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Thunderbird nefarious activities ????
I close Thunderburd because it is pull 50% of my CPU. CPU usage does not go down so I check Process Explorer and Thunderburd is still there !!! Why ??? What nefarious actions is it taking ? How do I make it stop eating all my CPU time ? |
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On 06/20/2018 11:07 AM, OGEE wrote:
I close Thunderburd because it is pull 50% of my CPU. CPU usage does not go down so I check Process Explorer and Thunderburd is still there !!!Â*Â* Why ??? What nefarious actions is it taking ? How do I make it stop eating all my CPU time ? You might have more luck posting in the mozilla.support.thunderbird group in the news.mozilla.org server. |
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"OGEE" wrote
| I close Thunderburd because it is pull 50% of my CPU. | | CPU usage does not go down so I check Process Explorer and Thunderburd | is still there !!! Why ??? | | What nefarious actions is it taking ? | | How do I make it stop eating all my CPU time ? As with any software, you can check. Run Process Explorer to see what it's doing on disk. Run online monitors to see if it's calling somewhere. Beyond that, disable auto updating and the call-home functions. ("Telemetry", etc.) |
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OGEE wrote:
I close Thunderburd because it is pull 50% of my CPU. CPU usage does not go down so I check Process Explorer and Thunderburd is still there !!! Why ??? What nefarious actions is it taking ? How do I make it stop eating all my CPU time ? I don't know how to debug it, but here's an example of Thunderbird doing the loop-de-loop. People seem to be focused on GLODA, which is an email content indexer intended to aid in some kind of "search". https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1362483 Thunderbird is a masterpiece of asynchronous activity. It's compacting. It's fetching newsgroups (out of order and opening multiple connections to the news server while doing so). It's running indexing via GLODA. It slices, dices and makes Julian fries. People might assume a program for composing email or reading USENET articles would be a "passive" program, but that's hardly the case for TBird. It's as busy behind the scenes, as a copy of Windows 10 is. Paul |
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How do I disable ? |
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Thunderbird nefarious activities ????
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:07:48 -0700
OGEE wrote: I close Thunderburd because it is pull 50% of my CPU. CPU usage does not go down so I check Process Explorer and Thunderburd is still there !!! Why ??? What nefarious actions is it taking ? How do I make it stop eating all my CPU time ? By using Claws Mail. https://www.claws-mail.org/win32/ I used Thunderbird from the time it first came out, and changed to Claws Mail about three years ago, I would never use Thunderbird again. If you like the way Thunderbird is laid out, you can make Claws Mail look almost like it. I admit it takes a while to learn to set it up properly, but it's worth it. If you check Claws Mail with System Monitor, it says it's sleeping. It renders HTML as plain text by default, but you can change it. You can also filter on a phrase in the headers. |
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Thunderbird nefarious activities ????
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:07:48 -0700
OGEE wrote: I close Thunderburd because it is pull 50% of my CPU. CPU usage does not go down so I check Process Explorer and Thunderburd is still there !!! Why ??? What nefarious actions is it taking ? How do I make it stop eating all my CPU time ? By using Claws Mail. https://www.claws-mail.org/win32/ I used Thunderbird from the time it first came out, and changed to Claws Mail about three years ago, I would never use Thunderbird again. If you like the way Thunderbird is laid out, you can make Claws Mail look almost like it. I admit it takes a while to learn to set it up properly, but it's worth it. If you check Claws Mail with System Monitor, it says it's sleeping. It renders HTML as plain text by default, but you can change it. You can also filter on a phrase in the headers. |
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Boris wrote:
Paul wrote in news OGEE wrote: I close Thunderburd because it is pull 50% of my CPU. CPU usage does not go down so I check Process Explorer and Thunderburd is still there !!! Why ??? What nefarious actions is it taking ? How do I make it stop eating all my CPU time ? I don't know how to debug it, but here's an example of Thunderbird doing the loop-de-loop. People seem to be focused on GLODA, which is an email content indexer intended to aid in some kind of "search". https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1362483 Thunderbird is a masterpiece of asynchronous activity. It's compacting. It's fetching newsgroups (out of order and opening multiple connections to the news server while doing so). It's running indexing via GLODA. It slices, dices and makes Julian fries. People might assume a program for composing email or reading USENET articles would be a "passive" program, but that's hardly the case for TBird. It's as busy behind the scenes, as a copy of Windows 10 is. Paul I think you put it best on 2/10/2018: "As for the overall design, Thunderbird is a busy busy pile of steaming crap." Full context can be found he The problems are more fun, when you can reproduce them. Whatever I was working on there, I had some way to reproduce, then run the tools such as they are. You could look with Process Explorer, as it shows some of the routines being called, in the part that's "busy on one core" and has a high cycle count. In this (poor) example, I used SuperPI to keep the CPU busy, then pointed Process Explorer at it, to see why it's busy. The string on the right doesn't have a particularly illuminating name, but Thunderbird might be different. Note that, if using Process Explorer to "look inside" a SVCHOST, the Process Explorer has to be "Run As Administrator". For this example, that wasn't necessary. https://s22.postimg.cc/z8pdf7sj5/pro...ies_window.gif The Sysinternals utility Process Monitor can also give information, if for example there's a lot of file I/O. Process Explorer and Process Monitor are available here. For WinXP, the current version might not work, and you might have to look for older versions if wishing to use them. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...als/downloads/ Paul |
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"OGEE" wrote
| How do I disable ? | Look in the settings. Tools - Options. Disable the "Data Choices" things. Disable update. That should stop it going online unbidden. Then Process monitor can tell you if it's doing something local. |
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On 6/20/2018 8:07 AM, OGEE wrote:
I close Thunderburd because it is pull 50% of my CPU. CPU usage does not go down so I check Process Explorer and Thunderburd is still there !!! Why ??? What nefarious actions is it taking ? How do I make it stop eating all my CPU time ? I am reading this thread with the following: * Windows 7 Ultimate SP 1 (x64) * Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 * AVG Anti-Virus Free 18.4.3056 * 16 .xpi extensions active * Intel Core i5-3340 CPU (four) 3.10 GHz, x64; memory caches: 256 Kb primary, 1024 kB secondary, 6144 kB tertiary * Corsair VS1GB533D2 memory, 8068 MB in two DIMM1 slots In a single Thunderbird session, I just now read several E-mail messages, looked at some RSS feed messages (which I deleted), and then read this newsgroup thread. I do not see this problem. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Attorney-General Sessions claims the bible favors imprisoning illegal aliens. However, God repeatedly commanded us to welcome the stranger in our land. For example, see the following: Exodus 22:20 at http://bible.ort.org/books/pentd2.asp?ACTION=displaypage&BOOK=2&CHAPTER=22#P2 131 Exodus 23:9 at http://bible.ort.org/books/pentd2.asp?ACTION=displaypage&BOOK=2&CHAPTER=23#P2 151 Deuteronomy 10:19 at http://bible.ort.org/books/pentd2.asp?ACTION=displaypage&BOOK=5&CHAPTER=10#P5 200 |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:12:52 -0500, Johnny wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:07:48 -0700 OGEE wrote: I close Thunderburd because it is pull 50% of my CPU. CPU usage does not go down so I check Process Explorer and Thunderburd is still there !!! Why ??? What nefarious actions is it taking ? How do I make it stop eating all my CPU time ? By using Claws Mail. https://www.claws-mail.org/win32/ I used Thunderbird from the time it first came out, and changed to Claws Mail about three years ago, I would never use Thunderbird again. If you like the way Thunderbird is laid out, you can make Claws Mail look almost like it. I admit it takes a while to learn to set it up properly, but it's worth it. If you check Claws Mail with System Monitor, it says it's sleeping. It renders HTML as plain text by default, but you can change it. You can also filter on a phrase in the headers. Or Sylpheed. Preferably made portable. I've never caught it doing anything "naughty". https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/doc/faq/e...eed-faq-2.html //If sylpheed.ini file exists at the same location as sylpheed.exe, it will be loaded at startup. With this approach, you can make Sylpheed completely portable independent of drive letters etc., and you can install it in removable media such as USB memory. // []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:12:52 -0500, Johnny wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:07:48 -0700 OGEE wrote: I close Thunderburd because it is pull 50% of my CPU. CPU usage does not go down so I check Process Explorer and Thunderburd is still there !!! Why ??? What nefarious actions is it taking ? How do I make it stop eating all my CPU time ? By using Claws Mail. https://www.claws-mail.org/win32/ I used Thunderbird from the time it first came out, and changed to Claws Mail about three years ago, I would never use Thunderbird again. If you like the way Thunderbird is laid out, you can make Claws Mail look almost like it. I admit it takes a while to learn to set it up properly, but it's worth it. If you check Claws Mail with System Monitor, it says it's sleeping. It renders HTML as plain text by default, but you can change it. You can also filter on a phrase in the headers. Or Sylpheed. Preferably made portable. I've never caught it doing anything "naughty". https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/doc/faq/e...eed-faq-2.html //If sylpheed.ini file exists at the same location as sylpheed.exe, it will be loaded at startup. With this approach, you can make Sylpheed completely portable independent of drive letters etc., and you can install it in removable media such as USB memory. // []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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