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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
Arlen Holder wrote:
[...] 1. Install & set up & run any free FTP server on Android, e.g., https://f-droid.org/en/packages/be.ppareit.swiftp_free/ Defaults username=ftp password=ftp port=2121 folder=/storage/emulated/0 2. On Windows, open an Administrator command prompt & then run: (For the FTP user "ftpuser" with password "ftppass") ftpuse T: 192.168.1.6 ftppass /USER:ftpuser /PORT:2121 /debug At the time, you used the 'Primitive FTPd' FTP server and: FTPUSE Z: 192.168.1.5 /PORT:12345 /USER:anonymous I.e. user 'anonymous' and no password. See news I've successfully used that command (of course with different IP and port) with the FTP server if ES File Explorer. [...] |
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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
Arlen Holder wrote:
On 13 Oct 2018 09:37:52 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: Don't worry, I know very well who/what 'Arlen' is. On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 13:36:36 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote: Let me tell you a secret, since you acted like an adult in this thread. o When you act like an adult, I treat you as an adult o When you act like a child, I point it out & treat you as a child Do you see Frank? It's really a very simple dynamic. Frank, To reiterate what _you_ said, and what I said... 1. You erroneously "think", that "it only takes one response" "to get to first blood" ... which is how a child thinks. Nope. A child - i.e. you in this case - thinks that if it denies unpleasant - for it/you - *facts*, that these facts will magically go away. Most childs grow out of it. You apparently never have. [Umpteen more lines from 'Arlen' denying the *fact* that *he* always draws first blood.] It's rather easy: Next time I do not respond in a normal (what you call 'adult') way, it's because you've drawn first blood. So go back to that earlier response of yours and try to prove that you were *not* drawing first blood. In the meantime, the rest of us will wait for pigs to fly and for some hot place to freeze over. |
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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
On 13 Oct 2018 14:32:46 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
At the time, you used the 'Primitive FTPd' FTP server and: Hi Frank Slootweg, You bring up a good point that it could be a bad FTP server on Android. But it's not that. http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3316456dir08.jpg As you know Frank Slootweg, I long ago proved that I've used _every_ single free FTP server available for Android from both F-Droid and Google Play, since I was debugging why Windows was "flaky" with all three client methods: o winscp o filezilla o network location I wrote detailed reviews, as you're aware, where I've concluded that Windows is flaky with FTP no matter which FTP server is on Android. https://f-droid.org/en/packages/be.ppareit.swiftp_free/ https://f-droid.org/packages/org.primftpd/ To your point, as a test, just now, I killed the "FTP Server (Free)" & ran "Primitive FTPd" using the same settings, but the same thing happened. http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3316456dir08.jpg My tentative conclusion is that FTPUse no longer works (on Windows 10). So I'm giving up on the test of FTPUse since the hope was to find a trick that will allow us to map Android to a drive letter on Windows over USB. To the point of the reason for running any server, the hope is that there may be a trick we can make use of to mount the Android device as a drive letter on Windows over USB (not over WiFi). *To that end, these (new?) SAF settings in Primitive FTPd may be useful:* http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3168139ftpd.jpg Storage Type o Plain old filesystem o Super user (device must be rooted) o Android Storage Access Framework (SAF) (e.g., for sd card) o Read only SAF (faster !) |
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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:08:38 -0400, Wolf K wrote:
I am acting like an adult. You're not. Hi Wolf K, What can you tell us about this new "SAF" setting for Android? http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3168139ftpd.jpg Storage Type o Plain old filesystem o Super user (device must be rooted) o Android Storage Access Framework (SAF) (e.g., for sd card) o Read only SAF (faster !) How would you, Wolf K, suggest we use SAF to mount the Android filesystem on Windows over USB? |
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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
On 13 Oct 2018 14:32:46 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Nope. A child - i.e. you in this case - thinks that if it denies unpleasant - for it/you - *facts*, that these facts will magically go away. Most childs grow out of it. You apparently never have. Hi Frank Slootweg, I realize that this thread asks _hard_ technical questions. I also realize there are only a handful of intelligent people on this ng. Nobody has a working solution (AFAIK), so I'm testing out alternatives, in the hopes of finding a "trick" that nobody knows about yet, that will allow us to freely map the entire Android filesystem as a drive letter onto Windows over USB. To that end, what can you tell us about this SAF setting for Android? http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3168139ftpd.jpg Storage Type o Plain old filesystem o Super user (device must be rooted) o Android Storage Access Framework (SAF) (e.g., for sd card) o Read only SAF (faster !) How would you suggest, Frank Slootweg, we use SAF to mount the Android filesystem as a drive letter on Windows over USB? |
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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
Holder wrote:
On 13 Oct 2018 14:32:46 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: At the time, you used the 'Primitive FTPd' FTP server and: Hi Frank Slootweg, You bring up a good point that it could be a bad FTP server on Android. But it's not that. http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3316456dir08.jpg I actually mentioned *two* points. You addressed/checked only one of them. [...] My tentative conclusion is that FTPUse no longer works (on Windows 10). Could be, but because you didn't test in the same way as your old - working - setup [1], you have no proof. [1] See my earlier - silently snipped - pointer to your old posting. |
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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
Wolf K wrote:
[...] I fail to see your problem. When I connect my phone via USB to this Win8.1 box, I see the phone as an external drive. I can access all the data. I see no reason to go below that into the OS. Why do you want to do that? Unless you have a rather old phone [1], you don't see your phone as a *drive*, i.e. a thing which has a drive letter. You probably see your phone in File Explorer and *only* in File Explorer. If your phone is a Windows *drive* (or a Network Share), you could - for example - open a file on your phone with a Windows program - for example Notepad, *without* first copying the file to your Windows system. I.e. you can not open a file which resides on your phone. You can only copy it to your Windows system and *then* open it. This difference might seem semantics, but it is a big difference in functionality. Without it, programs on the Windows system do not have direct access to the files on your phone. For example you can't make backup (backup, not just copy) of the files on the phone, by using a (generic) backup program on your Windows system. [1] Old Android devices might still have (USB) 'Mass Storage Mode', which *does* give a Windows drive (letter). |
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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:46:07 -0400, Wolf K wrote:
What's your problem? Hi Wolf K, *You just posted the best proof that you own the mind of a child.* You realize you just _proved_ you don't even comprehend the _simplest_ of technical questions, Wolf K, don't you? HINT: Read the subject line of this thread, Wolf K. Yes. Read it. Comprehend it. Yes, Wolf K. Even though you've posted multiple times to this thread, Wolf K, you proved in each post that you _still_ don't even comprehend even the _simplest_ of technical *question* (which are clearly outlined in the original post). Read the subject line, Wolf K. Read it again. Think. Think. Think. Wolf K. Think. If you can. About that subject line. I don't need to prove you own the mind of a child, Wolf K. You proved it yourself. I _know_ full well, Wolf K, you can't ever add on topic technical value. You never even once comprehended even the *subject* line, for God's sake. You're _really_ that stupid, Wolf K. You proved it yourself, thank you. |
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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
Arlen,
I'm going to _try_ to communicate with you as adults do, honestly. o Adults speak facts. And tell lies as easily. Heck, even easier than young kids. But that means that, as you pull all kinds of fantasy accusations outof your ass (about personal stuff you simply cannot have any knowledge about) you are, by your own rules, not an adult. o Adults comprehend facts. As you continuously fail in that department you're, by your, again by your own rules, own rules, not an adult. You acted like a child, Rudy Wieser, in _every_ post in this thread. Prove it. Just your say-so doesn't cut it I'm afraid. And than compare it to you your persistent ad-hominem attacks towards *anyone* not agreeing with you. A child Arlen ? I think I can safely call you one. If not in body, than certainly in mind. *If you don't comprehend that fact, it doesn't change that it's a fact.* Claiming that something is a fact does not magically make it so. I can claim that you being a seagull is a fact, but that certainly doesn't turn you into one, does it ? Adults know that, why don't you ? Alienating you, Rudy Wieser, will bring huge advantages to this newsgroup in terms of actually solving difficult technical problems. Fat chance, seeing the ammount of support you have in these newsgroups. As for your "difficult" problems ? All I needed for one of them was 30 seconds of googeling. Difficult my ass. For the rest its most always your "but it must (also) do exactly {specifications}, otherwise I do not accept it as a solution" that actually makes it difficult. Just take a look at your current project: You've already refused four solutions because you did not like them - nonwithstanding that they could do what you initially posted. In short, its mostly not the problem thats (being) difficult, but you. :-) I _intend_ on alienating you - Rudy Wieser As I already said, good luck with that. If I'm being too clear for you Rudy Wieser, just let me know. No. Just repetetive. Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
On 13 Oct 2018 16:08:00 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Unless you have a rather old phone [1], you don't see your phone as a *drive*, i.e. a thing which has a drive letter. You probably see your phone in File Explorer and *only* in File Explorer. Hi Frank Slootweg (cc, Wolf K), Thank you Frank, for being only one of two adults on this entire newsgroup who _understood_ the topic (Paul included, having posted elsewhere). Even though this thread has tons of posts from the child-like: o *Ken Blake* [From: Ken Blake ] o *Wolf K* [From: Wolf K ] o *Danny DeVito* [From: Danny DeVito ] o *Char Jackson* [From: Char Jackson ] o *Rudy Wieser* [From: "R.Wieser" ] o *Sam Hill* [From: Sam Hill ] * etc. Not _one_ of those child-like trolls appears to have _understood_ even the _simplest_ of technical problems posed in this thread. *All the ignorant children like Wolf K & Rudy Wieser _can_ do, is troll.* Only you and I are intelligent enough, not that it takes a lot of intelligence to comprehend the subject line - but only you and I seem to have comprehended what the problem set is. (And Paul, elsewhere.) [1] Old Android devices might still have (USB) 'Mass Storage Mode', which *does* give a Windows drive (letter). This is a good point, which you and I both know, where, oh, somewhere around Android 4.4 or so, things changed such that what we _want_ to do is no longer easy to do. The best any of us can come up with, so far, is to use the proprietary solution I outlined elsewhere in this thread, which allows "some" Windows DOS commands to work unrestricted (but not all DOS commands). In summary, only you and I (and Paul) have shown that we comprehend the technical issue here; the rest are simply proving they're children who don't have the capacity to understand even the _slightest_ of technical issues. |
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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:11:16 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
I _intend_ on alienating you - Rudy Wieser As I already said, good luck with that. You have clearly proven, Rudy Wieser, that... (a) You (& the other children) don't even _comprehend_ the topic, & yet, (b) Even so, you insist on proving your God-given *right to troll* *You vermin, Rudy Wieser, will _always_ ruin the potluck Usenet picnic.* |
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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
Arlen,
You have clearly proven, Rudy Wieser, that... Yeah, yeah, yeah. You claim stuff like there is no tomorrow. Yet as always you fail to put your money where your (big) mouth is. In short, your claims are not even worth the paper they are written on (and as you didn't even *use* paper ... :-) ) *You vermin, Rudy Wieser, will _always_ ruin the potluck Usenet picnic.* Well, I will, at least for a while, ruin *yours*. 'Cause the only *one* who seems to get lucky in those picnics is you. Not bringing any food with you, but always end up having eaten your belly full. And I don't think that is either fair, nor nice towards the victims^wother people involved. Than again, you do not really seem to draw a crowd for such picnics ... Maybe you're not doing enough to attract people ? What about some sweepstakes ? And maybe a merry-go-round and a clown. And one of those balloon-animal creators. Those always do good with kids among the picnicing folk you know. (Now you've got a *reason* to call me a troll. :-D ) Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
Arlen Holder wrote:
On 13 Oct 2018 16:08:00 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: Unless you have a rather old phone [1], you don't see your phone as a *drive*, i.e. a thing which has a drive letter. You probably see your phone in File Explorer and *only* in File Explorer. Hi Frank Slootweg (cc, Wolf K), Thank you Frank, for being only one of two adults on this entire newsgroup who _understood_ the topic (Paul included, having posted elsewhere). Don't flatter yourself! In this case, for totally random (non-)reasons, you haven't drawn first blood. But in another thread, you fsck-ed up again and instead of *reading* and *trying* to *learn* from what people post, your threw yet another tantrum and uttered yet another slew of misdirected and inappropriate insults (fool, childish, you have no concept of advanced use, you'll never graduate above, you won't grow mentally, rigid mindset, Classic fifth-grade drivel, etc., etc.). So you - and *only* you - switch at random between - somewhat - adult behaviour and acting like a total jerk/creep. Which shows the need to re-issue the challenge, which no doubt you will dodge *again*: [Rewind, repeat dodged challenge:] 'Arlen', name *one*, just *one* person in these groups who agrees with *any* viewpoint which you raise in one of the zillions of threads you (think you) 'author' (and *prove* that with a verifiable cite). [Sounds of audience not holding their breath.] |
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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Android filesystem?
Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-10-13 12:08, Frank Slootweg wrote: Wolf K wrote: [...] I fail to see your problem. When I connect my phone via USB to this Win8.1 box, I see the phone as an external drive. I can access all the data. I see no reason to go below that into the OS. Why do you want to do that? Unless you have a rather old phone [1], you don't see your phone as a *drive*, i.e. a thing which has a drive letter. You probably see your phone in File Explorer and *only* in File Explorer. [...] You're right, the drive letter is an alias. Should've sussed that, since it doesn't have Eject as a menu item. But I still don't see a problem. I can open the files from Explorer, one at a time only of course, but since I don't see any point in messing with the files directly _on the phone_, I don't see that as a serious problem. If I do mess with the photo, and then Save the altered photo, it's saved on my HDD, which from my POV is where it belongs. Anyhow, if I really want to alter the picture on the phone, the photo viewer has that facility built in. I've never used it. My photos are good enough to share without tweaking. :-) BTW, the photo viewer has a slew of other capabilities, the only one I use regularly is Share via email. So while I see there's a functional issue here, I don't see a problem. Maybe a puzzle, to solve just for the hell of it. Consider the backup example (note *example*, not the only scenario) I mentioned (but you snipped). Say you have a phone with 80GB of storage (16 internal, 64 SD-card). If you want to backup that phone, you'll need to copy upto 80GB to your Windows system, even if perhaps only 10% (8GB) has been changed. You also need upto 80GB of temporary space on your Windows system. Only *after* that upto 80GB copy, a (real) backup program can - try to - figure out what has changed and backup only the 8GB to the backup device (incremental backup). If OTOH, your phone was presented as a (real) Windows drive (or Network Share), you could have made a backup of your Android filesystems, the same way you do for any Windows file system. There are many, many other examples where *direct* file access is desired or even needed/mandatory. FWIW, because all methods to get a (real) Windows drive or Network Share to access an Android file system suck in major ways, I've given up on this and have only solved *my* major issue - backup - by doing things in the opposite direction, i.e. the Android system does the incremental backup to a Network Share. |
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From Windows, how can we open a command line on the Androidfilesystem?
On 10/13/2018 9:27 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:02:39 +0200, R.Wieser wrote: Lol ! You think you are some kind of royalty ? On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 10:18:04 +0200, R.Wieser wrote: How many more does it take to realize that *you* might be the problem, and not all those others ? (which is what I tried to convey with my ghostrider "joke") Rudy Wieser, I'm going to _try_ to communicate with you as adults do, honestly. o Adults speak facts. o Adults comprehend facts. Adults are funny that way. You acted like a child, Rudy Wieser, in _every_ post in this thread. o That's a fact, Rudy. *If you don't comprehend that fact, it doesn't change that it's a fact.* What you're doing Rudy, is blaming me, for _you_ acting like a child. o When you act like a child, Rudy, I simply point it out. o The fact you _hate_ that I point out that you act like a child doesn't change the fact that you act like a child, Rudy Wieser. When you act like an adult (if it's possible), I'll treat you as an adult. It's children like you, Rudy Wieser, who ruin Usenet for everyone. You bring _nothing_ of value to the potluck picnic that is Usenet, Rudy. o All you bring to the potluck picnic is your worthless **** So far, _every_ post from you was indistinguishable from that of a child. That's a fact - Rudy - whether you ever comprehend it or not; it's a fact. Alienating you, Rudy Wieser, will bring huge advantages to this newsgroup in terms of actually solving difficult technical problems. I _intend_ on alienating you - Rudy Wieser, because you're utterly worthless, so it benefits everyone if you would just go **** somewhere else, Rudy Wieser, and worse, every time you post to Usenet, Rudy Wieser, you always bring your childish ****, which ruins the potluck picnic that is Usenet for the adults on Usenet. If I'm being too clear for you Rudy Wieser, just let me know. Arlencia likes the smell of Boy Scout ass. Not even a faggot, but a worthless perv. |
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