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Dell 8200 HD problems:
Well I don't know any way to prove myself to you.
I have not given anything out recently except my Yahoo email. Other than that I have not given any personal information away that would cause this. I tried Thunderbird and this is what it gave me: http://i66.tinypic.com/34qscqe.jpg I assume you want to get this resolved first before we talk further on the 8200. Should I just try the green download button instead? Thoughts/Suggestions? Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
Well I don't know any way to prove myself to you. I have not given anything out recently except my Yahoo email. Other than that I have not given any personal information away that would cause this. I tried Thunderbird and this is what it gave me: http://i66.tinypic.com/34qscqe.jpg I assume you want to get this resolved first before we talk further on the 8200. Should I just try the green download button instead? Thoughts/Suggestions? Robert So are you saying that this link gave you that result ? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/ When I test that link right now, it looks like the mozilla server is down. All attempts to get there, lead to an error. Try again in a couple hours, which may at least give time for a news article to appear explaining why it isn't available. Paul |
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So are you saying that this link gave you that result ? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/ Yes, that is what I'm saying. Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
So are you saying that this link gave you that result ? https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/ Yes, that is what I'm saying. Robert OK, did you click on the Advanced button ? It will report the reason for the warning, whether it's a SHA-2 problem (signature of certificate) or whatever. The mozilla.org site is back in operation again. Paul |
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Mark Twain wrote:
I tried it again and clicked the advanced tab: http://i63.tinypic.com/8z1yc7.jpg Robert What a weird freaking day, eh ? You are being offered 38.6.0, whereas my WinXP virtual machine was offered 38.5.0 under equal circumstances. My download machine had a copy of Firefox 44.0.2 as the browser doing the asking. If you cannot get the "Save" button to work, you can get the download directly. Hopefully, this won't use their broken content distribution network. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/thun...p%2038.6.0.exe The error message in your picture, shows they have two content distribution networks (CDNs). They use Akamai for some downloads, they use their own-hosted CDN for other downloads. The downloads I'm getting here in Canada, come from neither. In any case, the "releases.mozilla.org" server is an alternative download source, that they don't really want us using. Because it's not a CDN, and isn't intended for bulk downloading. Go right ahead and use it, since their USA networking setup seems to be (partially) busted. And I had yet more "server not found" errors, and then a few seconds later, it reported in. Presumably this is flaky DNS on my end or something. It took several hours to reappear here, when it disappeared earlier on. I even dropped my DHCP lease by rebooting my networking boxes, and it still didn't help. Sometimes, it really is a DNS issue on some ADSL equipment here, for which dropping the lease is required to pick up new configuration info. Paul |
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I've had a month of Sunday here,..
Ok, I clicked the save button and installed Thunderbird on the 8500 but then you started talking about a command in XP and you lost me and why would anything be in Thunderbird I didn't put there? http://i64.tinypic.com/sq5und.jpg We still have the problem of the 8200 which cannot connect fully. Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
I've had a month of Sunday here,.. Ok, I clicked the save button and installed Thunderbird on the 8500 but then you started talking about a command in XP and you lost me and why would anything be in Thunderbird I didn't put there? http://i64.tinypic.com/sq5und.jpg We still have the problem of the 8200 which cannot connect fully. Robert Sorry, I lost context there. You can run Thunderbird in either WinXP (8200) or Win7 (8500). The purposes of using Thunderbird and AIOE free news server, is so you're not dependent on a (compromised) Google account. If all your attempts to post through Google Groups were deleted, or you magically discovered your Google Groups password no longer worked, you could switch to Thunderbird and AIOE to make connections with the outside world. That's all this was intended for. Because I couldn't tell what was going on at your end. I can't tell the difference between a "Google Groups problem" and a "your account is compromised" problem. Paul |
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understood, but I tried the command you gave
me and posted the screenshot so I must have done something wrong so I couldn't follow your instructions from then on. Robert |
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btw, in passing, I was sent a letter from Verizon
stating they will no longer be my provider but now Frontier Communications Corporation (Frontier) will be my new service provider. Do you know anything about them? http://west.frontier.com/internet?kb...6O0BoCiU7w_wcB I pay Verizon 71.13 now for Internet and a regular old fashion phone no cell phone. The change is suppose to happen in March and they will supposedly convert my service at no cost to me but NOT wireless and my local phone number will not change. Luckily, I don't use wireless so I should be ok but I'm not sure which options I should choose or these bundles which seems to me that your locked in after they raise the price after 2 years. It seems all the providers all the same and charge the earth for basic service (Internet/plug in phone) Thoughts/Suggestions? Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
btw, in passing, I was sent a letter from Verizon stating they will no longer be my provider but now Frontier Communications Corporation (Frontier) will be my new service provider. Do you know anything about them? http://west.frontier.com/internet?kb...6O0BoCiU7w_wcB I pay Verizon 71.13 now for Internet and a regular old fashion phone no cell phone. The change is suppose to happen in March and they will supposedly convert my service at no cost to me but NOT wireless and my local phone number will not change. Luckily, I don't use wireless so I should be ok but I'm not sure which options I should choose or these bundles which seems to me that your locked in after they raise the price after 2 years. It seems all the providers all the same and charge the earth for basic service (Internet/plug in phone) Thoughts/Suggestions? Robert I've gone through a similar conversion process here, but it was based on price, not a change of ownership. My plug-in phone used to cost $55 CDN. Always had dial tone. POTS has a working 911 system (they know where I am). The copper network was properly maintained. Phone company threatened to put up the price. I moved to VOIP. Total cost is $15 a month, and $0.03 per minute LD fee. So that is $40 CDN saved a month right there. Installation and equipment cost $178, so that will add to the payback time. VOIP is not five-nines reliable. If the ADSL is out, there is no VOIP. I would have to go to the nearest pay phone, to call out. My VOIP does not have e911. They don't necessarily know where I am. Many other VOIP providers will have e911 for location purposes. Of the $15 charge, $10 is for the service and $5 is a "dry line" fee to the phone company. That's because ADSL is carried over a phone line, but the phone line has no regular phone service on it. One LD call over VOIP was dropped after one hour. I had to reboot the ATA box to restore service (takes a minute or so), then call the other party again. And I got to keep my phone number. I didn't do this sooner, because years ago, I checked and my number was not portable. I would lose my phone number. That was fixed. I am *not* locked into a contract. The service is month by month. I paid a $50 activation fee, which helps cover a truck roll to set things up for something else I changed. My house now has a whole house filter for the ADSL, which was part of raising the bitrate. The price of the ADSL did not change, but my bandwidth cap was cut in half. Shop around and see if there is a reseller scheme where you live. Maybe there is a way to avoid contract intervals entirely. I have no guarantee on price, but my provider has only raised the rates once, and it was during a regulatory restructuring. So it wasn't an outright attempt to gouge the customer. The regulatory change affected their entire business model, and they were forced to guess at what their new costs would be, and make a price list to suit. There have been no price increases since then. ******* DSLReports has all sorts of info on the various providers. And, as in this example, will have info on various issues that come up when one company messes with another company's stuff. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r303...curity-upgrade Perhaps someone else in the group knows more about the options where you live. As my situation here in Canada is quite different. The phone company has the regulators here over a barrel, so at least that part of the situation is no different :-) Paul |
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I'm the same as you and pay month to month.
I don't like these bundles and contracts. If it sounds too good to be true it probably isn't. I remember when Ma Bell had sole ownership of all the telephones in the US and it was dirt cheap. Then they broke it up because of antitrust laws and look at what's in its place. I digress,.... Anyways,.. back to Thunderbird on the 8500 and how to get it going since the command I entered didn't work and can't proceed with your instructions just yet. Also need to fix the 8200 connection problem so I can get it up and running again as my backup or is it shot? If so, we had talked about buying another on eBay which seems my best option and swapping the new power supply, video card, 2.0 ports, and the DVD player so maybe if I have to do that you can write me a list of things to look for? I also want to MAX out the RAM for the 8200 so I would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction? I seem to remember reading that either the 8500 or the 8200 the RAM was made only that one year(RDRAM)? Thoughts/Suggestions? Robert, and yes this IS ME *L* |
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Mark Twain wrote:
I'm the same as you and pay month to month. I don't like these bundles and contracts. If it sounds too good to be true it probably isn't. I remember when Ma Bell had sole ownership of all the telephones in the US and it was dirt cheap. Then they broke it up because of antitrust laws and look at what's in its place. I digress,.... Anyways,.. back to Thunderbird on the 8500 and how to get it going since the command I entered didn't work and can't proceed with your instructions just yet. Also need to fix the 8200 connection problem so I can get it up and running again as my backup or is it shot? If so, we had talked about buying another on eBay which seems my best option and swapping the new power supply, video card, 2.0 ports, and the DVD player so maybe if I have to do that you can write me a list of things to look for? I also want to MAX out the RAM for the 8200 so I would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction? I seem to remember reading that either the 8500 or the 8200 the RAM was made only that one year(RDRAM)? Thoughts/Suggestions? Robert, and yes this IS ME *L* Well, this is an alternative link to the Thunderbird installer. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/thun...p%2038.6.0.exe The rules for RDRAM are neatly summarized on page 9 here. ftp://download.intel.com/design/chip...s/29069104.pdf For example, it says: 32 Direct RDRAM devices/channel for 300/400MHz RDRAM. That means, if you were using PC800 sticks, you could use 4 * 512MB RDRAM modules. That's because each of those modules would use 16 chips, two modules per channel for a total of 32 chips on the one channel. And since it says 533MHz RDRAM is limited to 24 chips per channel, you could only use 2x512 plus 2x256 on such a setup. It gives rules for the 850 and the 850E. Including mentioning PC800-40 for the 850E. So if you had an 850E, you'd know what to get. And in your list of stuff to move into a purchased 8200, you'd also want to move your boot drive. You should never trust the data contents of a strange computer, in terms of what is on its hard drive. There could be malware on there, which the previous owner could not remove. Paul |
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Yes but I don't know which to buy? Are some
better than others and should I go to Newegg and search for (2) 512MB double sided and (2) 256 Double Sided? Will this fix the 8200 or is it in your opinion too far gone and nothing can be done at this point? Yes, I forgot the HD if I end up buying another 8200 and swapping parts but will definitely include that as well. I downloaded Thunderbird with the link you provided and it worked and had several pop-up about emails and which option I wanted Thunderird used for but I closed everything until you give me instructions as your previous instructions don't seem to match up with this. Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
Yes but I don't know which to buy? Are some better than others and should I go to Newegg and search for (2) 512MB double sided and (2) 256 Double Sided? Will this fix the 8200 or is it in your opinion too far gone and nothing can be done at this point? Yes, I forgot the HD if I end up buying another 8200 and swapping parts but will definitely include that as well. I downloaded Thunderbird with the link you provided and it worked and had several pop-up about emails and which option I wanted Thunderird used for but I closed everything until you give me instructions as your previous instructions don't seem to match up with this. Robert Go back and find the article with the recipe for Thunderbird. The purpose of that recipe, was to save a few steps, by getting Thunderbird to make an entry for you. Nothing prevents you from using New Account and doing it manually. So in that sense, my recipe was a "convenience" for you, not an absolute necessity. I certainly had trouble the first time I used Thunderbird, figuring out what I was supposed to do. By using the command line, this "primes" an entry, makes an account, but still requires editing the account to put in your personal details (Username Mark Twain). You can't post until you define your identity. I can't do that from the command line. The purpose of the first two lines, is to get the Command Prompt over top of the executable. On the 8500, the path might use "Program Files (x86)" for example, so you'll need to edit these instructions slightly. Using "dir" is to make sure you found it OK. You can't run thunderbird.exe unless it can be found via the %path%. cd /d "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Thunderbird" dir *.exe --- verify thunderbird.exe is there thunderbird.exe -news news://nntp.aioe.org/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general ******* RDRAM will not be for sale on Newegg. In the year 2016, any DIMMs might be pulls from old equipment. I can't imagine there would be enough surplus chips kicking around, for Samsung to make brand new DIMMs. You will have to look at secondary sources. Perhaps Amazon will have entries, but Newegg, not so much. Ebay would be a primary source, quality unknown. And I don't have a feeling for RDRAM failure rate - I can't recollect any instance of RDRAM failure in a newsgroup posting. But then the percentage of users who ever used RDRAM, is probably relatively low. Certainly for SDRAM and DDR, the failure rate was pretty significant. I have quite a few dead DIMMs here (8+). Like the Crucial Ballistix module, where one chip "went nuts" and one entire chip spewed out nothing but garbage 0's and 1's. It made for a spectacular scrolling error log in memtest. Paul |
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