, the more partitions on your machine, the more you reduce your
|| usable storage capacity as each partition will need to claim some
|| free space for management, journaling, etc; and the more partitions,
|| the more overhead you place on file system management. this is made
|| worse by xp's file placement optimization, because it will have to
|| worry about optimizing file placement on several partitions, instead
|| of just one.
|| additionally, the more partitions you have, the more complex your
|| installation becomes, especially for the novice user.
|| finally, the type of organization you claim to need separate
|| partitions for can be accomplished via the use of folders, with
|| minimal drawbacks.
||
|| in conclusion, next time, if you dont have anything nice to say...
||

Piffle, brain-dead by your own admission you are also a top-posting waste of
skin and air.

I suggest you pull your head out of your M$ arse and look at how things are
done in the real world.

--

Gazwad

Freelance scientist and people tester.
Guardian: alt.os.windows-xp
Moderator: alt.warez.uk

http://angry.at/gazwad
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What are you talking about. What purpose does installing apps (programs) on
another partition serve? Like I said, data files on another partition is
good, but why would you install programs on another partition?


"Gazwad" Dont Be So FarKing WeeTarDid wrote in message
...
purplehaz03 asked wistfully...

|| IMHO -- putting programs on another partition serves no purpose
|| really

OK, who left the door open?

--

Gazwad

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Guardian: alt.os.windows-xp
Moderator: alt.warez.uk

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What are you talking about. What purpose does installing apps (programs) on
another partition serve? Like I said, data files on another partition is
good, but why would you install programs on another partition?


"Gazwad" Dont Be So FarKing WeeTarDid wrote in message
...
purplehaz03 asked wistfully...

|| IMHO -- putting programs on another partition serves no purpose
|| really

OK, who left the door open?

--

Gazwad

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Guardian: alt.os.windows-xp
Moderator: alt.warez.uk

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Wrong...........


"Mhzjunkie" wrote in message
...

He's probably an MVP.

--
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Programmer: alt.os.windows-xp
1 PRINT "Windows XP ERROR"
GOTO 1
END

Wrong...........


"Mhzjunkie" wrote in message
...

He's probably an MVP.

--
Mhzjunkie

Programmer: alt.os.windows-xp
1 PRINT "Windows XP ERROR"
GOTO 1
END

purplehaz03 asked wistfully...

|| What are you talking about. What purpose does installing apps
|| (programs) on another partition serve? Like I said, data files on
|| another partition is good, but why would you install programs on
|| another partition?

Why not?

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Gazwad

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Guardian: alt.os.windows-xp
Moderator: alt.warez.uk

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purplehaz03 asked wistfully...

|| What are you talking about. What purpose does installing apps
|| (programs) on another partition serve? Like I said, data files on
|| another partition is good, but why would you install programs on
|| another partition?

Why not?

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Gazwad

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Moderator: alt.warez.uk

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