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  #46  
Old September 11th 13, 12:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Downgrading from Win 8


I am soon going to give up trying to tell him things like this. I'm
tired of repeating the same thing over and over. He either doesn't
read carefully what we write or else he is just .... (I'm biting my
tongue here).



LOL!



On 9/11/2013 05:26, Ken Blake wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:00:11 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:



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  #47  
Old September 11th 13, 03:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:46:20 -0400, Juan Wei
wrote:

has written on 9/10/2013 2:45 PM:

Well, If I live beyond the upgrading period for Win7 (XP Pro is
still a year from doing so!) then I guess I'll just have to give up
personal computing or then worry about learning Win 8 --lots of
experienced users around by then :-)


You're missing the point.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO "LEARN WINDOWS 8"!!

You simply make it look and work like Windows 7 and you'll be back in
comfortable territory.

well, I'm just now trying to learn Win 7 -- new computer---
using XP Pro mostly
  #48  
Old September 11th 13, 03:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:26:22 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:00:11 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:46:20 -0400, Juan Wei wrote:

has written on 9/10/2013 2:45 PM:

Well, If I live beyond the upgrading period for Win7 (XP Pro is
still a year from doing so!) then I guess I'll just have to give up
personal computing or then worry about learning Win 8 --lots of
experienced users around by then :-)


You're missing the point.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO "LEARN WINDOWS 8"!!

You simply make it look and work like Windows 7 and you'll be back in
comfortable territory.


+1


I am soon going to give up trying to tell him things like this. I'm
tired of repeating the same thing over and over. He either doesn't
read carefully what we write or else he is just .... (I'm biting my
tongue here).


I'm just now trying to learn Win 7 too.
But, I have a suggestion -- just stop reading anything I post.
Suppose that hadn't occured to you ??
  #49  
Old September 11th 13, 05:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:13:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:26:22 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:00:11 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:46:20 -0400, Juan Wei wrote:

has written on 9/10/2013 2:45 PM:

Well, If I live beyond the upgrading period for Win7 (XP Pro is
still a year from doing so!) then I guess I'll just have to give up
personal computing or then worry about learning Win 8 --lots of
experienced users around by then :-)


You're missing the point.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO "LEARN WINDOWS 8"!!

You simply make it look and work like Windows 7 and you'll be back in
comfortable territory.

+1


I am soon going to give up trying to tell him things like this. I'm
tired of repeating the same thing over and over. He either doesn't
read carefully what we write or else he is just .... (I'm biting my
tongue here).


I'm just now trying to learn Win 7 too.
But, I have a suggestion -- just stop reading anything I post.
Suppose that hadn't occured to you ??



Hadn't occurred to me? I had you killfiled, but then relented and
un-killfiled you. The number of replies quoting your messages is so
great that I see almost all your outrageous messages regardless of
whether you are killfiled or not.



--
Ken Blake
  #50  
Old September 11th 13, 06:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:07:23 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:13:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:26:22 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:00:11 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:46:20 -0400, Juan Wei wrote:

has written on 9/10/2013 2:45 PM:

Well, If I live beyond the upgrading period for Win7 (XP Pro is
still a year from doing so!) then I guess I'll just have to give up
personal computing or then worry about learning Win 8 --lots of
experienced users around by then :-)


You're missing the point.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO "LEARN WINDOWS 8"!!

You simply make it look and work like Windows 7 and you'll be back in
comfortable territory.

+1

I am soon going to give up trying to tell him things like this. I'm
tired of repeating the same thing over and over. He either doesn't
read carefully what we write or else he is just .... (I'm biting my
tongue here).


I'm just now trying to learn Win 7 too.
But, I have a suggestion -- just stop reading anything I post.
Suppose that hadn't occured to you ??


Hadn't occurred to me? I had you killfiled, but then relented and
un-killfiled you. The number of replies quoting your messages is so
great that I see almost all your outrageous messages regardless of
whether you are killfiled or not.


Obviously you're frustrated, but I got a good hearty laugh out of your
remark.

Let me make it clear: a sympathetic laugh.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
  #52  
Old September 11th 13, 08:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:49:10 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:07:23 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:13:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:26:22 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:00:11 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:46:20 -0400, Juan Wei wrote:

has written on 9/10/2013 2:45 PM:

Well, If I live beyond the upgrading period for Win7 (XP Pro is
still a year from doing so!) then I guess I'll just have to give up
personal computing or then worry about learning Win 8 --lots of
experienced users around by then :-)


You're missing the point.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO "LEARN WINDOWS 8"!!

You simply make it look and work like Windows 7 and you'll be back in
comfortable territory.

+1

I am soon going to give up trying to tell him things like this. I'm
tired of repeating the same thing over and over. He either doesn't
read carefully what we write or else he is just .... (I'm biting my
tongue here).

I'm just now trying to learn Win 7 too.
But, I have a suggestion -- just stop reading anything I post.
Suppose that hadn't occured to you ??


Hadn't occurred to me? I had you killfiled, but then relented and
un-killfiled you. The number of replies quoting your messages is so
great that I see almost all your outrageous messages regardless of
whether you are killfiled or not.


Obviously you're frustrated, but I got a good hearty laugh out of your
remark.

Let me make it clear: a sympathetic laugh.



Thanks. Yes, it's frustrating to try to help someone, and have him
totally ignore everything I say (and everything everybody else says
too).

I don't mind clarifying a point if I didn't say it clearly enough the
first time, but I don't want to have the say the same thing over and
over again because he simply pays no attention to it.

We've been treating him as an ignorant newbie who needs help, but
perhaps he's a troll rather than a newbie.

--
Ken Blake
  #53  
Old September 11th 13, 09:10 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Ken Blake has written on 9/11/2013 3:44 PM:

Thanks. Yes, it's frustrating to try to help someone, and have him
totally ignore everything I say (and everything everybody else says
too).

I don't mind clarifying a point if I didn't say it clearly enough the
first time, but I don't want to have the say the same thing over and
over again because he simply pays no attention to it.

We've been treating him as an ignorant newbie who needs help, but
perhaps he's a troll rather than a newbie.


If so, he's rather a good one. I, for one, will stop responding to his
posts.
  #54  
Old September 11th 13, 11:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Hi, Ken.

...perhaps he's a troll rather than a newbie.


Yeah, I've been wanting for a long time to ask: Remember Valorie?

I Replied to one of his first posts and have just been watching from the
sidelines ever since. :(

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3508.0205) in Win8 Pro


"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:49:10 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:07:23 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:13:35 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:26:22 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:00:11 -0600, Ken1943 wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:46:20 -0400, Juan Wei
wrote:

has written on 9/10/2013 2:45 PM:

Well, If I live beyond the upgrading period for Win7 (XP Pro is
still a year from doing so!) then I guess I'll just have to give
up
personal computing or then worry about learning Win 8 --lots of
experienced users around by then :-)


You're missing the point.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO "LEARN WINDOWS 8"!!

You simply make it look and work like Windows 7 and you'll be back
in
comfortable territory.

+1

I am soon going to give up trying to tell him things like this. I'm
tired of repeating the same thing over and over. He either doesn't
read carefully what we write or else he is just .... (I'm biting my
tongue here).

I'm just now trying to learn Win 7 too.
But, I have a suggestion -- just stop reading anything I post.
Suppose that hadn't occured to you ??


Hadn't occurred to me? I had you killfiled, but then relented and
un-killfiled you. The number of replies quoting your messages is so
great that I see almost all your outrageous messages regardless of
whether you are killfiled or not.


Obviously you're frustrated, but I got a good hearty laugh out of your
remark.

Let me make it clear: a sympathetic laugh.



Thanks. Yes, it's frustrating to try to help someone, and have him
totally ignore everything I say (and everything everybody else says
too).

I don't mind clarifying a point if I didn't say it clearly enough the
first time, but I don't want to have the say the same thing over and
over again because he simply pays no attention to it.

We've been treating him as an ignorant newbie who needs help, but
perhaps he's a troll rather than a newbie.

--
Ken Blake

  #55  
Old September 12th 13, 02:11 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:27:40 -0500, "R. C. White"
wrote:

Hi, Ken.

...perhaps he's a troll rather than a newbie.


Yeah, I've been wanting for a long time to ask: Remember Valorie?



I had forgotten. And I was glad I had forgotten. And you had to remind
me? (vbg Just kidding, of course.)


I Replied to one of his first posts and have just been watching from the
sidelines ever since. :(



That's what I should have done.

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  #57  
Old September 12th 13, 03:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
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Well, I'm sorry to take away all the fun about this issue --- but,
according to a "technician" in India or whereever -- if she really
ever understood my questions -- it really took a while --- like
enduring 6 disconnects and an hour of trying to explain what
I needed (i.e. HP Win 7, 64 bit drivers for the machine we bought
for my wife , she told me it was impossible for me to downgrade
because no such drivers were available for this machine.
So it's back to the madness of trying to learn Win 7 and Win 8
at the same time.

wrote in message
...
I'm seriously considering dumping Win 8 from a new computer
and installing either XP Pro or Win 7 very possibly the former--
and keep it on 'til the updates stop nest year and then, if I live
that long, upgrading to Win 7.
Yeah ---laugh all you want -- but, to my actual question:
My understand is that I install the OS then install the drivers
(right?). So, that's fine --if I have the drivers on a disk.
But, suppose I download the drivers ahead of installing the OS --
how then do I get them on the machine?



  #59  
Old September 12th 13, 03:52 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
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charlie wrote:
On 9/11/2013 2:36 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:09:03 -0400, "dadiOH"
wrote:

"Gene Wirchenko" wrote in message

On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 08:31:56 -0500, wrote:

[snip]

Well, If there were floppies that early, they didn't
show on the first PC I heard of. A TRS 80 (latee
1970's) with only input/output was via a cassette tape
recorder.

Keyboard and screen are I/O, too.

The KB certainly was, not so sure if the monitor qualifies. It was
"memory
mapped"; i.e., 1024 KB of RAM were reserved and anything put there was
displayed on the monitor.


Actually, the keyboard was memory-mapped, too.

Memory-mapped I/O is still I/O. The term "memory-mapped I/O" has
been in use for many years.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Floppys were around, starting with a large size 8"? that later was
downsized to the ones RS, Apple, and others used.
Think PDP 8, SWTPC, 8080, and so forth.
(I still miss the toggle switches)


We put dual 8" floppies on a computer we built at work.
No hard drive in the beast, just floppies. But a *huge*
amount of memory, at 256KB or so :-)

The next generation, got storage like ST506, and that meant
we could change to just one 8" floppy.

The first generation of 8" floppies, had a strong software
component. The driver was written in assembler, and some
time constants were hand-tuned in assembler loops. If we
shipped a faster processor, the developer who wrote the
code, had to tune it again :-)

Years later, the final 8" floppy design shipped, was the "deluxe"
version. The floppy was connected to something that was
close to being a SCSI bus. And storage operations were
virtually completely independent of the rest of the box.
You no longer had to worry about interfering with floppy
operations, and could continue working while files were
written to it. By that time, our box was probably unique
in having a 8" floppy drive. The drive was arranged in
such a way, that it could be flipped out of the way, so you
couldn't see it. So if having a floppy drive embarrassed you,
just close the door on the computer and it was hidden.

I had a collection of around 110 of the 8" floppies in my desk
drawer. Just to show how much storage I needed for
day to day work. I also stocked a couple floppy drive
cleaning kits, with the "fake" white fiber cleaning
floppy, and the little packets of alcohol you wet them with.
Occasionally, the drive needed a cleaning.

One funny aspect of the 8 inch floppy, is the drive motor
was AC powered. It meant the computer needed AC wiring
inside the chassis. In the picture here, the AC powered
motor is the one in the lower left corner. It's possible
the final version we shipped, was DC powered like most
other conventional computer storage now. As the final
8" floppy drive was a bit thinner than the originals (Shugart).
I think the motors started to spin, as soon as the AC was
turned on. The motor never stopped.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ive_8_inch.jpg

The 8" floppy was a PITA, because they needed to be calibrated.
We tuned all our computers in the department, to a single
"golden" floppy. All the computers had to be able to read that
floppy, before being issued to users. Which is no way to run
a peripheral... It also meant, if carrying data between home
and work, you formatted the floppy on the work machine, to
guarantee that files written by the home machine, would be
readable at work.

Good times.

Paul
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Old September 12th 13, 04:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.windows7.general
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wrote:
Well, I'm sorry to take away all the fun about this issue --- but,
according to a "technician" in India or whereever -- if she really
ever understood my questions -- it really took a while --- like
enduring 6 disconnects and an hour of trying to explain what
I needed (i.e. HP Win 7, 64 bit drivers for the machine we bought
for my wife , she told me it was impossible for me to downgrade
because no such drivers were available for this machine.
So it's back to the madness of trying to learn Win 7 and Win 8
at the same time.


The only gating item, is laptop style drivers (for when the
LCD panel is connected via LVDS, to the video).

For virtually every other driver issue, there is a solution.

You simply:

1) Do a backup of the original OS.
2) Have at it.

Where is your spirit of adventure ?

Again, this is why we have backups. So you never
have to say you're sorry. You can do anything
you want to the computer, as long as you have
backups to restore from.

Paul


wrote in message
...
I'm seriously considering dumping Win 8 from a new computer
and installing either XP Pro or Win 7 very possibly the former--
and keep it on 'til the updates stop nest year and then, if I live
that long, upgrading to Win 7.
Yeah ---laugh all you want -- but, to my actual question:
My understand is that I install the OS then install the drivers
(right?). So, that's fine --if I have the drivers on a disk.
But, suppose I download the drivers ahead of installing the OS --
how then do I get them on the machine?



 




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