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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote: I do not nor ever plan to own a cell phone. I have no need nor desire. Closest "free" wi-fi hotspot for me is larger town which is almost an hour away. you're the lone exception, and an hour away is not far at all. https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/19/...ifi-distance-r ecord-237-miles/ WiFi's flame burns on in Latin America, however, where researcher Ermanno Pietrosemoli has managed to shoot an 802.11 signal 382 kilometers (237 miles) between two mountains in the Venezuelan Andes He certainly is NOT the lone exception, Myself, My son and at least two friends do not own and will probably never buy a cell phone. meanwhile, more than 2 *billion* smartphones are in use. |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
On 2/11/19 6:11 PM, pjp wrote:
In article , lid says... On 2/11/19 5:15 PM, Mike wrote: LinuxÂ*hasÂ*notÂ*offeredÂ*aÂ*viableÂ*alternativeÂ* forÂ*theÂ*desktop. Actually Linux Desktop are a wonderful substitute from Windows. I run my shop on Fedora Xfce and am tickled with it. What keep folks away is that Linux does not have but about 5% of the application base as Windows, if that. I have always felt if Linux had games equal to Windows would do it. There is always Wine, but it is not for the faint of heart. |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne wrote: I do not nor ever plan to own a cell phone. I have no need nor desire. Closest "free" wi-fi hotspot for me is larger town which is almost an hour away. you're the lone exception, and an hour away is not far at all. https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/19/...ifi-distance-r ecord-237-miles/ WiFi's flame burns on in Latin America, however, where researcher Ermanno Pietrosemoli has managed to shoot an 802.11 signal 382 kilometers (237 miles) between two mountains in the Venezuelan Andes He certainly is NOT the lone exception, Myself, My son and at least two friends do not own and will probably never buy a cell phone. meanwhile, more than 2 *billion* smartphones are in use. In areas where the infrastructure is different and there are fewer choices. Just recently, two Indian brothers got into a price war on telecommunications services, until one of the brothers declared bankruptcy. And that's a place you'd want that cell of yours. That kind of price war isn't coming here any time soon. I don't own a cellphone/smartphone either. I do use VOIP, because it's cheaper than the $55 per month they expect here for a landline. Paul |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
T wrote:
On 2/11/19 6:11 PM, pjp wrote: In article , lid says... On 2/11/19 5:15 PM, Mike wrote: Linux has not offered a viable alternative for the desktop. Actually Linux Desktop are a wonderful substitute from Windows. I run my shop on Fedora Xfce and am tickled with it. What keep folks away is that Linux does not have but about 5% of the application base as Windows, if that. I have always felt if Linux had games equal to Windows would do it. There is always Wine, but it is not for the faint of heart. So WINE ("Wine Is Not an Emulator") spits out a few warnings. What's not to like ? Since the executables don't have access to the physical layer on disk drives, commercial software attempting to write license patterns in places they shouldn't, are blocked. It's the same for Bash shell in Windows 10. It's denied the usage of /dev, which limits things you can do with it. That's the price you pay for compatibility layers. They have to be made a tiny bit hack-resistant. WINE access ~/.wine/Drive_C/ or similar, and your C drive is underneath that point. There is a mechanism to fake a registry. There is a copy of Notepad and possibly Regedit for your amusement. Bash shell accesses your C drive as /mnt/c and your Windows home would be /mnt/c/users/username. Attempts from Win10 Bash shell, to access /dev/sda will fail. Paul |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
Rene Lamontagne wrote in news:gceptmFsntaU1
@mid.individual.net: On 02/11/2019 8:26 PM, nospam wrote: In article , pjp wrote: I do not nor ever plan to own a cell phone. I have no need nor desire. Closest "free" wi-fi hotspot for me is larger town which is almost an hour away. you're the lone exception, and an hour away is not far at all. https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/19/...-set-new-wifi- distance-r ecord-237-miles/ WiFi's flame burns on in Latin America, however, where researcher Ermanno Pietrosemoli has managed to shoot an 802.11 signal 382 kilometers (237 miles) between two mountains in the Venezuelan Andes He certainly is NOT the lone exception, Myself, My son and at least two friends do not own and will probably never buy a cell phone. Rene My cell phone is a Tracfone with a pay as you go setup. I hardly ever use it myself, except when my son calls, or I am calling for the taxi. I have an adroid tablet that is always with me that I use as a super DayTimer, wifi only. Works for me. |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
On 02/11/2019 8:45 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne wrote: I do not nor ever plan to own a cell phone. I have no need nor desire. Closest "free" wi-fi hotspot for me is larger town which is almost an hour away. you're the lone exception, and an hour away is not far at all. https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/19/...ifi-distance-r ecord-237-miles/ WiFi's flame burns on in Latin America, however, where researcher Ermanno Pietrosemoli has managed to shoot an 802.11 signal 382 kilometers (237 miles) between two mountains in the Venezuelan Andes He certainly is NOT the lone exception, Myself, My son and at least two friends do not own and will probably never buy a cell phone. meanwhile, more than 2 *billion* smartphones are in use. That brings up a great experience I just had (not). 1. About four days ago I went to a doctors appointment and Clearly printed on 2 large signs "please turn off cellphones when entering this office", Guess what? I counted 5 people texting or talking on their cell phones. 2. From there I had to go to the hospital for some tests, so after those were done I decided to go to their cafeteria and have lunch, as I was sitting there having lunch I see a young lady at the microwave oven banks put there for Staff and visitors to warm up lunches brought from home, She was trying to set up 2 microwave ovens to heat 2 different dishes while at the same time trying to hold and talk on her cellphone with her none existent 3rd hand and ended up spilling one dish as she tried holding the phone between her shoulder and ear. 3. As if that wasn't enough, on the way home I stopped at Safeway to pick up a few grocery's, And going down one Aisle found it rather blocked by 32 ladies standing in the middle with not enough room for me to pass, I said excuse me could I pass through here twice before they moved, they where oblivious of their surroundings, I carried on with my shopping and a couple aisles further another lady walked full tilt into me texting on her phone as I was standing still looking for an item. And you wonder why I don't own or use a cursed cellphone and be lumped in with all these Idiots? Not a chance in Hell. Rene |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
On 02/11/2019 9:06 PM, T wrote:
On 2/11/19 6:11 PM, pjp wrote: In article , lid says... On 2/11/19 5:15 PM, Mike wrote: LinuxÂ*hasÂ*notÂ*offeredÂ*aÂ*viableÂ*alternativeÂ* forÂ*theÂ*desktop. Actually Linux Desktop are a wonderful substitute from Windows. I run my shop on Fedora Xfce and am tickled with it. What keep folks away is that Linux does not have but about 5% of the application base as Windows, if that. I have always felt if Linux had games equal to Windows would do it. There is always Wine, but it is not for the faint of heart. Wine is for drinking Cake are square PI is round. :-) Rene |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
On 02/11/2019 10:15 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 02/11/2019 8:45 PM, nospam wrote: In article , Rene Lamontagne wrote: I do not nor ever plan to own a cell phone. I have no need nor desire. Closest "free" wi-fi hotspot for me is larger town which is almost an hour away. you're the lone exception, and an hour away is not far at all. https://www.engadget.com/2007/06/19/...ifi-distance-r ecord-237-miles/ Â*Â*Â* WiFi's flame burns on in Latin America, however, where researcher Â*Â*Â* Ermanno Pietrosemoli has managed to shoot an 802.11 signal 382 Â*Â*Â* kilometers (237 miles) between two mountains in the Venezuelan Andes He certainly is NOT the lone exception, Myself, My son and at least two friends do not own and will probably never buy a cell phone. meanwhile, more than 2 *billion* smartphones are in use. That brings up a great experience I just had (not). Â*1. About four days ago I went to a doctors appointment and Clearly printed on 2 large signs "please turn off cellphones when entering this office", Guess what? I counted 5 people texting or talking on their cell phones. Â*2. From there I had to go to the hospital for some tests, so after those were done I decided to go to their cafeteria and have lunch, as I was sitting there having lunch I see a young lady at the microwave oven banks put there for Staff and visitors to warm up lunches brought from home, She was trying to set up 2 microwave ovens to heat 2 different dishes while at the same time trying to hold and talk on her cellphone with her none existent 3rd hand and ended up spilling one dish as she tried holding the phone between her shoulder and ear. Â*3. As if that wasn't enough, on the way home I stopped at Safeway to pick up a few grocery's, And going down one Aisle found it rather blocked by 32 ladies standing in the middle with not enough room for me to pass, I said excuse me could I pass through here twice before they moved, they where oblivious of their surroundings, I carried on with my shopping and a couple aisles further another lady walked full tilt into me texting on her phone as I was standing still looking for an item. And you wonder why I don't own or use a cursed cellphone and be lumped in with all these Idiots? Not a chance in Hell. Rene Error- 2 ladies Not 32... Big fingers = poor typing Rene |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote: That brings up a great experience I just had (not). 1. About four days ago I went to a doctors appointment and Clearly printed on 2 large signs "please turn off cellphones when entering this office", Guess what? I counted 5 people texting or talking on their cell phones. 2. From there I had to go to the hospital for some tests, so after those were done I decided to go to their cafeteria and have lunch, as I was sitting there having lunch I see a young lady at the microwave oven banks put there for Staff and visitors to warm up lunches brought from home, She was trying to set up 2 microwave ovens to heat 2 different dishes while at the same time trying to hold and talk on her cellphone with her none existent 3rd hand and ended up spilling one dish as she tried holding the phone between her shoulder and ear. 3. As if that wasn't enough, on the way home I stopped at Safeway to pick up a few grocery's, And going down one Aisle found it rather blocked by 32 ladies standing in the middle with not enough room for me to pass, I said excuse me could I pass through here twice before they moved, they where oblivious of their surroundings, I carried on with my shopping and a couple aisles further another lady walked full tilt into me texting on her phone as I was standing still looking for an item. And you wonder why I don't own or use a cursed cellphone and be lumped in with all these Idiots? just because a few people are oblivious to their surroundings doesn't mean everyone is. |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
On 12/02/2019 03.08, pjp wrote:
And my take is "the product clearly had defects when it was "sold" to me otherwise there'd be no need for fixes" therefore they are obligated to fix any and all problems for "eternity". If not then they should be legally obligated to release the source code to public domain so others can instead. It was sold "as is". -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
On 02/11/2019 10:29 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne wrote: That brings up a great experience I just had (not). 1. About four days ago I went to a doctors appointment and Clearly printed on 2 large signs "please turn off cellphones when entering this office", Guess what? I counted 5 people texting or talking on their cell phones. 2. From there I had to go to the hospital for some tests, so after those were done I decided to go to their cafeteria and have lunch, as I was sitting there having lunch I see a young lady at the microwave oven banks put there for Staff and visitors to warm up lunches brought from home, She was trying to set up 2 microwave ovens to heat 2 different dishes while at the same time trying to hold and talk on her cellphone with her none existent 3rd hand and ended up spilling one dish as she tried holding the phone between her shoulder and ear. 3. As if that wasn't enough, on the way home I stopped at Safeway to pick up a few grocery's, And going down one Aisle found it rather blocked by 32 ladies standing in the middle with not enough room for me to pass, I said excuse me could I pass through here twice before they moved, they where oblivious of their surroundings, I carried on with my shopping and a couple aisles further another lady walked full tilt into me texting on her phone as I was standing still looking for an item. And you wonder why I don't own or use a cursed cellphone and be lumped in with all these Idiots? just because a few people are oblivious to their surroundings doesn't mean everyone is. Didn't say "all" 8 in one day is a helluva lot more than a few |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote: That brings up a great experience I just had (not). 1. About four days ago I went to a doctors appointment and Clearly printed on 2 large signs "please turn off cellphones when entering this office", Guess what? I counted 5 people texting or talking on their cell phones. 2. From there I had to go to the hospital for some tests, so after those were done I decided to go to their cafeteria and have lunch, as I was sitting there having lunch I see a young lady at the microwave oven banks put there for Staff and visitors to warm up lunches brought from home, She was trying to set up 2 microwave ovens to heat 2 different dishes while at the same time trying to hold and talk on her cellphone with her none existent 3rd hand and ended up spilling one dish as she tried holding the phone between her shoulder and ear. 3. As if that wasn't enough, on the way home I stopped at Safeway to pick up a few grocery's, And going down one Aisle found it rather blocked by 32 ladies standing in the middle with not enough room for me to pass, I said excuse me could I pass through here twice before they moved, they where oblivious of their surroundings, I carried on with my shopping and a couple aisles further another lady walked full tilt into me texting on her phone as I was standing still looking for an item. And you wonder why I don't own or use a cursed cellphone and be lumped in with all these Idiots? just because a few people are oblivious to their surroundings doesn't mean everyone is. Didn't say "all" 8 in one day is a helluva lot more than a few out of 2 billion who use smartphones, no, and you can't extrapolate from just one day either. how many days did nothing happen? how many people were using phones and you didn't even notice? |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 22:19:49 -0500, Paul wrote:
I don't own a cellphone/smartphone either. I do use VOIP, because it's cheaper than the $55 per month they expect here for a landline. $55...yikes, someone must be very proud of their telco offering. As for VoIP being cheaper, I assume you mean free (after acquiring a VoIP adapter). Google Voice is still free and works pretty well, although individual calls are limited to 3 hours. |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
On 2/11/2019 5:49 PM, T wrote:
On 2/11/19 5:15 PM, Mike wrote: LinuxÂ*hasÂ*notÂ*offeredÂ*aÂ*viableÂ*alternativeÂ* forÂ*theÂ*desktop. Actually Linux Desktop are a wonderful substitute from Windows. I run my shop on Fedora Xfce and am tickled with it. What keep folks away is that Linux does not have but about 5% of the application base as Windows, if that. Your second paragraph contradicts your first paragraph. Linux is a perfect solution for a closed/limited appliance like your shop. The missing 95% turns off people with general purpose systems. Most people are not looking for a hobby fixing linux issues. They want to get right on to posting pictures of their cat. It takes only one missing piece to sour the deal. Linux users are quick to denigrate people with expectations different from their own. Linux would have far better market penetration if they'd catered to general users starting 20 years ago. |
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Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
In article , Char Jackson
wrote: I don't own a cellphone/smartphone either. I do use VOIP, because it's cheaper than the $55 per month they expect here for a landline. $55...yikes, someone must be very proud of their telco offering. As for VoIP being cheaper, I assume you mean free (after acquiring a VoIP adapter). usually, voip-voip calls are free, while calls to/from ptsn are not. Google Voice is still free and works pretty well, although individual calls are limited to 3 hours. it's not voip, although there are ways to use it as such. |
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