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I went to the doctor today. The secretary made me a 6 month follow up
appointment and printed me a reminder. I do know that email is not considered secure. Is anyone working on making email useful and secure? |
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"Metspitzer" wrote in message ... I went to the doctor today. The secretary made me a 6 month follow up appointment and printed me a reminder. I do know that email is not considered secure. Is anyone working on making email useful and secure? ---------- Hackers, Phishers and Spammers ---------- |
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:23:40 -0400, Metspitzer wrote:
I went to the doctor today. The secretary made me a 6 month follow up appointment and printed me a reminder. I do know that email is not considered secure. Is anyone working on making email useful and secure? Look into PGP. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:23:40 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote: I went to the doctor today. The secretary made me a 6 month follow up appointment and printed me a reminder. I do know that email is not considered secure. Is anyone working on making email useful and secure? The mechanisms for making email secure have been available for years, but adoption has been somewhere between slow and stalled. Gene mentioned PGP, but both sides need to support it, and it's not likely that your doctor's office is going to implement it anytime soon, if at all. In related news, reports say that email is dying a fairly quick death, or a slow death, depending on who you believe. Usage is down sharply and continuing to decline. Interpersonal communications have shifted heavily toward social media, (Facebook, Pinterest, etc.), and texting. -- Char Jackson |
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:23:40 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote: I went to the doctor today. The secretary made me a 6 month follow up appointment and printed me a reminder. I do know that email is not considered secure. Is anyone working on making email useful and secure? Just as important is a means of electronically storing one's static biology such as blood grouping, allergies, fingerprints, medical insurance details, past procedures including dental, medications, all on a swipe card - protected by a password - so that booking a hospital stay can be sure and faster. Even biometrics can be so stored. At the moment here this is not available, even if voluntary, so that if the hospital has "upgraded their computer" (a quaint euphemism for lost data)and a tedious slog of form filling and remembering is required. |
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:52:23 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:23:40 -0400, Metspitzer wrote: I went to the doctor today. The secretary made me a 6 month follow up appointment and printed me a reminder. I do know that email is not considered secure. Is anyone working on making email useful and secure? The mechanisms for making email secure have been available for years, but adoption has been somewhere between slow and stalled. Gene mentioned PGP, but both sides need to support it, and it's not likely that your doctor's office is going to implement it anytime soon, if at all. In related news, reports say that email is dying a fairly quick death, or a slow death, depending on who you believe. Usage is down sharply and continuing to decline. Interpersonal communications have shifted heavily toward social media, (Facebook, Pinterest, etc.), and texting. I think email is simply leveling off and good that it is. All the meaningless childish drivel is going where it belongs. I would never think for one second email is dying. How will I be getting my notifications of transactions from banks and purchases made? Stop and think how many ways people use and need email. I can't wait until the Post Office shuts down or at least they provide a trash bin at my mail box. |
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On 15/09/2012 1:41 AM, Gene E. Bloch wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:23:40 -0400, Metspitzer wrote: I went to the doctor today. The secretary made me a 6 month follow up appointment and printed me a reminder. I do know that email is not considered secure. Is anyone working on making email useful and secure? Look into PGP. You have to be rich to use PGP these days. However, GnuPG is free and the same. It's certainly the answer, but Metspitzer uses Forte Agent, and I don't think you can easily incorporate it into Agent - if I remember correctly it's why I switched away from Agent many years back. You have to use a third party program like WinPT - but that method of incorporating the code is deprecated amongst cryptology aficionados. However, it's no big deal to set up Thunderbird for just the e-mail and Thunderbird/Enigmail is the best way to use GnuPG by a country mile. -- Bob Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't. |
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:23:40 -0400, Metspitzer wrote:
I went to the doctor today. The secretary made me a 6 month follow up appointment and printed me a reminder. I do know that email is not considered secure. Is anyone working on making email useful and secure? Printing and handing you a paper reminder is not email. What's the connection? |
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 09:48:28 +0100, Bob Henson
wrote: On 15/09/2012 1:41 AM, Gene E. Bloch wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:23:40 -0400, Metspitzer wrote: I went to the doctor today. The secretary made me a 6 month follow up appointment and printed me a reminder. I do know that email is not considered secure. Is anyone working on making email useful and secure? Look into PGP. You have to be rich to use PGP these days. However, GnuPG is free and the same. It's certainly the answer, but Metspitzer uses Forte Agent, I use Gmail. If I worked for the CIA or something, I might be worried about some spy intercepting my next doctor's appointment. I don't, so I am not. Just send me an email. I will take the security risk. and I don't think you can easily incorporate it into Agent - if I remember correctly it's why I switched away from Agent many years back. You have to use a third party program like WinPT - but that method of incorporating the code is deprecated amongst cryptology aficionados. However, it's no big deal to set up Thunderbird for just the e-mail and Thunderbird/Enigmail is the best way to use GnuPG by a country mile. |
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Per Metspitzer:
I went to the doctor today. The secretary made me a 6 month follow up appointment and printed me a reminder. I do know that email is not considered secure. Is anyone working on making email useful and secure? "Paper-Free by '83" -- Pete Cresswell |
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:08:38 -0400, Allen Drake
wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:52:23 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: In related news, reports say that email is dying a fairly quick death, or a slow death, depending on who you believe. Usage is down sharply and continuing to decline. Interpersonal communications have shifted heavily toward social media, (Facebook, Pinterest, etc.), and texting. I think email is simply leveling off and good that it is. I don't know, but I sure hope that you are right and the reports that Char quotes are not! Stop and think how many ways people use and need email. I can't wait until the Post Office shuts down or at least they provide a trash bin at my mail box. I'm with you entirely. The post office now provides a service that is essentially unneeded. I get almost nothing in my mailbox but junk mail, and I mail almost nothing myself. The only real exception for me is Netflix, and they don't have to use the post office for what they do. It could be streaming using devices like Roku boxes. It's a waste of money. |
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:08:38 -0400, Allen Drake
wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:52:23 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:23:40 -0400, Metspitzer wrote: I went to the doctor today. The secretary made me a 6 month follow up appointment and printed me a reminder. I do know that email is not considered secure. Is anyone working on making email useful and secure? The mechanisms for making email secure have been available for years, but adoption has been somewhere between slow and stalled. Gene mentioned PGP, but both sides need to support it, and it's not likely that your doctor's office is going to implement it anytime soon, if at all. In related news, reports say that email is dying a fairly quick death, or a slow death, depending on who you believe. Usage is down sharply and continuing to decline. Interpersonal communications have shifted heavily toward social media, (Facebook, Pinterest, etc.), and texting. I think email is simply leveling off and good that it is. I meant email usage in general, not just your personal use of it. All the meaningless childish drivel is going where it belongs. I would never think for one second email is dying. First, dying does not mean dead. At your age, email will likely outlast you and therefore you have nothing to worry about. How will I be getting my notifications of transactions from banks and purchases made? Seriously? Have you forgotten the past 100 years? Two things to keep in mind are that when one technology fades away, it usually gets replaced by another technology that's better in some ways, and second, in the worst case you might have to have someone check your mailbox now and then to bring you your mail. Stop and think how many ways people use and need email. I can't wait until the Post Office shuts down or at least they provide a trash bin at my mail box. Millions of people would say the exact same thing about postal mail that you just said about email. -- Char Jackson |
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:35:41 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote: On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:08:38 -0400, Allen Drake wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:52:23 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: In related news, reports say that email is dying a fairly quick death, or a slow death, depending on who you believe. Usage is down sharply and continuing to decline. Interpersonal communications have shifted heavily toward social media, (Facebook, Pinterest, etc.), and texting. I think email is simply leveling off and good that it is. I don't know, but I sure hope that you are right and the reports that Char quotes are not! There's no vast conspiracy to take email away. It's just that many people are no longer using it, or are using it much less than they used to, so in the aggregate the overall volume of email traffic is down sharply, and is expected to continue that downward trend. http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2011/1/Web-based_Email_Shows_Signs_of_Decline_in_the_U.S._Whi le_Mobile_Email_Usage_on_the_Rise http://www.clickz.com/clickz/news/2025027/email-usage-plummets-teens-mobile-social-networking http://allfacebook.com/email-use-declines-59-among-teens-can-messages-surge_b31816 etc. I've seen better sites than those, but those were the first hits that came up just now so I used them as examples. On a personal note, if I send information to my son via email, he'll eventually see it but it can take several months. OTOH, if I send a message via Facebook, he usually replies immediately. His age group, early twenties, is plugged into Facebook almost exclusively. Email is seen as passe, old school, not cool, or whatever you want to call it. Stop and think how many ways people use and need email. I can't wait until the Post Office shuts down or at least they provide a trash bin at my mail box. I'm with you entirely. The post office now provides a service that is essentially unneeded. I get almost nothing in my mailbox but junk mail, and I mail almost nothing myself. The only real exception for me is Netflix, and they don't have to use the post office for what they do. It could be streaming using devices like Roku boxes. It's a waste of money. Millions of people rely on postal mail and have no real alternative. Take it away and they're stranded with nothing. -- Char Jackson |
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 10:41:02 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote: On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:35:41 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 04:08:38 -0400, Allen Drake wrote: On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:52:23 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: In related news, reports say that email is dying a fairly quick death, or a slow death, depending on who you believe. Usage is down sharply and continuing to decline. Interpersonal communications have shifted heavily toward social media, (Facebook, Pinterest, etc.), and texting. I think email is simply leveling off and good that it is. I don't know, but I sure hope that you are right and the reports that Char quotes are not! There's no vast conspiracy to take email away. Of course not. I didn't mean to suggest that you said that. It's just that many people are no longer using it, or are using it much less than they used to, so in the aggregate the overall volume of email traffic is down sharply, and is expected to continue that downward trend. Yes, but if it dwindles sufficiently, it will die. Just as Usenet is dying. On a personal note, if I send information to my son via email, he'll eventually see it but it can take several months. OTOH, if I send a message via Facebook, he usually replies immediately. His age group, early twenties, is plugged into Facebook almost exclusively. Email is seen as passe, old school, not cool, or whatever you want to call it. Passé, old school, not cool--you can call me all those things. g Stop and think how many ways people use and need email. I can't wait until the Post Office shuts down or at least they provide a trash bin at my mail box. I'm with you entirely. The post office now provides a service that is essentially unneeded. I get almost nothing in my mailbox but junk mail, and I mail almost nothing myself. The only real exception for me is Netflix, and they don't have to use the post office for what they do. It could be streaming using devices like Roku boxes. It's a waste of money. Millions of people rely on postal mail and have no real alternative. Take it away and they're stranded with nothing. There are fewer and fewer and fewer all the time. A couple of years ago, I knew lots of people who didn't have an e-mail address. Today, I don't know anyone. And for the few that don't have it, spend the money now spent on post offices, salaries, etc. by giving them inexpensive devices that can get e-mail. |
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Metspitzer wrote:
I went to the doctor today. The secretary made me a 6 month follow up appointment and printed me a reminder. I do know that email is not considered secure. Is anyone working on making email useful and secure? There are probably tens of thousands of people working on those fixes and there are tens of thousands trying to un-work those fixes. Most comments here are for home users. However, businesses rely on email. There is no viable or cost effective alternative. If the company I work for had to do everything via phone like in the old days, the cost of every material object that you buy would go up. Probably 10-15%, at least. |
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