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classic shell vs Retro UI
I have been using Classic Shell for a while in Win 8 and like it very much,
Now I see there is another similar utility out there called Retro UI. Has anyone tried it yet? Is it as good or better than classic shell ? I am not able to try it now as I cleaned out my trial Win 8 RTM. I realize I am asking this a little too soon and may get better responses in a couple weeks, Thanks in advance for any answers anyway. Regards, Rene |
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"Rene Lamontagne" wrote:
I have been using Classic Shell for a while in Win 8 and like it very much, Now I see there is another similar utility out there called Retro UI. Has anyone tried it yet? Is it as good or better than classic shell ? I am not able to try it now as I cleaned out my trial Win 8 RTM. I realize I am asking this a little too soon and may get better responses in a couple weeks, Thanks in advance for any answers anyway. I'll report later after I've tried it but Classic Shell is free and Retro UI is not.... -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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XS11E wrote:
"Rene Lamontagne" wrote: I have been using Classic Shell for a while in Win 8 and like it very much, Now I see there is another similar utility out there called Retro UI. Has anyone tried it yet? Is it as good or better than classic shell ? I am not able to try it now as I cleaned out my trial Win 8 RTM. I realize I am asking this a little too soon and may get better responses in a couple weeks, Thanks in advance for any answers anyway. I'll report later after I've tried it but Classic Shell is free and Retro UI is not.... Full review: It's gone. There's a free trial period, I decided free is better and just deleted it. I did spend a couple of minutes removing Classic Shell, installing Retro UI and couldn't figure out any way to make it work so... it's gone, Classic Shell is now installed and I plan on formatting that partition soon, running Easy BCD to remove the dual boot and that'll be the end of my Win8 experiment. Why? Because I've had nothing but problems trying to install my hardware that all installed in Win7 with no problems and I really don't want to fool with it any more. I may take a look at the final version... -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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XS11E wrote:
XS11E wrote: "Rene Lamontagne" wrote: I have been using Classic Shell for a while in Win 8 and like it very much, Now I see there is another similar utility out there called Retro UI. Has anyone tried it yet? Is it as good or better than classic shell ? I am not able to try it now as I cleaned out my trial Win 8 RTM. I realize I am asking this a little too soon and may get better responses in a couple weeks, Thanks in advance for any answers anyway. I'll report later after I've tried it but Classic Shell is free and Retro UI is not.... Full review: It's gone. There's a free trial period, I decided free is better and just deleted it. I did spend a couple of minutes removing Classic Shell, installing Retro UI and couldn't figure out any way to make it work so... it's gone, Classic Shell is now installed and I plan on formatting that partition soon, running Easy BCD to remove the dual boot and that'll be the end of my Win8 experiment. I have been putting off installing Win8 RTM on my Win7 machine in a dual boot configuration because I wasn't sure about getting rid of the dual boot after I removed Win8. Can you run that by me? -- Crash Today is the first day of the rest of your life, and there's not a damned thing you can do about it. |
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"Dave \"Crash\" Dummy" wrote:
I have been putting off installing Win8 RTM on my Win7 machine in a dual boot configuration because I wasn't sure about getting rid of the dual boot after I removed Win8. Can you run that by me? Easy, I install 'experimental' OSs on a separate partition or on a separate HD. To remove it, I just format the partition or HD where it's installed and it's gone! Now all that's left is to fix the boot menu to remove the unwanted entry, here's two ways to do it: 1. Open a command prompt as administrator and type BCDEDIT to see your boot loader, type BCDEDIT /? for a list of commands that will tell you how to fix/change things or do it the easy way: 2. Download EasyBCD: http://download.cnet.com/EasyBCD/300...-10556865.html Run it to install it and then run it and follow the prompts to remove the entry for the unwanted OS. It's pretty self explanatory! NOTE: One thing you can do is NOT remove the OS and NOT remove the entry from the boot menu but in the Edit tab check the desired OS and check the "Skip the boot menu" box. That leaves the 2nd OS in place but you'll never know it until you re-run EasyBCD and uncheck the box. -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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XS11E wrote:
"Dave \"Crash\" Dummy" wrote: I have been putting off installing Win8 RTM on my Win7 machine in a dual boot configuration because I wasn't sure about getting rid of the dual boot after I removed Win8. Can you run that by me? Easy, I install 'experimental' OSs on a separate partition or on a separate HD. To remove it, I just format the partition or HD where it's installed and it's gone! That part I figured out. :-) Now all that's left is to fix the boot menu to remove the unwanted entry, here's two ways to do it: That was my concern. 1. Open a command prompt as administrator and type BCDEDIT to see your boot loader, type BCDEDIT /? for a list of commands that will tell you how to fix/change things or do it the easy way: 2. Download EasyBCD: http://download.cnet.com/EasyBCD/300...-10556865.html Run it to install it and then run it and follow the prompts to remove the entry for the unwanted OS. It's pretty self explanatory! Thanks. Sounds simple enough even for me. I will probably stick with the include bcdedit utility. I try not to install anything I don't have to. NOTE: One thing you can do is NOT remove the OS and NOT remove the entry from the boot menu but in the Edit tab check the desired OS and check the "Skip the boot menu" box. That leaves the 2nd OS in place but you'll never know it until you re-run EasyBCD and uncheck the box. Not in this case. It is time limited. -- Crash Money may not buy happiness, but it can sure defray a lot of unhappiness. |
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"XS11E" wrote in message ... "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy" wrote: I have been putting off installing Win8 RTM on my Win7 machine in a dual boot configuration because I wasn't sure about getting rid of the dual boot after I removed Win8. Can you run that by me? Easy, I install 'experimental' OSs on a separate partition or on a separate HD. To remove it, I just format the partition or HD where it's installed and it's gone! Now all that's left is to fix the boot menu to remove the unwanted entry, here's two ways to do it: 1. Open a command prompt as administrator and type BCDEDIT to see your boot loader, type BCDEDIT /? for a list of commands that will tell you how to fix/change things or do it the easy way: 2. Download EasyBCD: http://download.cnet.com/EasyBCD/300...-10556865.html Run it to install it and then run it and follow the prompts to remove the entry for the unwanted OS. It's pretty self explanatory! NOTE: One thing you can do is NOT remove the OS and NOT remove the entry from the boot menu but in the Edit tab check the desired OS and check the "Skip the boot menu" box. That leaves the 2nd OS in place but you'll never know it until you re-run EasyBCD and uncheck the box. I wonder. . . I have Win8 installed on a spare drive, and Win7 on the only drive in my laptop. It has space for a second drive (I used slot that to clone my primary shortly after purchasing it). If I installed EasyBCD on the WIn7 drive, then put the Win8 drive in and booted to the primary Win7 drive, do you think I could add the Win8 drive as a boot option? I've used EasyBCD before, but never on something like this. Might be worth a try (after I image my primary). -- SC Tom |
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"Rene Lamontagne" wrote:
I have been using Classic Shell for a while in Win 8 and like it very much, Now I see there is another similar utility out there called Retro UI. Has anyone tried it yet? Is it as good or better than classic shell ? http://retroui.com/pricing.asp $4.95 per license, only a 7-day fully functional trial 3 hosts per license license expires after 1 year, then you buy another license open source support is via web forum & basic contact form just seems to get rid of Metro UI for classic desktop & start menu retroui.com domain registered on 10-Aug-2012 (2 months) current version: 1.0.9 (3 versions: 1st version + 2 subminor versions) http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/ free (donationware) unlimited number of hosts license never expires closed source support is via web forum classic desktop & start menu Windows Explorer addressbar tweaks (multiple classic styles) Windows Explorer toolbar tweaks some IE9 tweaks Sourceforge project registered 28-Nov-2009 (3 years) current version: 3.6.1 (32 versions) |
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"Rene Lamontagne" wrote:
I have been using Classic Shell for a while in Win 8 and like it very much, Now I see there is another similar utility out there called Retro UI. Has anyone tried it yet? Is it as good or better than classic shell ? http://retroui.com/pricing.asp $4.95 per license, only a 7-day fully functional trial 3 hosts per license license expires after 1 year, then you buy another license open source support is via web forum & basic contact form just seems to get rid of Metro UI for classic desktop & start menu retroui.com domain registered on 10-Aug-2012 (2 months) current version: 1.0.9 (3 versions: 1st version + 2 subminor versions) http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/ free (donationware) unlimited number of hosts license never expires closed source support is via web forum classic desktop & start menu Windows Explorer addressbar tweaks (multiple classic styles) Windows Explorer toolbar tweaks some IE9 tweaks Sourceforge project registered 28-Nov-2009 (3 years) current version: 3.6.1 (32 versions) |
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"Rene Lamontagne" wrote in message ... I have been using Classic Shell for a while in Win 8 and like it very much, Now I see there is another similar utility out there called Retro UI. Has anyone tried it yet? Is it as good or better than classic shell ? I am not able to try it now as I cleaned out my trial Win 8 RTM. I realize I am asking this a little too soon and may get better responses in a couple weeks, Thanks in advance for any answers anyway. Regards, Rene I've been trying out another start menu approach, this one runs Windows 7 explorer.exe in Win8. So far it looks pretty good. You can easily switch between Win7 and Win8 explorers. http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/1573...for-windows-8/ |
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"Dave-UK" wrote in message ... "Rene Lamontagne" wrote in message ... I have been using Classic Shell for a while in Win 8 and like it very much, Now I see there is another similar utility out there called Retro UI. Has anyone tried it yet? Is it as good or better than classic shell ? I am not able to try it now as I cleaned out my trial Win 8 RTM. I realize I am asking this a little too soon and may get better responses in a couple weeks, Thanks in advance for any answers anyway. Regards, Rene I've been trying out another start menu approach, this one runs Windows 7 explorer.exe in Win8. So far it looks pretty good. You can easily switch between Win7 and Win8 explorers. http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/1573...for-windows-8/ I like this! I saw your post here, and another by Andre in the Technet forums, and decided to give it a try, and I'll probably keep it (if I keep Windows 8). Since I dislike the Win8 Game scenario, I also brought in a couple of the Win7 ones (Solitaire and Free Cell) using the method described he http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what...-in-windows-8/ If I do much more to it, it'll just be another instance of Win7, so why bother? I've seen a few posts about how much faster Win8 boots than Win7, but I have to disagree. I have Win7 HP 64-bit on one drive, and Win8 Pro 64-bit on another identical drive in my laptop, and I choose what I want to run from the boot menu (no dual boot). Booting to the Win7 is noticeably faster than booting to Win8, even before doing and customization. There may be better memory usage in Win8 than Win7 (I read that somewhere), but I have never run out of memory on either of my Win7 64-bit or 32-bit machines, so that's not a plus for me. I figured, what the heck, for $15 I'll give Win8 a try. Whether or not I'll keep it, I haven't decided yet. -- SC Tom |
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"SC Tom" wrote in message ... "Dave-UK" wrote in message ... I've been trying out another start menu approach, this one runs Windows 7 explorer.exe in Win8. So far it looks pretty good. You can easily switch between Win7 and Win8 explorers. http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/1573...for-windows-8/ I like this! I saw your post here, and another by Andre in the Technet forums, and decided to give it a try, and I'll probably keep it (if I keep Windows 8). The author of that Start menu fix has now written a new method without using Win7 files. I think it's even better, you can switch between desktop and Metro via the mouse-wheel! It's at the beta stage and free at the moment but he will be charging a small fee as it matures. http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/1586...s-back-beta-3/ |
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On 10/23/2012 8:02 AM PT, Dave-UK typed:
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On 10/18/2012 10:31 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
I have been using Classic Shell for a while in Win 8 and like it very much, Now I see there is another similar utility out there called Retro UI. Has anyone tried it yet? Is it as good or better than classic shell ? I am not able to try it now as I cleaned out my trial Win 8 RTM. I realize I am asking this a little too soon and may get better responses in a couple weeks, Thanks in advance for any answers anyway. Regards, Rene I have been reading all of the posts relating to Classic Start so I downloaded it. My main desire was to be able to cut and paste the entries in the menu. I can copy, but when I highlite an menu item where I want to copy the item I do not get a paste option. Dos this (or Cut & Paste) work in this application? |
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:55:48 -0400, Marv wrote:
On 10/18/2012 10:31 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: I have been using Classic Shell for a while in Win 8 and like it very much, Now I see there is another similar utility out there called Retro UI. Has anyone tried it yet? Is it as good or better than classic shell ? I am not able to try it now as I cleaned out my trial Win 8 RTM. I realize I am asking this a little too soon and may get better responses in a couple weeks, Thanks in advance for any answers anyway. Regards, Rene I have been reading all of the posts relating to Classic Start so I downloaded it. My main desire was to be able to cut and paste the entries in the menu. I can copy, but when I highlite an menu item where I want to copy the item I do not get a paste option. Dos this (or Cut & Paste) work in this application? I don't really know what you mean by "highlite an menu item where I want to copy the item", so I'll tell you what I do. I click in an empty part of the file pane of the directory where I wish to copy or move the object, then I choose Paste. By "choose Paste", I mean either I press Ctrl-V or I right click in that area and select Paste from the context menu. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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