Why Win7 or Vista?

"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
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"AleXX" wrote in message
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Frankly, what advantages have these 2 later Microsoft Operating System
over the older and more stable version of Xp?

There is no advantage.

That's not entirely true, they (mostly Win7) appear to be focused on
"cloud computing" where significant portions of the workload is done on
the 'net. I suppose one could make a strong argument that I'm too stupid
to understand what benefit that actually brings me, but I don't see the
benefit. And the overhead that you have cited is significant, especially
in the face of scant benefits.

The reason is:
1. There USED to be dumb terminals that worked from anywhere - via phone
line. DEC had cluster technology in the 80's so it was a virtual mainframe.
But not for the masses. PC's used terminal emulation and could fit the bill
for either.
2. In the workplace , there was money to be made by creating workstations
( back when mainframes/ phone lines would be overloaded by CAD / CAM users)
Computer companies exploited that for all it was worth. ( Think Sun, DEC,
Apollo, later MSFT, ...)
Now no reason for mass migration to anything, so
3. CREATE a reason -: cloud computing - aka "Expensive dumb terminals".
4. Now MSFT, providers can supply the software ( on a contract basis) that
YOU used to buy. You are now dishing out cash but now for the
software/availability ... you're LEASING time/software, not owning it

Basically you're back at #1 except that your check goes to the software
company and not the timeshare company ( think MSFT vs. AOL, CompuServe)

"- Bobb -" wrote in message
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"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
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"AleXX" wrote in message
...
Frankly, what advantages have these 2 later Microsoft Operating System
over the older and more stable version of Xp?

There is no advantage.

That's not entirely true, they (mostly Win7) appear to be focused on
"cloud computing" where significant portions of the workload is done on
the 'net. I suppose one could make a strong argument that I'm too stupid
to understand what benefit that actually brings me, but I don't see the
benefit. And the overhead that you have cited is significant, especially
in the face of scant benefits.

The reason is:
1. There USED to be dumb terminals that worked from anywhere - via phone
line. DEC had cluster technology in the 80's so it was a virtual
mainframe. But not for the masses. PC's used terminal emulation and could
fit the bill for either.
2. In the workplace , there was money to be made by creating workstations
( back when mainframes/ phone lines would be overloaded by CAD / CAM
users) Computer companies exploited that for all it was worth. ( Think
Sun, DEC, Apollo, later MSFT, ...)
Now no reason for mass migration to anything, so
3. CREATE a reason -: cloud computing - aka "Expensive dumb terminals".
4. Now MSFT, providers can supply the software ( on a contract basis) that
YOU used to buy. You are now dishing out cash but now for the
software/availability ... you're LEASING time/software, not owning it

Basically you're back at #1 except that your check goes to the software
company and not the timeshare company ( think MSFT vs. AOL, CompuServe)




I think you said essentially the same thing as I said, but with more detail.

As a user, Cloud Computing means to me that instead of loading my local
resources with applications and programs, I can rent a program that resides
out on a cloud somewhere. The only benefit I see to me is that maybe I use a
program twice or three times a year, and instead of buying it for $179, I
could rent it for a day for $25. For a few programs, this could make sense,
but if there is a push to move the MSoft Office Suite to a strictly
cloud-experience then there is a huge new cost of computing to face users
down the road. Win7 is supposed to (as I understand it) help to facilitate
cloud computing. I'm not sure this is a good thing or not. I suppose it
depends on the cloud -- whether it is white and fluffy, or black and
menacing. ...if the silver cloud has a black lining, or not.

I Still use XP because 7 can't handle the programs. There maybe only 1
or two things in 7 worth having otherwise stick to XP Pro.

The reason is:
Now no reason for mass migration to anything, so
3. CREATE a reason -: cloud computing - aka "Expensive dumb terminals".
4. Now MSFT, providers can supply the software ( on a contract basis) that
YOU used to buy. You are now dishing out cash but now for the
software/availability ... you're LEASING time/software, not owning it

Basically you're back at #1 except that your check goes to the software
company and not the timeshare company ( think MSFT vs. AOL, CompuServe)

On 12/3/2010 9:22 PM, Jason wrote:
I Still use XP because 7 can't handle the programs. There maybe only 1
or two things in 7 worth having otherwise stick to XP Pro.

The reason is:
Now no reason for mass migration to anything, so
3. CREATE a reason -: cloud computing - aka "Expensive dumb terminals".
4. Now MSFT, providers can supply the software ( on a contract basis)
that
YOU used to buy. You are now dishing out cash but now for the
software/availability ... you're LEASING time/software, not owning it

Basically you're back at #1 except that your check goes to the software
company and not the timeshare company ( think MSFT vs. AOL, CompuServe)




So far, with win 7, the worst case I've had is having to run a program
under the virtual schemes. Other than that, the only programs I've had
trouble with are those that directly addressed the hardware. They also
did not run under XP. Some worked under win 3.x or originally under DOS.