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Rene Lamontagne wrote:

I have all the tools including a 6x36 Engine metal turning lathe,

Just curious, what sort of parts do you make with your lathe? I'd love
to be able to justify one, but the lathes I was looking at were on the
order of 12" swing, like I used in high school, with correspondingly
higher prices. And, as you know, the cost of the tooling is not to be
ignored. Maybe someday one will show up at an auction..., but as you
also know, most of them are 3PH (I am familiar with some of the
workarounds).

Bill

On 2020-07-06 8:37 a.m., Bill wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

I have all the tools including a 6x36 Engine metal turning lathe,

Just curious, what sort of parts do you make with your lathe?Â* I'd love
to be able to justify one, but the lathes I was looking at were on the
order of 12" swing, like I used in high school, with correspondingly
higher prices. And, as you know, the cost of the tooling is not to be
ignored.Â* Maybe someday one will show up at an auction..., but as you
also know, most of them are 3PH (I am familiar with some of the
workarounds).

Bill

Sorry for a mistake I made earlier, my lathe was not 6x36, It was a
12x36 Atlas lathe with quick change gearbox and powered wit a 1 HP 120
volt single phase motor.

I bought it in 1964 and paid $900.00 for it, I sold it 4 years ago
for$2700.00 and it still looked and worked like new. Tooling probably
cost me as much as the lathe.

I bought it originally to make parts for astronomical telescopes than
over the years I have machined nearly every thing from truck axles to
35 MM camera parts

As a hobby I built many model steam engines of various types and sizes,
also designed and built a .61 ci model plane engine which runs at 12000
RPM swinging a 12 inch prop

Hope this photo comes out OK

https://i.postimg.cc/W3Tqsr53/60-size-glow-engine.jpg

I have tried making so many things on those machines it's hard to
remember them all but it sure brings back nice memories.

I sold my 112 year old house 4 years ago and moved to an apartment so I
had to part with all those great tools

But I built 2 new desktop computers last fall for my son and I, So I
still get to do stuff even at 86

Rene

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2020-07-06 8:37 a.m., Bill wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

I have all the tools including a 6x36 Engine metal turning lathe,

Just curious, what sort of parts do you make with your lathe?* I'd love
to be able to justify one, but the lathes I was looking at were on the
order of 12" swing, like I used in high school, with correspondingly
higher prices. And, as you know, the cost of the tooling is not to be
ignored.* Maybe someday one will show up at an auction..., but as you
also know, most of them are 3PH (I am familiar with some of the
workarounds).

Bill

Sorry for a mistake I made earlier, my lathe was not 6x36, It was a
12x36 Atlas lathe with quick change gearbox and powered wit a 1 HP 120
volt single phase motor.

I bought it in 1964 and paid $900.00 for it, I sold it 4 years ago
for$2700.00 and it still looked and worked like new. Tooling probably
cost me as much as the lathe.

I bought it originally to make parts for astronomical telescopes than
over the years I have machined nearly every thing from truck axles to
35 MM camera parts

As a hobby I built many model steam engines of various types and sizes,
also designed and built a .61 ci model plane engine which runs at 12000
RPM swinging a 12 inch prop

Hope this photo comes out OK

https://i.postimg.cc/W3Tqsr53/60-size-glow-engine.jpg

I have tried making so many things on those machines it's hard to
remember them all but it sure brings back nice memories.

I sold my 112 year old house 4 years ago and moved to an apartment so I
had to part with all those great tools

But I built 2 new desktop computers last fall for my son and I, So I
still get to do stuff even at 86

Rene

Thanks for sharing, Rene. You continue to amaze me (and I'm sure many
others with me)!

Keep it up and be safe.

Frank

On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 13:17:54 -0700, Alan Baker
wrote:

Tell me:

Is it apathetic if you buy a refrigerator, but don't know how to repair it?

How about a wris****ch?

I could go on a long time, but I suspect you get my point.

An ex-boss of mine had a sign on his desk that said

"never underestimate the power of anything".

It took a long time for me to understand it.

Steve

--
http://www.npsnn.com

On 2020-07-06 9:23 a.m., Frank Slootweg wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2020-07-06 8:37 a.m., Bill wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

I have all the tools including a 6x36 Engine metal turning lathe,

Just curious, what sort of parts do you make with your lathe?Â* I'd love
to be able to justify one, but the lathes I was looking at were on the
order of 12" swing, like I used in high school, with correspondingly
higher prices. And, as you know, the cost of the tooling is not to be
ignored.Â* Maybe someday one will show up at an auction..., but as you
also know, most of them are 3PH (I am familiar with some of the
workarounds).

Bill

Sorry for a mistake I made earlier, my lathe was not 6x36, It was a
12x36 Atlas lathe with quick change gearbox and powered wit a 1 HP 120
volt single phase motor.

I bought it in 1964 and paid $900.00 for it, I sold it 4 years ago
for$2700.00 and it still looked and worked like new. Tooling probably
cost me as much as the lathe.

I bought it originally to make parts for astronomical telescopes than
over the years I have machined nearly every thing from truck axles to
35 MM camera parts

As a hobby I built many model steam engines of various types and sizes,
also designed and built a .61 ci model plane engine which runs at 12000
RPM swinging a 12 inch prop

Hope this photo comes out OK

https://i.postimg.cc/W3Tqsr53/60-size-glow-engine.jpg

I have tried making so many things on those machines it's hard to
remember them all but it sure brings back nice memories.

I sold my 112 year old house 4 years ago and moved to an apartment so I
had to part with all those great tools

But I built 2 new desktop computers last fall for my son and I, So I
still get to do stuff even at 86

Rene

Thanks for sharing, Rene. You continue to amaze me (and I'm sure many
others with me)!

Keep it up and be safe.

Frank


Thanks Frank, look after yourself and family

Rene

On Mon, 06 Jul 2020 15:26:43 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

"never underestimate the power of anything".

Whoops!

I should have quoted my boss correctly!

"never underestimate the power of apathy"

--
http://www.npsnn.com

Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

I should have quoted my boss correctly!

"never underestimate the power of apathy"

Never underestimate stupid people in large numbers.

Rene Lamontagne wrote:

As a hobby I built many model steam engines of various types and sizes,
also designed and built a .61 ci model plane engine which runs at 12000
RPM swinging a 12 inch prop

Hope this photo comes out OK

https://i.postimg.cc/W3Tqsr53/60-size-glow-engine.jpg

Thanks, that's a cool and impressive project! Must have been quite a
plane too! : )

Bill

Mayayana wrote:

An additional cost that many may not be aware of is that national
auto part chains like Auto Zone or Advance are now charging the 66%
mechanic's markup on parts. If a mechanic charges you $100 in parts
it's really $60 + a $40 scam labor charge. Now many auto parts stores
are charging the same $100. I think that started with Toyota official
parts, but it's extended to aftermarket dealers.

I worked in a TV repair shop in the 50's. The retail markup on tubes was
100%. So if we paid $3, the customer was charged $6. If someone wanted
to buy a tube at the local wholesale electronics store to fix his own TV
he was charged the full $6 unless he could show a business license.
Nothing ever really changes (much)...

Bill wrote:

I gave myself a haircut last week (my wife did around the neckline
with scissors), and it came out pretty well, exceeding my
expectations.

I've been giving myself a haircut for decades now. Saving the money is
good but IMO avoiding the hassle of a barber shop is even better...

On 06.07.20 18:22, 123456789 wrote:
Bill wrote:

I gave myself a haircut last week (my wife did around the neckline
with scissors), and it came out pretty well, exceeding my
expectations.

I've been giving myself a haircut for decades now. Saving the money is
good but IMO avoiding the hassle of a barber shop is even better...

+1

123456789 wrote:
Mayayana wrote:

An additional cost that many may not be aware of is that national
auto part chains like Auto Zone or Advance are now charging the 66%
mechanic's markup on parts. If a mechanic charges you $100 in parts
it's really $60 + a $40 scam labor charge. Now many auto parts stores
are charging the same $100. I think that started with Toyota official
parts, but it's extended to aftermarket dealers.

I worked in a TV repair shop in the 50's. The retail markup on tubes was
100%. So if we paid $3, the customer was charged $6. If someone wanted
to buy a tube at the local wholesale electronics store to fix his own TV
he was charged the full $6 unless he could show a business license.
Nothing ever really changes (much)...

Except Apple won't let the local wholesale electronics store to sell the
"tube" [full stop]

--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

123456789 wrote:
[...]

I worked in a TV repair shop in the 50's. The retail markup on tubes was
100%. So if we paid $3, the customer was charged $6. If someone wanted
to buy a tube at the local wholesale electronics store to fix his own TV
he was charged the full $6 unless he could show a business license.
Nothing ever really changes (much)...

Not directly related, but (IMO) rather humourous:

Lately I get ads - and IIRC even ('sollicited') email - for vacuum
tubes. They apparently think "That Slootweg dude is so old, he probably
needs some to fix his radio/amplifier/TV (computer? :-))!".

In case you're interested (Yeah, right!):

https://www.conrad.com/search?search=vacuum%20tube&searchType=regular

Then select 'By lowest price'. Most tubes are on page 2 and further.

On 26/06/2020 20:08, nospam wrote:
it's not immediately obvious, but it's not that hard for those who
might choose to do so.

Out of interest, how is it done, roughly?

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

Frank Slootweg wrote:
123456789 wrote: [...]

I worked in a TV repair shop in the 50's. The retail markup on
tubes was 100%. So if we paid $3, the customer was charged $6. If
someone wanted to buy a tube at the local wholesale electronics
store to fix his own TV he was charged the full $6 unless he could
show a business license. Nothing ever really changes (much)...

Not directly related, but (IMO) rather humourous:

Lately I get ads - and IIRC even ('sollicited') email - for vacuum
tubes. They apparently think "That Slootweg dude is so old, he
probably needs some to fix his radio/amplifier/TV (computer? :-))!".

In case you're interested (Yeah, right!):

https://www.conrad.com/search?search=vacuum%20tube&searchType=regular

Then select 'By lowest price'. Most tubes are on page 2 and
further.

IIRC it was the late 50's when public tube testing machines started
showing up in retail drug stores. When the layman's TV busted he took
ALL of the tubes out and went to the store and tested them. When he
found any bad ones he called the sales person over who unlocked the
bottom of the machine, got the new tubes out, and sold them (often more
than one) to him. Then he went home and plugged them back in and prayed
that the TV was fixed.

Course tube testers, even the ones we had in the shop, were very
unreliable in those days. They would often call a tube bad or weak that
still worked fine in service. So those poor suckers often bought more
tubes than needed, and sometimes they still showed up at our shop with
the TV still busted.

How did we test tubes in the shop? We took a new one off the shelf,
plugged it in, and if the TV worked that was the problem. On house calls
we carried most of the common tubes of the day with us to do just that.
If we didn't have the right tube, darn - it needed to go to the shop.

A little more nostalgia from that era: There was a mail order tube
company called Major Brand Tubes that sold tubes with a lifetime
warranty. Trouble is the tubes were such poor quality they seldom lasted
a month. But they made good on the warranty. You send them the bad tube
and they send you a new one, no charge except YOU pay the postage.
Trouble is after several exchanges the postage was more than than a
quality name brand tube so folks usually gave up...