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Old March 21st 18, 09:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
mike[_10_]
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Default Edit registry of non-booting computer?

I booted the 1709 install DVD
Command prompt
regedit

Much to my surprise, the GUI for regedit came up.
But it's not pointed at the hard drive registry.
Is there a way to edit the registry on the drive
that won't boot?

It really has to use the GUI. I'm working remotely
and having another person type arcane commands
that I don't understand
over a bad phone link
to edit a key would be difficult.

Context...
The 1709 upgrade doesn't like one of the installed
programs and locks up at driver load...
Something about not less than or equal...
NO, I don't know anything more. I wasn't there.
I did get lucky and manage to get it fixed, but using regedit
to search the registry
would have made things very much easier.
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Old March 21st 18, 02:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ed Cryer
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Default Edit registry of non-booting computer?

mike wrote:
I booted the 1709 install DVD
Command prompt
regedit

Much to my surprise, the GUI for regedit came up.
But it's not pointed at the hard drive registry.
Is there a way to edit the registry on the drive
that won't boot?

It really has to use the GUI.Â* I'm working remotely
and having another person type arcane commands
that I don't understand
over a bad phone link
to edit a key would be difficult.

Context...
The 1709 upgrade doesn't like one of the installed
programs and locks up at driver load...
Something about not less than or equal...
NO, I don't know anything more.Â* I wasn't there.
I did get lucky and manage to get it fixed, but using regedit
to search the registry
would have made things very much easier.


You should be able to get to CMD from Windows Recovery Options;
including the Repair CD.
http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/ed...ne-windows-re/

Ed

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Old March 21st 18, 02:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Edit registry of non-booting computer?

mike wrote:
I booted the 1709 install DVD
Command prompt
regedit

Much to my surprise, the GUI for regedit came up.
But it's not pointed at the hard drive registry.
Is there a way to edit the registry on the drive
that won't boot?

It really has to use the GUI. I'm working remotely
and having another person type arcane commands
that I don't understand
over a bad phone link
to edit a key would be difficult.

Context...
The 1709 upgrade doesn't like one of the installed
programs and locks up at driver load...
Something about not less than or equal...
NO, I don't know anything more. I wasn't there.
I did get lucky and manage to get it fixed, but using regedit
to search the registry
would have made things very much easier.


Can you take remote control of a computer
that isn't running Windows at the moment ?

I tried the 1709 DVD, ran Command Prompt, ran "regedit"
and to my surprise, there it is, regedit in all its GUI glory.

It's pointed at the config folder on the X: drive, which
is the DVD boot image stuff.

It supports "Loading a Hive".

I can "Load a Hive", navigate to D:\Windows\System32\Config\SYSTEM
and load the hive "CurrentControlSet" and have it added to the
registry display coming from X: . You'll see the hive stuffed into
a similar folder corresponding to X:\Windows\System32\Config\SYSTEM.

Can you work within a Hive like that ? Apparently some people
are happy with this interface. You can save out the Hive later.

*******

A Kaspersky Rescue CD has a Registry Editor. It opens
C:\Windows\System32\Config on its own, when asked. That's because
it is a Linux (Gentoo-like) distro, and the only OS partition it
sees, is the one it used to extract MountVol information and
drive letters. Kaspersky stores AV definition files it downloads,
on the C: drive, and it uses the Pagefile.sys for Linux swap.
(These are examples of changes it makes, when booted.)
The Registry editor on that one, is off to the side and has
a Kaspersky icon.

Here is an experiment from yesterday:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170702..._rescue_10.iso

Anyway, that one is downloading now. 324,018,176 bytes.

Here, I'm using the Kaspersky Registry Editor to check the version in C: partition.

https://s10.postimg.org/w8fdxrzs9/Ka...ws_Version.gif

I believe that registry editor may even be portable and can be taken
to other Linux distros.

Can you remote into a Linux distro ? As a person who remotes
a lot, you probably know the answer to that better than I do.
I hardly remote to stuff at all. It was different when I was
working.

Paul
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Old March 21st 18, 04:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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Default Edit registry of non-booting computer?

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Wed, 21 Mar 2018 01:39:48 -0700, mike
wrote:

I booted the 1709 install DVD
Command prompt
regedit

Much to my surprise, the GUI for regedit came up.
But it's not pointed at the hard drive registry.
Is there a way to edit the registry on the drive
that won't boot?

It really has to use the GUI. I'm working remotely
and having another person type arcane commands
that I don't understand
over a bad phone link
to edit a key would be difficult.

Context...
The 1709 upgrade doesn't like one of the installed
programs and locks up at driver load...
Something about not less than or equal...
NO, I don't know anything more. I wasn't there.
I did get lucky and manage to get it fixed, but using regedit
to search the registry
would have made things very much easier.


Not sure if t his helps, especially since I don't remember the name of
the program, and it was probably winxp or vista, but there was a
registry editor that didn't insist on editing the active registry. You
could tell it took at any address.
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Old March 21st 18, 09:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
mike[_10_]
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Default Edit registry of non-booting computer?

On 3/21/2018 6:54 AM, Paul wrote:
mike wrote:
I booted the 1709 install DVD
Command prompt
regedit

Much to my surprise, the GUI for regedit came up.
But it's not pointed at the hard drive registry.
Is there a way to edit the registry on the drive
that won't boot?

It really has to use the GUI. I'm working remotely
and having another person type arcane commands
that I don't understand
over a bad phone link
to edit a key would be difficult.

Context...
The 1709 upgrade doesn't like one of the installed
programs and locks up at driver load...
Something about not less than or equal...
NO, I don't know anything more. I wasn't there.
I did get lucky and manage to get it fixed, but using regedit
to search the registry
would have made things very much easier.


Can you take remote control of a computer
that isn't running Windows at the moment ?


No, but I can direct him to operate it by phone.

I tried the 1709 DVD, ran Command Prompt, ran "regedit"
and to my surprise, there it is, regedit in all its GUI glory.

It's pointed at the config folder on the X: drive, which
is the DVD boot image stuff.

It supports "Loading a Hive".


On mine, there's a menu option to load a hive, but it's greyed out.


I can "Load a Hive", navigate to D:\Windows\System32\Config\SYSTEM
and load the hive "CurrentControlSet" and have it added to the
registry display coming from X: . You'll see the hive stuffed into
a similar folder corresponding to X:\Windows\System32\Config\SYSTEM.

Can you work within a Hive like that ? Apparently some people
are happy with this interface. You can save out the Hive later.


Can't tell because the option is greyed out and I can't access the hive.

*******

A Kaspersky Rescue CD has a Registry Editor. It opens
C:\Windows\System32\Config on its own, when asked. That's because
it is a Linux (Gentoo-like) distro, and the only OS partition it
sees, is the one it used to extract MountVol information and
drive letters. Kaspersky stores AV definition files it downloads,
on the C: drive, and it uses the Pagefile.sys for Linux swap.
(These are examples of changes it makes, when booted.)
The Registry editor on that one, is off to the side and has
a Kaspersky icon.


It can see both my hard drives...One is win7, one is win10.

That looks interesting. I can view the hive. I'm unwilling to try
to edit it until I build a throw-away system to test.

As a test, I used Kapersky rescue to create a file on the C:
drive of the windows disk. Seemed to work, but it doesn't seem
to have any way to edit a file. "open with" gives me a bunch
of options, but none will let me edit the file. There's gotta be
some text editor with some arcane name buried somewhere in the linux
OS. Would be nice if they disclosed what that might be.

Just for kicks, I tried to run the Kapersky virus scan. It failed to
start. Can't say I'm impressed so far.

Thanks for the inputs. I now have some stuff to work at.

Here is an experiment from yesterday:


https://web.archive.org/web/20170702..._rescue_10.iso


Anyway, that one is downloading now. 324,018,176 bytes.

Here, I'm using the Kaspersky Registry Editor to check the version
in C: partition.

https://s10.postimg.org/w8fdxrzs9/Ka...ws_Version.gif

I believe that registry editor may even be portable and can be taken
to other Linux distros.

Can you remote into a Linux distro ? As a person who remotes
a lot, you probably know the answer to that better than I do.
I hardly remote to stuff at all. It was different when I was
working.


Yes and no.
IF linux is RUNNING and you found and configured a program at each
end, you can remote in. Depends on which version of which distro
of the linux chaos you've implemented. Unlikely that can be done
on the kapersky rescue disk.

I'm not expecting to remote into the dead computer over the internet.
I'm expecting to have the user run the program on his computer that
won't boot and I'll tell him what to type/click.

Thanks, I think the rescue disk might be a useful tool for registry
editing on dead machines.

Paul


 




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