Build Number?

On 2015-12-18, . . .winston wrote:
. . .winston wrote on 12/17/2015 2:18 AM:
Cy Burnot wrote on 12/16/2015 2:27 AM:
Cy Burnot wrote on 12/16/2015 1:49 AM:
. . .winston wrote on 12/15/2015 8:38 PM:

If you've been on 10240 since Nov 12, then you should already have
received at least one of these cumulative updates - 10586.3, 10586.10,
10586.14, 10586.17 - before 10586.29 the latest available via Windows
Update.

It's doing an update right this minute.


10586.29 is installed.


You're current.


Not any more 10586.36 is current


Still on 10240 & only updates were for defender Win 10 Pro.
So where are the updates for me to do update manually. My settings
were for "auto update" but looks like it doesn't work.

lew wrote:
On 2015-12-18, . . .winston wrote:
. . .winston wrote on 12/17/2015 2:18 AM:
Cy Burnot wrote on 12/16/2015 2:27 AM:
Cy Burnot wrote on 12/16/2015 1:49 AM:
. . .winston wrote on 12/15/2015 8:38 PM:
If you've been on 10240 since Nov 12, then you should already have
received at least one of these cumulative updates - 10586.3, 10586.10,
10586.14, 10586.17 - before 10586.29 the latest available via Windows
Update.
It's doing an update right this minute.

10586.29 is installed.

You're current.

Not any more 10586.36 is current


Still on 10240 & only updates were for defender Win 10 Pro.
So where are the updates for me to do update manually. My settings
were for "auto update" but looks like it doesn't work.

This will bypass Windows Update, and after 10586 is installed,
Windows Update will start afresh. So you get Windows Update
repair for free.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO

That particular web page "sniffs" the OS which is calling.
You should run that from your Win10 PC using Win10, as
then all the options should be visible. I tried the above
page in WinXP, and the web page is "sparse". If I run it
from a Windows 7 VM, it offers MediaCreationTool as an
option at the bottom of the web page. Try that, have MediaCreationTool
do the 3.5GB download, and you can have it prepare the
media of your choice. I normally like .iso files I
can use, as I can make a DVD of that, or using the
MicrosoftStore USB stick converter, I can put
that DVD on a USB stick later.

MediaCreationTool isn't particularly re-entrant, so
only expect to be able to make one piece of media
per try. If you run it a second time, there is
every danger it will delete the contents of
C:\$WINDOWS.~WS and start again. Which is
quite annoying.

If you want it, the MicrosoftStore utility should be
available from the archive. I use it for putting
Win7/Win8/Win10 ISO on USB key. As they have similar
constructions and should work.

http://web.archive.org/web/201201022...usbdvd_dwnTool

http://web.archive.org/web/201110052...B-DVD-tool.exe

The file is "Windows7-USB-DVD-Download-Tool.exe" and
I can go from .iso OS file to USB key with it. I use
my 8GB USB key for this (lots of room).

*******

In this case, all you really need, is to execute
the setup.exe off the DVD, to kick off an Upgrade
install to 10586 from 10240.

In theory, you could even go to Disk Management, and
"mount" the ISO file there, and then run the setup.exe
off the virtual DVD image you would see by doing that.
I haven't tested that, to see if the installer
still wants to see/refer to the DVD while finishing
the install.

*******

The key to safe computing, is backups. Make a backup
*right now* of your good working system. Then you
can run off and get yourself into trouble
with the MediaCreationTool, knowing you can
always restore from backup if problems occur.

Have fun,
Paul

On 2015-12-18, Paul wrote:
lew wrote:
On 2015-12-18, . . .winston wrote:
. . .winston wrote on 12/17/2015 2:18 AM:
Cy Burnot wrote on 12/16/2015 2:27 AM:
Cy Burnot wrote on 12/16/2015 1:49 AM:
. . .winston wrote on 12/15/2015 8:38 PM:
If you've been on 10240 since Nov 12, then you should already have
received at least one of these cumulative updates - 10586.3, 10586.10,
10586.14, 10586.17 - before 10586.29 the latest available via Windows
Update.
It's doing an update right this minute.

10586.29 is installed.

You're current.

Not any more 10586.36 is current


Still on 10240 & only updates were for defender Win 10 Pro.
So where are the updates for me to do update manually. My settings
were for "auto update" but looks like it doesn't work.

This will bypass Windows Update, and after 10586 is installed,
Windows Update will start afresh. So you get Windows Update
repair for free.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO

That particular web page "sniffs" the OS which is calling.
You should run that from your Win10 PC using Win10, as
then all the options should be visible. I tried the above
page in WinXP, and the web page is "sparse". If I run it
from a Windows 7 VM, it offers MediaCreationTool as an
option at the bottom of the web page. Try that, have MediaCreationTool
do the 3.5GB download, and you can have it prepare the
media of your choice. I normally like .iso files I
can use, as I can make a DVD of that, or using the
MicrosoftStore USB stick converter, I can put
that DVD on a USB stick later.

MediaCreationTool isn't particularly re-entrant, so
only expect to be able to make one piece of media
per try. If you run it a second time, there is
every danger it will delete the contents of
C:\$WINDOWS.~WS and start again. Which is
quite annoying.

If you want it, the MicrosoftStore utility should be
available from the archive. I use it for putting
Win7/Win8/Win10 ISO on USB key. As they have similar
constructions and should work.

http://web.archive.org/web/201201022...usbdvd_dwnTool

http://web.archive.org/web/201110052...B-DVD-tool.exe

The file is "Windows7-USB-DVD-Download-Tool.exe" and
I can go from .iso OS file to USB key with it. I use
my 8GB USB key for this (lots of room).

*******

In this case, all you really need, is to execute
the setup.exe off the DVD, to kick off an Upgrade
install to 10586 from 10240.

In theory, you could even go to Disk Management, and
"mount" the ISO file there, and then run the setup.exe
off the virtual DVD image you would see by doing that.
I haven't tested that, to see if the installer
still wants to see/refer to the DVD while finishing
the install.

*******

The key to safe computing, is backups. Make a backup
*right now* of your good working system. Then you
can run off and get yourself into trouble
with the MediaCreationTool, knowing you can
always restore from backup if problems occur.

Have fun,
Paul

Thanks but it looks likd m$ changed the url so that the "windows10iso"
doesn't exist as it points to just windows10 where it has info for
"upgrading" to windows 10 from win7 or win8.x. Unless the 10586
is really a full install even with win10 10240 ver so that it isn't a
"real" update.

.winston wrote:

Not any more 10586.36 is current

Has the KB3116869 any relevance to this 10586.x version?
I'm having a PITA installing that KB. I'm not sure the
cleanmgr.exe could help?

Dicky wrote:
Current ver 1511, build 11082.1000


I see that coming in as an upgrade
on the Win10 Insider setup right now...

Another long wait.

Paul

lew wrote:


Thanks. Did the mediacreation bit & then created a usb version;
went back & did the "upgrade now" & the 1511, 10586.36 got
installed/updated. Windows 10 is supposed to be "user friendly"
& auto update as per the claim in the settings & other scams.

And some people still think driverless cars are ready for prime
time. Wonder if driverless semi-trucks/cars are able to
stop at chain control stations & self-install the tire chains needed
to the correct tires (front drive or rear drive); then able to
recognize tire chains not needed any longer & remove the tire
chains.

I think driverless cars will be "sunny day" material for a while.

Your new car will come with eight wheels. Four wheels with chains,
four wheels without. The car will lower the correct set of wheels
so they touch the road, and take the mountain pass.

Paul

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:18:04 -0500, Paul wrote:

MediaCreationTool isn't particularly re-entrant, so
only expect to be able to make one piece of media
per try. If you run it a second time, there is
every danger it will delete the contents of
C:\$WINDOWS.~WS and start again. Which is
quite annoying.

I would think it would be much faster and easier to simply copy the ISO
rather than try to create a second one. It wouldn't have occurred to me to
use MCT to create a second ISO.

Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:18:04 -0500, Paul wrote:

MediaCreationTool isn't particularly re-entrant, so
only expect to be able to make one piece of media
per try. If you run it a second time, there is
every danger it will delete the contents of
C:\$WINDOWS.~WS and start again. Which is
quite annoying.

I would think it would be much faster and easier to simply copy the ISO
rather than try to create a second one. It wouldn't have occurred to me to
use MCT to create a second ISO.


The idea would be a visit to create an ISO,
a second visit to fill up a USB key. For
that machine that doesn't have an optical
drive or whatever. Say I want to create two medias
to cover all the devices in the house.

I know how to solve the problem with the Windows 7
ISO to USB key tool, so there is a workaround (I
point people to archive.org, since the original
tool page was removed). My comment is just about
"designing a tool with the user in mind". Like,
how about a control which says "Would you like to
start a fresh download, deleting the previous one,
or would you like to use the current download which
is 10586.xyz ?".

I'm sure even a budding high school student
programmer could think of these things.
Microsoft professionals, not so much apparently.

Again, previous Microsoft efforts worked better.
They seem to get more daft as time passes.

Paul