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Windows/Total Commander problems
Suddenly having problems with this both versions (Total Commander/Windows Commander) old file manager. It won't change directories. One view is set to C drive, the other to L. Selecting another drive has no effect. This never happened before. Any theories by anyone familiar with this utility? I'd hate to switch to something else. I doubt DLing another version would help. My Computer's display looks at different drives with no problems. There might be something else wrong with the computer. It is a ~10 year old Emachine. Running XP Home. TIA -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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On 22 Sep 2017 16:39:48 GMT, KenK wrote:
Suddenly having problems with this both versions (Total Commander/Windows Commander) old file manager. It won't change directories. One view is set to C drive, the other to L. Selecting another drive has no effect. This never happened before. Any theories by anyone familiar with this utility? I'd hate to switch to something else. I doubt DLing another version would help. My Computer's display looks at different drives with no problems. There might be something else wrong with the computer. It is a ~10 year old Emachine. Running XP Home. TIA Need more details. What happen when you try to change the direcory? Any error message? Or no effect too? Did you tried it using mouse or keyboard? Can you change drive or directory via Total Commander's command line box? e.g. E:\ or CD DATA I use Total Commander, BTW. And I haven't encountered a problem like yours. |
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: On 22 Sep 2017 16:39:48 GMT, KenK wrote: Suddenly having problems with this both versions (Total Commander/Windows Commander) old file manager. It won't change directories. One view is set to C drive, the other to L. Selecting another drive has no effect. This never happened before. Any theories by anyone familiar with this utility? I'd hate to switch to something else. I doubt DLing another version would help. My Computer's display looks at different drives with no problems. There might be something else wrong with the computer. It is a ~10 year old Emachine. Running XP Home. TIA Need more details. What happen when you try to change the direcory? Any error message? Or no effect too? \ OK. Using two drive panels. At the left top corner of the panel is a letter showing the drive selected. Under that and to its right are descriptions of the drive letter shown. If I click on the drive letter and select a new one the content list of the original drive does not change nor does the drive info under to the right of the letter. If I select something from the content list the drive letter in the little selection box changes by itself back to the original drive letter. Did you tried it using mouse or keyboard? Can you change drive or directory via Total Commander's command line box? e.g. E:\ or CD DATA Don't know. Never tried that. Not familiar with command line usage so can't check. I use Total Commander, BTW. And I haven't encountered a problem like yours. I've used it ten or fifteen years and hadn't either until a few days ago. I suspect something in the computer is causing the problem but haven't noticed problems elsewhere. I have a copy of both Total Commander and Windows Commander and both have the same problem. Hope this helps a little. As I said, the My Computer OS utility doesn't seem to have any problems with drive changing, content display and identities. -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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On 9/23/2017 9:27 AM, KenK wrote:
JJ wrote in : On 22 Sep 2017 16:39:48 GMT, KenK wrote: Suddenly having problems with this both versions (Total Commander/Windows Commander) old file manager. It won't change directories. One view is set to C drive, the other to L. Selecting another drive has no effect. This never happened before. Any theories by anyone familiar with this utility? I'd hate to switch to something else. I doubt DLing another version would help. My Computer's display looks at different drives with no problems. There might be something else wrong with the computer. It is a ~10 year old Emachine. Running XP Home. TIA Need more details. What happen when you try to change the direcory? Any error message? Or no effect too? \ OK. Using two drive panels. At the left top corner of the panel is a letter showing the drive selected. Under that and to its right are descriptions of the drive letter shown. If I click on the drive letter and select a new one the content list of the original drive does not change nor does the drive info under to the right of the letter. If I select something from the content list the drive letter in the little selection box changes by itself back to the original drive letter. Did you tried it using mouse or keyboard? Can you change drive or directory via Total Commander's command line box? e.g. E:\ or CD DATA Don't know. Never tried that. Not familiar with command line usage so can't check. I use Total Commander, BTW. And I haven't encountered a problem like yours. I've used it ten or fifteen years and hadn't either until a few days ago. I suspect something in the computer is causing the problem but haven't noticed problems elsewhere. I have a copy of both Total Commander and Windows Commander and both have the same problem. Hope this helps a little. As I said, the My Computer OS utility doesn't seem to have any problems with drive changing, content display and identities. I've been using total commander for years without any troubles. Recently, I'm seeing more cases of "total commander is not responding." Happens mostly with network drives, but not completely. I'm thinking something in windows has changed and the timeouts aren't working any more. |
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Il giorno Fri 22 Sep 2017 06:39:48p, *KenK* ha inviato su
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general il messaggio . Vediamo cosa ha scritto: I doubt DLing another version would help. try renaming the old directories: program: c:\Program Files (x86)\totalcmd\ c:\Program Files\totalcmd\ c:\totalcmd\ data: c:\Users\JohnDoe\AppData\Local\GHISLER\ c:\Users\JohnDoe\AppData\Roaming\GHISLER\ and install again -- /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ T /-\ -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- - -=- http://www.bb2002.it ............ [ al lavoro ] ........... |
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KenK wrote in
: OK. Using two drive panels. At the left top corner of the panel is a letter showing the drive selected. Under that and to its right are descriptions of the drive letter shown. If I click on the drive letter and select a new one the content list of the original drive does not change nor does the drive info under to the right of the letter. If I select something from the content list the drive letter in the little selection box changes by itself back to the original drive letter. Paul? John? Anyone know what could suddenly make this file manager fail to be able to change the drives properly? XP problem? Some other software? (This occurs when I first turn on computer before loading browser or other applications.) This occurs with either of two versions of this file manager. The manager worked fine for many years previous to this problem. TIA -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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KenK wrote:
KenK wrote in : OK. Using two drive panels. At the left top corner of the panel is a letter showing the drive selected. Under that and to its right are descriptions of the drive letter shown. If I click on the drive letter and select a new one the content list of the original drive does not change nor does the drive info under to the right of the letter. If I select something from the content list the drive letter in the little selection box changes by itself back to the original drive letter. Paul? John? Anyone know what could suddenly make this file manager fail to be able to change the drives properly? XP problem? Some other software? (This occurs when I first turn on computer before loading browser or other applications.) This occurs with either of two versions of this file manager. The manager worked fine for many years previous to this problem. TIA Obviously, the file manager doesn't think the partition you're trying to flip to, is present. Why does it think that ? I'm out of guesses. Remember, I'm the guy, that it took me more than one year of debugging, to figure out that some real weird symptoms on this computer, was *actually* caused by bad RAM. You wouldn't believe the weird **** File Explorer was doing. I was forced to fix it, when WinXP started crashing after reading any more than 15GB of hard drive data. That really made me sit up and take notice. And it was actually a Windows Memory Tester that found the bad RAM. I was just goofing around, and decided to try the Windows Memory Tester because I was bored. Paul |
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Paul wrote in newsqe8in$gkv$1@dont-
email.me: KenK wrote: KenK wrote in : OK. Using two drive panels. At the left top corner of the panel is a letter showing the drive selected. Under that and to its right are descriptions of the drive letter shown. If I click on the drive letter and select a new one the content list of the original drive does not change nor does the drive info under to the right of the letter. If I select something from the content list the drive letter in the little selection box changes by itself back to the original drive letter. Paul? John? Anyone know what could suddenly make this file manager fail to be able to change the drives properly? XP problem? Some other software? (This occurs when I first turn on computer before loading browser or other applications.) This occurs with either of two versions of this file manager. The manager worked fine for many years previous to this problem. TIA Obviously, the file manager doesn't think the partition you're trying to flip to, is present. Why does it think that ? I'm out of guesses. Remember, I'm the guy, that it took me more than one year of debugging, to figure out that some real weird symptoms on this computer, was *actually* caused by bad RAM. You wouldn't believe the weird **** File Explorer was doing. I was forced to fix it, when WinXP started crashing after reading any more than 15GB of hard drive data. That really made me sit up and take notice. And it was actually a Windows Memory Tester that found the bad RAM. I was just goofing around, and decided to try the Windows Memory Tester because I was bored. Paul Where did you find the Windows Memory Tester? I've searched with Control Panel and looked on Google and there seems to be nothing built-in I can find on my system. DLing stuff all seems to be disk images and seems more complicated than I'd prefer to get into. I can't seem to find a simple XP memory tester to run from the web site or DL. I seem to remember when I was running DOS they were all over the place. I have a couple of old floppies from magazines with maintenance utilities but I have no way to run a floppy. The utilities probably wouldn't work on XP anyhow. Suggestions? -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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KenK wrote:
Paul wrote in newsqe8in$gkv$1@dont- email.me: KenK wrote: KenK wrote in : OK. Using two drive panels. At the left top corner of the panel is a letter showing the drive selected. Under that and to its right are descriptions of the drive letter shown. If I click on the drive letter and select a new one the content list of the original drive does not change nor does the drive info under to the right of the letter. If I select something from the content list the drive letter in the little selection box changes by itself back to the original drive letter. Paul? John? Anyone know what could suddenly make this file manager fail to be able to change the drives properly? XP problem? Some other software? (This occurs when I first turn on computer before loading browser or other applications.) This occurs with either of two versions of this file manager. The manager worked fine for many years previous to this problem. TIA Obviously, the file manager doesn't think the partition you're trying to flip to, is present. Why does it think that ? I'm out of guesses. Remember, I'm the guy, that it took me more than one year of debugging, to figure out that some real weird symptoms on this computer, was *actually* caused by bad RAM. You wouldn't believe the weird **** File Explorer was doing. I was forced to fix it, when WinXP started crashing after reading any more than 15GB of hard drive data. That really made me sit up and take notice. And it was actually a Windows Memory Tester that found the bad RAM. I was just goofing around, and decided to try the Windows Memory Tester because I was bored. Paul Where did you find the Windows Memory Tester? I've searched with Control Panel and looked on Google and there seems to be nothing built-in I can find on my system. DLing stuff all seems to be disk images and seems more complicated than I'd prefer to get into. I can't seem to find a simple XP memory tester to run from the web site or DL. I seem to remember when I was running DOS they were all over the place. I have a couple of old floppies from magazines with maintenance utilities but I have no way to run a floppy. The utilities probably wouldn't work on XP anyhow. Suggestions? https://www.raymond.cc/blog/test-you...ry-diagnostic/ The Memory Diagnostic is also present on the Windows DVD and the System Recovery media disc. It’s available from the System recovery Options window and is the same tool accessed from in Windows that asks to reboot now and test, or test at next reboot. https://img.raymond.cc/blog/wp-conte...mem-diag-5.png This article has some nice pictures. https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...tics-tool.html So you'd probably be looking for a Vista, Win7, Win8, Win10 disc for that. Or, if you made the System Recover CD (about 300MB, made from the Windows Backup control panel tab), it's probably in there too. If you don't have your own media, the Heidoc URL generator, has a Copy To Clipboard button, to copy the URL for the various ISOs it can find on the Microsoft site. We have to use this, since the DigitalRiver downloads are gone now. The URLs point to Microsoft, and the image then has nothing to do with Heidoc. All that the Heidoc tool does is "fake" a session with the Microsoft server, to trick it into giving you the download. To do that, it uses Internet Explorer Some level of .NET and that can be a barrier for a WinXP user. Heidoc used to have a version for WinXP users, but they're having enough trouble keeping their main version running. Microsoft keeps jiggling the controls on their end, so in many ways this is as much of a pain in the ass to maintain as the Youtube Downloader. Requirements: Windows 7 or newer, .NET Framework 4.6.2 or newer, Internet Explorer 8 or newer. Those are pretty hefty requirements. But it does allow a Dell owner to get their very own Win7 retail ISO for reinstallation purposes. https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techno...-download-tool https://www.heidoc.net/php/Windows%2...Downloader.exe The current version (today) is 5.21, so that gives you some idea how often they need to update it. And that's how you get media (with the memory tester), when the official Microsoft web pages keep asking for license keys. Only Win10 (15063) doesn't ask for license keys, so that's an option if you want to get one of those discs. HTH, Paul |
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In message , KenK
writes: [] Where did you find the Windows Memory Tester? I've searched with Paul's answered that, but ... Control Panel and looked on Google and there seems to be nothing built-in I can find on my system. DLing stuff all seems to be disk images and seems more complicated than I'd prefer to get into. I can't seem to find a simple XP memory tester to run from the web site or DL. I seem to remember when I was running DOS they were all over the place. I have a couple of old floppies from magazines with maintenance utilities but I have no way to run a floppy. The utilities probably wouldn't work on XP anyhow. Suggestions? The commonest one in DOS days (and to some extent still) is something called something like MemTest86 - which wasn't DOS; it ran from a bootable floppy. If you haven't got a floppy drive, I _think_ there are versions that will run from a CD. (Seems a waste of about 699 [or 199 or whatever if you use a mini-one] MB, but since they only cost a few pence, I suppose it doesn't matter.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Bugger," said Pooh, feeling very annoyed. |
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , KenK writes: [] Where did you find the Windows Memory Tester? I've searched with Paul's answered that, but ... Control Panel and looked on Google and there seems to be nothing built-in I can find on my system. DLing stuff all seems to be disk images and seems more complicated than I'd prefer to get into. I can't seem to find a simple XP memory tester to run from the web site or DL. I seem to remember when I was running DOS they were all over the place. I have a couple of old floppies from magazines with maintenance utilities but I have no way to run a floppy. The utilities probably wouldn't work on XP anyhow. Suggestions? The commonest one in DOS days (and to some extent still) is something called something like MemTest86 - which wasn't DOS; it ran from a bootable floppy. If you haven't got a floppy drive, I _think_ there are versions that will run from a CD. (Seems a waste of about 699 [or 199 or whatever if you use a mini-one] MB, but since they only cost a few pence, I suppose it doesn't matter.) Memtest doesn't actually use an OS. The loader loads the executable, and the executable owns the machine. Memtest *is* the OS. It uses VESA video mode, to draw the screen. That's why the screen is 640x480 while it tests. The executable is pretty small. You can get memtest86+ at memtest.org . Half way down the web page. There is a CD version, suitable for modern (floppy-less) computers. I specifically included info for the Windows Memory Diagnostic, because you never know when a second opinion might be required. I just happened to see a failure in there, and I had to wait until the entire memtest suite was finished, before I could confirm it. This was one time, where only using memtest test #5, wasn't enough. You have to run the whole thing, if your memory problem is obscure enough. I was also not able to fault isolate to the nearest stick, try as I might. I had to install all four sticks, to see the (transient) error. And adjusting my Vnb this time, didn't help. Putting new memory in, fixed it (grrr...). Paul |
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Paul wrote in news
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , KenK writes: [] Where did you find the Windows Memory Tester? I've searched with Paul's answered that, but ... Control Panel and looked on Google and there seems to be nothing built-in I can find on my system. DLing stuff all seems to be disk images and seems more complicated than I'd prefer to get into. I can't seem to find a simple XP memory tester to run from the web site or DL. I seem to remember when I was running DOS they were all over the place. I have a couple of old floppies from magazines with maintenance utilities but I have no way to run a floppy. The utilities probably wouldn't work on XP anyhow. Suggestions? The commonest one in DOS days (and to some extent still) is something called something like MemTest86 - which wasn't DOS; it ran from a bootable floppy. If you haven't got a floppy drive, I _think_ there are versions that will run from a CD. (Seems a waste of about 699 [or 199 or whatever if you use a mini-one] MB, but since they only cost a few pence, I suppose it doesn't matter.) Memtest doesn't actually use an OS. The loader loads the executable, and the executable owns the machine. Memtest *is* the OS. It uses VESA video mode, to draw the screen. That's why the screen is 640x480 while it tests. The executable is pretty small. You can get memtest86+ at memtest.org . Half way down the web page. There is a CD version, suitable for modern (floppy-less) computers. I specifically included info for the Windows Memory Diagnostic, because you never know when a second opinion might be required. I just happened to see a failure in there, and I had to wait until the entire memtest suite was finished, before I could confirm it. This was one time, where only using memtest test #5, wasn't enough. You have to run the whole thing, if your memory problem is obscure enough. I was also not able to fault isolate to the nearest stick, try as I might. I had to install all four sticks, to see the (transient) error. And adjusting my Vnb this time, didn't help. Putting new memory in, fixed it (grrr...). Paul How difficult is it to replace the memory chips? Remember? I seem to recall doing it on one of my systems a few years ago but that's all I recall. Probably depends on the motherboard. -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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In message , KenK
writes: [] How difficult is it to replace the memory chips? Remember? I seem to recall doing it on one of my systems a few years ago but that's all I recall. Probably depends on the motherboard. What Memtest86 (and I suspect the other utility that others have mentioned) tests is the RAM modules, which are one of the more trivial things to change on a motherboard. You probably know this, but I wasn't sure, from the above question. If you don't: the RAM modules are long narrow circuit boards, held in by clips at each end - often, when the clips are pushed outwards, they pivot and push the modules up out of their sockets. They come in various sorts, dependent on the motherboard - with names like DDR2, DDR3, DDR, PC100, PC133 ... Changing actual _chip_ packages on the memory modules isn't something I would normally consider; it's certainly possible, given the right equipment, but not easy, and I suspect not cost-effective. (You'd also have to know which one needed changing.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf No, I haven't changed my mind - I'm perfectly happy with the one I have, thank you. |
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , KenK writes: [] How difficult is it to replace the memory chips? Remember? I seem to recall doing it on one of my systems a few years ago but that's all I recall. Probably depends on the motherboard. What Memtest86 (and I suspect the other utility that others have mentioned) tests is the RAM modules, which are one of the more trivial things to change on a motherboard. You probably know this, but I wasn't sure, from the above question. If you don't: the RAM modules are long narrow circuit boards, held in by clips at each end - often, when the clips are pushed outwards, they pivot and push the modules up out of their sockets. They come in various sorts, dependent on the motherboard - with names like DDR2, DDR3, DDR, PC100, PC133 ... Changing actual _chip_ packages on the memory modules isn't something I would normally consider; it's certainly possible, given the right equipment, but not easy, and I suspect not cost-effective. (You'd also have to know which one needed changing.) Yeah, the ejectors on the ends of the DIMM sockets help them come loose. When you put them back, you listen for a "click" and you can sometimes eyeball the socket and see if the gold contacts are "submerged" so you cannot see them again. That's an alternative way to tell their "homed'. The modules are keyed, and only fit one way. The key is on the contact edge. *All* power must be removed from the computer, during insertion or removal, and unplugging is an easy way to de-power it. On an Asus motherboard, you wait until the green LED goes out, before beginning work. Other brands don't have the +5VSB green LED indicator. When the modules are reinserted, the ejectors should be vertical and the features on the side of the ejector fit into "dents" in the ends of the modules. If the ejectors didn't rotate to be flat against the module, it probably isn't all the way in. When the edges of the modules used to have a nice bevel on them, the insertion force was gradual. Now some of the modules are sorta "blunt" on the edge, and it hurts your fingers installing them. So if someone asks "how much force should this take", the answer is "considerable". At one time, if you were bending the motherboard, I'd tell you to "stop". Now, I have to say stuff like "use your best judgment", based on just how hard I've had to push on the boards here. Just make sure the key lines up, and you're not trying to bust off the key :-) On some past motherboards, they shaved down the 9.6"x9.6" or 12.0"x9.6" dimensions on the motherboard, to save money on PCB material. Full sizes motherboards might have nine holes and nine screws to hold them down. If you have a sub-sized board, three of the holes could go missing, and that edge of the board is "easily bent". Now, you've got a problem. If you had a modern DIMM which is hard to insert, coupled with a motherboard that is not properly supported, you'll need to insert a stick of wood or similar, to provide strength. You can remove the stick later if you want. The stick should have the same thickness, as the motherboard standoffs are in height. On my Test Machine, when the CPU was installed, the heatsink is so big, there's no room to get at the DIMM sockets. On those, I actually had to take a piece of stick 1/2"x1/2" end dimensions and push down on the DIMM until it clicked. The stick was maybe 10" long. And that was on the side of the CPU socket, where my hand wouldn't fit. That's how nutty this stuff gets. You end up pressing so hard on the stick, it leaves marks in the end of the wood. Three cheers for good DIMM design, and those blunted edges. On the storage bay side of the motherboard, my hand fits easily there. On the I/O plate side of the CPU socket, I can just barely get my fingers in there, but not enough to press down on a DIMM. Paul |
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In message , Paul
writes: J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , KenK writes: [] How difficult is it to replace the memory chips? Remember? I seem to recall doing it on one of my systems a few years ago but that's all I recall. Probably depends on the motherboard. What Memtest86 (and I suspect the other utility that others have mentioned) tests is the RAM modules, which are one of the more trivial things to change on a motherboard. You probably know this, but I wasn't sure, from the above question. If you don't: the RAM modules are long narrow circuit boards, held in by clips at each end - often, when the clips are pushed outwards, they pivot and push the modules up out of their sockets. They come in various sorts, dependent on the motherboard - with names like DDR2, DDR3, DDR, PC100, PC133 ... [] Yeah, the ejectors on the ends of the DIMM sockets help them come loose. When you put them back, you listen for a "click" and you can sometimes eyeball the socket and see if the gold contacts are "submerged" so you cannot see them again. That's an alternative way to tell their "homed'. The modules are keyed, and only fit one way. The key is on the contact edge. *All* power must be removed from the computer, during insertion or removal, and unplugging is an easy way to de-power it. On an Asus motherboard, you wait until the green LED goes out, before beginning work. Other brands don't have the +5VSB green LED indicator. When the modules are reinserted, the ejectors should be vertical and the features on the side of the ejector That's when the reinsertion is _complete_. To _start_ a reinsertion, the injectors should of course be opened as wide as they'll go. fit into "dents" in the ends of the modules. If the ejectors didn't rotate to be flat against the module, it probably isn't all the way in. When the edges of the modules used to have a nice bevel on them, the insertion force was gradual. Now some of the modules are sorta "blunt" on the edge, and it hurts your fingers installing them. So if someone asks "how much force should this take", the answer is "considerable". At one time, [] I _think_ KenK's board isn't all that modern. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Colorless green ideas sleep furiously. |
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