Windows 10 1809

With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809
update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809.
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Bill Bradshaw wrote:
With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809
update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809.

Yes and no. They've pulled the original release and issued a new one to
"insiders". Once it gets the ok from insiders it'll be released to the rest
of us.
https://www.computerworld.com/articl...tribution.html

On 10/16/2018 1:08 AM, Chris wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:
With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809
update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809.

Yes and no. They've pulled the original release and issued a new one to
"insiders". Once it gets the ok from insiders it'll be released to the rest
of us.

Does this apply to the Win 10 1809 ISO downloadable by non-insider users?

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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 10/16/2018 1:08 AM, Chris wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:
With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the
1809 update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809.

Yes and no. They've pulled the original release and issued a new one to
"insiders". Once it gets the ok from insiders it'll be released to the
rest
of us.

Does this apply to the Win 10 1809 ISO downloadable by non-insider users?


Insiders are auto-upgraded to whatever software Microsoft
wants them to test.

Usually, the Insider DVD (available option) is "back a release
or two", and the Insider DVD is seldom of much usage to
anyone. I would not expect a release candidate 17663_1
DVD to be just... sitting there.

And if you attempt access, it helps if you're registered
as an Insider, and attempting access using the Insider
install you're running. Otherwise, you'll be prompted for
your MSA, and with that, they can look you up and see
if you're running an Insider.

*******

We used to be able to make a DVD out of the ESD or WIM,
but with the delta-update method used now, I don't know
if anyone has perfected the means to make a DVD out of
the folder of junk. An Upgrade install now might
consist of thousands of tiny "packages".

This is the method I used to use, to save download bytes.
I would upgrade one Insider install, then make a DVD with
this, and upgrade a second Insider install with the DVD.

https://deploymentresearch.com/Resea...y-tools-needed

But that method no longer works, for the way upgrades
are made today. It was nice while it worked.

Paul

A chronic spammer...

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On 10/16/2018 1:08 AM, Chris wrote:
Bill Bradshaw bradshaw gci.net wrote:
With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809
update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809.

Yes and no. They've pulled the original release and issued a new one to
"insiders". Once it gets the ok from insiders it'll be released to the rest
of us.

Does this apply to the Win 10 1809 ISO downloadable by non-insider users?

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On 15/10/2018 18:08, Chris wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:
With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809
update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809.

Yes and no. They've pulled the original release and issued a new one to
"insiders". Once it gets the ok from insiders it'll be released to the rest
of us.
https://www.computerworld.com/articl...tribution.html

I've been on 1809 since 3/10/2018 nothing lost from drives c,d or e

critcher wrote:
On 15/10/2018 18:08, Chris wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:
With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809
update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809.

Yes and no. They've pulled the original release and issued a new one to
"insiders". Once it gets the ok from insiders it'll be released to the rest
of us.
https://www.computerworld.com/articl...tribution.html

I've been on 1809 since 3/10/2018 nothing lost from drives c,d or e


The issue only affected a small number. Primarily those using oneDrive and
Known Folder Migration.

Chris wrote:
critcher wrote:
On 15/10/2018 18:08, Chris wrote:
Bill Bradshaw wrote:
With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809
update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809.
Yes and no. They've pulled the original release and issued a new one to
"insiders". Once it gets the ok from insiders it'll be released to the rest
of us.
https://www.computerworld.com/articl...tribution.html

I've been on 1809 since 3/10/2018 nothing lost from drives c,d or e


The issue only affected a small number. Primarily those using oneDrive and
Known Folder Migration.


Most users will not be able to detect they lost something.

Which is something to consider.

The thing is, your home directory has multiple Junction Points
in it, and File Explorer refuses to traverse them and properly
count all the files underneath.

This causes a 70GB home directory here to report it had
3GB of files. If you see a report of 3GB before the update
and 3GB after the update, the "status" of the other 67GB
of files is "unknown".

Don't clap your hands together quite so quickly.

I'm still studying this stuff.

It's unbelievable hard to audit your home directory!!!

You would have to measure the size of your Documents folder,
the size of your Downloads folder, one at a time, and add
the numbers together. Something I absolutely refuse to do.
That's what a File Explorer Properties call is for...
Not for me to trudge behind it with a broom and dustpan.

*******

I tried to run hashdeep (computes MD5, SHA1, on a file tree).
It hangs when you run it against a home directory. Why ?
There are "named pipes" left in a Crypto directory located
in your home directory (these should be removed at shutdown).
These will freeze anything that tries to read from unused ones.
This means a hashdeep run can never finish, and I can't verify
the file content before the Upgrade and the file content
after the Upgrade, are the same.

I had to be content with an "ls -R" approach instead.

And I'm still working on comparing files from the more
simplified file listing.

*******

Try it with your own favorite methods, and see if you
can come up with an auditing method before I finish mine :-)
Grrr.

I bet some of you, don't know the true size of your home
dir. I didn't. I only discovered something was amiss by
accident (because I know there are about four large files
in there, and the size kept coming back with the "3GB"
number, which is wrong).

Paul

Damn, man, don't you have the brains to tell everyone
whether or not you are an "Insider"...

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On 15/10/2018 18:08, Chris wrote:
Bill Bradshaw bradshaw gci.net wrote:
With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809
update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809.

Yes and no. They've pulled the original release and issued a new one to
"insiders". Once it gets the ok from insiders it'll be released to the rest
of us.
https://www.computerworld.com/articl...tribution.html

I've been on 1809 since 3/10/2018 nothing lost from drives c,d or e

John Doe wrote:
Damn, man, don't you have the brains to tell everyone
whether or not you are an "Insider"...


You had the option, on release day, to download the DVD
for 1809 and use it. I have the 32 bit and 64 bit DVDs
and used the 64 bit one.

It's the Windows Update method which might be triggered
by your Insider participation.

But a machine here which received 1809 when I wasn't
expecting it, via Windows Update, that machine is not
associated with Insider, and neither has an MSA ever
been used on the machine. It suggests if you ever
(remotely) took part in the Insider program, any
machine in your "flock" could be picked for an update.
They have plenty of sneaky ways of associating the MSA
I used on the other machine, with the equipment in
my "flock".

If I leave a 17134 install sitting idle today, it's
safe and won't get 17763. But that could change anytime.

Paul

On 10/15/2018 12:22 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809
update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809.

It was never pushed, AFAIK. It was available to IDK participants and for
download.

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Neil wrote in news
On 10/15/2018 12:22 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the
1809 update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to
1809.

It was never pushed, AFAIK. It was available to IDK participants and
for download.


It and the cumulative update for it appeared on my PC about the same time
as the file deletion problem broke. I looked tonight, and both are gone and
I have a cumulative update for 1709, which is where I am at right now.

PS: I have to add that at one time I signed up for the insider program, but
never actually installed anything, and recently signed back out of it, so
they may still have had me shown as being an insider.

On 10/15/2018 11:14 PM, Tim wrote:
Neil wrote in news
On 10/15/2018 12:22 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the
1809 update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to
1809.

It was never pushed, AFAIK. It was available to IDK participants and
for download.


It and the cumulative update for it appeared on my PC about the same time
as the file deletion problem broke. I looked tonight, and both are gone and
I have a cumulative update for 1709, which is where I am at right now.

PS: I have to add that at one time I signed up for the insider program, but
never actually installed anything, and recently signed back out of it, so
they may still have had me shown as being an insider.

That seems a likely possibility.

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best regards,

Neil

On 10/15/18 12:24, Neil wrote:
On 10/15/2018 12:22 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the 1809
update? None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809.

It was never pushed, AFAIK.

no, just shoved up everyones ASS, as usual [without lubrication].
Forced updates *SUCK*. WORST! IDEA! EVAR! [2nd worst was putting
ADVERTISEMENT and SLURP into the OS, 3rd worst was 2D FLATSO FLUGLY, ...]

As for the windows update ****ups:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/1...ows_10_crisis/



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On 10/24/2018 2:46 AM, Big Bad Bob wrote:
On 10/15/18 12:24, Neil wrote:
On 10/15/2018 12:22 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
With all the reported problems has Microsoft stopped pushing out the
1809
update?Â* None of the computers have been updated from 1803 to 1809.

It was never pushed, AFAIK.

no, just shoved up everyones ASS, as usual [without lubrication]. Forced
updates *SUCK*.Â* WORST! IDEA! EVAR! [2nd worst was putting ADVERTISEMENT
and SLURP into the OS, 3rd worst was 2D FLATSO FLUGLY, ...]

AFAIK, it STILL hasn't been pushed. All of my Win10 machines are still
on 1803. I suspect that those running 1809 are either voluntarily or
unwittingly involved in the insider program.

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Neil