Thinking of updating my MS Office?

Currently using Office 2007 (Ultimate), mainly use Word, Excel, and
Access at home. I understand Office 2019 is about to come out, so I'm
thinking there might be some good deals on Office 2016 soon. Thinking of
going to Office 2016, not interested in the Office 365 subscription
model at all. Also let's not get sidetracked by discussions about
OpenOffice or Google Docs, I use those as well, but you need the actual
MS Office for the most features and most compatibility.

Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in 2007?
I'm talking about new side applications and/or features within the main
applications, for example.

Also I understand that Office 2019 will only work in Windows 10, so does
Office 2016 work in Windows 7 too?

Yousuf Khan

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 13:09:44 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in 2007?
I'm talking about new side applications and/or features within the main
applications, for example.

Most of my colleagues love the OneNote application. Is that available in
Office 2007? I can't give a personal review because it's been on my
"need to try this" list for a couple of years now. I'm just too lazy to
make my life better, I guess.

Also I understand that Office 2019 will only work in Windows 10, so does
Office 2016 work in Windows 7 too?

Yes. I use Office 2016 with Windows 7, 8.1, and 10.

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Char Jackson

Char Jackson wrote:

Yousuf Khan wrote:

Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in
2007? I'm talking about new side applications and/or features within
the main applications, for example.

Get ready for the ribbon bar. Everything you learned about where were
functions in the menus is discarded in having to figure out where it
moved to in the ribbon bar.

Most of my colleagues love the OneNote application.

You don't have to buy OneNote. It is free and available for Windows,
Android, and iOS (Apple).

https://www.onenote.com/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...office.onenote
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/micr...410395246?mt=8

Also I understand that Office 2019 will only work in Windows 10, so
does Office 2016 work in Windows 7 too?

Yes. I use Office 2016 with Windows 7, 8.1, and 10.

Deals don't show up on Microsoft products until about 3 years after a
new version has been *released*. Also, the last version often remains
high for quite awhile. You need to go back 2, or more, versions several
years after the release of a new version to find good deals on old
versions. Most vendors sell only the license key. You have to download
the product (often from Microsoft).

Make sure you get the correct edition. If you're using Outlook, you
don't want to get the Home & Student edition that is missing Outlook.
If you use any of Outlook, Publisher, or Access, you don't want the Home
& Student or Home & Business editions. OneNote is in all editions but
then it is available for free no matter what MSOffice edition you get.

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 16:12:54 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:

Yousuf Khan wrote:

Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in
2007? I'm talking about new side applications and/or features within
the main applications, for example.

Get ready for the ribbon bar. Everything you learned about where were
functions in the menus is discarded in having to figure out where it
moved to in the ribbon bar.

Office 2007 was the one that introduced the ribbon bar.


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Steve Hayes
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http://khanya.wordpress.com

Per Steve Hayes:
Office 2007 was the one that introduced the ribbon bar.

When I was developing ad-hoc Access apps for bond traders (who were using
Office 2003 at the time), people would tell me "If the new app involves my
having to use Office 2007, just forget it...".

I think the Ribbon Bar was the primary culprit.
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Pete Cresswell

On 05/04/2018 13:33, (PeteCresswell) wrote:

I think the Ribbon Bar was the primary culprit.


And you were so stupid that you didn't even think of telling them that
Ribbon is very intuitive if the users have some common sense. Idiots
should stop using all Microsoft products but people with some
intelligence would waste their abilities if they start using those junk
products that are given away free of charge. Microsoft is for the
intelligent person; Linux Junk and associated free products are for the
idiots.

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Windows Defender software.
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On 04/05/2018 08:33 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
I think the Ribbon Bar was the primary culprit.
I didn't like it myself either but got used to it. It's everywhere
now. With all the features they are jambing into programs now, it's
about as bad as all the toolbars they used to have. Kinda 50/50.

On 4/4/2018 3:04 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 13:09:44 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote:

Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in 2007?
I'm talking about new side applications and/or features within the main
applications, for example.

Most of my colleagues love the OneNote application. Is that available in
Office 2007? I can't give a personal review because it's been on my
"need to try this" list for a couple of years now. I'm just too lazy to
make my life better, I guess.

Yes, OneNote is in 2007.

Also I understand that Office 2019 will only work in Windows 10, so does
Office 2016 work in Windows 7 too?

Yes. I use Office 2016 with Windows 7, 8.1, and 10.

Great, I have one Windows 7 notebook that I'm not going to try to bother
to upgrade to Windows 10, I already tried it on it, and a lot of
features stopped working under it, so I restored it back to Windows 7
and have run it ever since.

Yousuf Khan

On 04/04/2018 12:09 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Currently using Office 2007 (Ultimate), mainly use Word, Excel, and
Access at home. I understand Office 2019 is about to come out, so I'm
thinking there might be some good deals on Office 2016 soon. Thinking of
going to Office 2016, not interested in the Office 365 subscription
model at all. Also let's not get sidetracked by discussions about
OpenOffice or Google Docs, I use those as well, but you need the actual
MS Office for the most features and most compatibility.

Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in 2007?
I'm talking about new side applications and/or features within the main
applications, for example.

Also I understand that Office 2019 will only work in Windows 10, so does
Office 2016 work in Windows 7 too?

Â*Â*Â*Â*Yousuf Khan



Unless the new version has some features you really need...no sense in
updating.

Most of the people I know are fine with their ten year old versions.

philo wrote:

On 04/04/2018 12:09 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Currently using Office 2007 (Ultimate), mainly use Word, Excel, and
Access at home. I understand Office 2019 is about to come out, so I'm
thinking there might be some good deals on Office 2016 soon. Thinking of
going to Office 2016, not interested in the Office 365 subscription
model at all. Also let's not get sidetracked by discussions about
OpenOffice or Google Docs, I use those as well, but you need the actual
MS Office for the most features and most compatibility.

Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in 2007?
I'm talking about new side applications and/or features within the main
applications, for example.

Also I understand that Office 2019 will only work in Windows 10, so does
Office 2016 work in Windows 7 too?

****Yousuf Khan

Unless the new version has some features you really need...no sense in
updating.

One caveat: MS Office 2007 has already gone End-of-life.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...le/search/8753

Here's the same information for Office 2016.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...e/search/18412

To the OP: If you aren't already using it, and you need to keep
your Office 2007 installation patched, you might look into
extended support (esr) version (currently, 9.2.4) of WSUS
Offline.
http://www.wsusoffline.net/
The standard version (currently 11.2.1) is extremely useful for
currently-supported MS software.
--
George Ruch
"Is there life in Clovis after Clovis Man?"

On Wed, 04 Apr 2018 17:44:00 -0600, George
wrote:



One caveat: MS Office 2007 has already gone End-of-life.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...le/search/8753

Here's the same information for Office 2016.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...e/search/18412


I recently installed XP as a virtual system on my Win-10 computer. On
XP I installed Office XP.

Interestingly, even though the XP "drive" was not active at the time,
when I used the Win Mini-Update tool, it came up with "Office XP SP3"
update.

I declined. My OfficeXP has been doing everything I want for years.

-dan z-


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a nice contrast to the real world.
(Anonymous)

On 4/4/2018 6:41 PM, philo wrote:
Unless the new version has some features you really need...no sense in
updating.

Most of the people I know are fine with their ten year old versions.

That's what I'm trying to determine. I'm starting to get a bit more
advanced in Access right now, and reading some stuff online, it seems
there's a few extra features in later versions of Access than the one in
2007.

Yousuf Khan

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 17:41:02 -0500, philo wrote:

Unless the new version has some features you really need...no sense in
updating.

Most of the people I know are fine with their ten year old versions.

I've convinced family and friends to use OOo and later LO (LibreOffice).
So far, no complaints...

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s|b

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 13:09:44 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in 2007?

Office 2007 was slow and very buggy. Both conditions were
significantly improved by Service Pack 3. Still, 2016 is a bit
peppier.

I googled "differences Office 2007 and Office 2016" (without quotes,
and got quite a few useful-looking hits, a few of which were actually
relevant. Here are a couple:

https://www.reddit.com/r/microsoft/c...t_worth_it_to_
upgrade_from_office_2007_to/

https://forums.windowssecrets.com/sh...44-Office-365-
vs-Office-2007-work-process-differences-if-any

I personally loathe one aspect of the Excel 2016 interface: every
opened workbook is a separate window, and so to close the program you
have to click the red X multiple times. But then I bought Office 2010
when it was current, and I don't know of any new features in 2013 or
2016 that I really need.

Also I understand that Office 2019 will only work in Windows 10, so
does Office 2016 work in Windows 7 too?

Yes, it does. We have it on virtual machines at work.


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http://OakRoadSystems.com/
Shikata ga nai...

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 22:21:24 -0400, Stan Brown
wrote:

I personally loathe one aspect of the Excel 2016 interface: every
opened workbook is a separate window, [snip]

One of my favorite and most-used features. I frequently have two or more
workbooks open at once and it's very useful to be able to move them
around to any of my 3 displays.

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Char Jackson