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  #16  
Old September 24th 18, 08:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware
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Default Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linux filesystems on dual-boot desktops

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 18:31:07 +0100, Mick Finnlay
wrote:

Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 09/24/2018 9:11 AM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:03:25 +0100, Mick Finnlay wrote:

Click on the Folder Up icon next (left) to the edit field with
"Computer\" in it until you get a screen where all logical drives and
also the physical disks are listed. If you have a non-encrypted ext2/3/4
partition on your HD(s) it should be listed there. Double click to open.

Thanks. Please see the note by "Shadow" to your post elsewhere in this
thread.

I already clicked everything I could think of, where 7-zip does not seem to
even "see" any of the dual-boot Linux partitions.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=51629247zip.jpg

At least 7zip didn't work for me where my dual boot setup is 100% standard.

Can a third person try it out to report back for the team?


Yes, same results here, All I can get are all my windows drives and DVD
ROM, no sign of my Linux installation no matter what I click or open.


I rechecked and I can see and read my ext4 partitions if I right-click
on the PhysicalDriveX that has them and select Open Inside #. This gives
a list with all the partitions on the drive and double-clicking an entry
in turn opens a view with all the files and directories in the root.


You are correct.
If I place

\\.\PhysicalDrive0\

In the location, I can see my Linux partitions.

\\.\PhysicalDrive0\6.img\

Will give me my Devuan install, but it's VERY slow compared to
ext2fs. Takes 2 minutes to load it .... but once it's open, it quite
fast to copy and paste a file into windows.
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  #17  
Old September 24th 18, 08:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware
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Default Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linux filesystems on dual-boot desktops

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 16:06:55 -0300, Shadow wrote:

If I place

\\.\PhysicalDrive0\

In the location, I can see my Linux partitions.

\\.\PhysicalDrive0\6.img\


No matter what I do, (even when I place "\\.\PhysicalDrive0\" in the
loction), I don't see my Ubuntu 18.04 partition (which I think is ext3 by
default) on my primary drive (which shows up in Windows 10 Disk
Management).
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=22624027zip_help.jpg

I'm using 7-Zip version 16.04 (64-bit).

When I right click on the "C" drive, and hit "Open Inside", I just get what
Windows can see on the C drive. (Placing "\\.\PhysicalDrive0\" in the
location doesn't seem to change what 7zip can see, for me.)
  #18  
Old September 24th 18, 09:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware
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Default Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linuxfilesystems on dual-boot desktops

On 09/24/2018 2:49 PM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 16:06:55 -0300, Shadow wrote:

If I place

\\.\PhysicalDrive0\

In the location, I can see my Linux partitions.

\\.\PhysicalDrive0\6.img\


No matter what I do, (even when I place "\\.\PhysicalDrive0\" in the
loction), I don't see my Ubuntu 18.04 partition (which I think is ext3 by
default) on my primary drive (which shows up in Windows 10 Disk
Management).
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=22624027zip_help.jpg

I'm using 7-Zip version 16.04 (64-bit).

When I right click on the "C" drive, and hit "Open Inside", I just get what
Windows can see on the C drive. (Placing "\\.\PhysicalDrive0\" in the
location doesn't seem to change what 7zip can see, for me.)


I couldn't see mine either until I ran it in Administrator mode, Now it
shows up OK. so I went into 7 Zip properties compatibility and
checked the run as administrator box so I don't have to do it each time.

Rene

  #19  
Old September 25th 18, 04:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware
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Default Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linux filesystems on dual-boot desktops

The details for the tribal knowledge archives are in this thread:
http://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/EOP3G3NM/quick-assessment-of-3-windows-tools-to-read-write-linux-filesystems-on-dual-boot-desktops

A quick summary of Windows tools that read Linux dual-boot partitions a
1. *7-zip*
http://7-zip.org/download.html
2. *Linux Reader*
https://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/
3. *Ext2Read*
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/
4. *Ext2Fsd*
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/files/Ext2fsd/0.69/
5. *Ext4Explorer*
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext4explore/?source=directory
6. *Paragon*
https://www.paragon-software.com/business/extfs-for-windows/

If you know of other Windows tools (particular FOSS) that read from and
write to your Linux partitions on your dual-boot desktop, let us know so
that we all benefit from your knowledge and experience, as always.
  #20  
Old September 25th 18, 05:05 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware
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Default Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linux filesystemson dual-boot desktops

Mick Finnlay wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 09/24/2018 9:11 AM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 15:03:25 +0100, Mick Finnlay wrote:

Click on the Folder Up icon next (left) to the edit field with
"Computer\" in it until you get a screen where all logical drives and
also the physical disks are listed. If you have a non-encrypted ext2/3/4
partition on your HD(s) it should be listed there. Double click to open.
Thanks. Please see the note by "Shadow" to your post elsewhere in this
thread.

I already clicked everything I could think of, where 7-zip does not seem to
even "see" any of the dual-boot Linux partitions.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=51629247zip.jpg

At least 7zip didn't work for me where my dual boot setup is 100% standard.

Can a third person try it out to report back for the team?

Yes, same results here, All I can get are all my windows drives and DVD
ROM, no sign of my Linux installation no matter what I click or open.


I rechecked and I can see and read my ext4 partitions if I right-click
on the PhysicalDriveX that has them and select Open Inside #. This gives
a list with all the partitions on the drive and double-clicking an entry
in turn opens a view with all the files and directories in the root.

HTH.


Go to the Program Files folder where 7ZFM.exe is located.

Right-click it and "Run As Administrator"

Then, repeat the experiments.

It took going back and reading Micks post a couple
times until it dawned on me "hmmm sector level".

*******

This namespace required the same permissions as using dd.exe
Windows port. To gain physical access to a hard drive at the
sector level with dd.exe, you have to be administrator. The
same applies to 7ZIP parsing the disk at the sector level.

In this picture, you can see this EXT4 partition opened.

\\.\PhysicalDrive2\2.img\

https://i.postimg.cc/Hxq3pkK1/7_ZIP_...inistrator.gif

The speed with which it opens a partition, varies a lot.
This capability might have existed in 16.04, but the
program seemed to be pulling structure into RAM rather
than using its usual stream-like semantics. This could
exhaust the machine to the point of freezing it. Don't
wait too long to do something about it :-) If the program
won't "cancel" when you cancel the operation, reach for
the hammer in Task Manager and aim for 7zFM.

Paul
  #21  
Old September 25th 18, 11:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware
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Default Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linux filesystems on dual-boot desktops

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 07:20:58 +0100, frank_n_2017
wrote:

On 2018/09/24 15:11, Arlen H. Holder wrote:
Can a third person try it out to report back for the team?



7-zip works as advertised but the Linux partitions must first get a
letter to be accessible from it. For that you will need ext2fsd.


No, I read them with 7-Zip without ext2fsd.
And they don't get a letter, they get the partition's location
(for want of a better name)
Ex
\\.\PhysicalDrive0\4.img\
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  #22  
Old September 25th 18, 04:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware
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Default Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linux filesystems on dual-boot desktops

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 07:53:04 -0300, Shadow wrote:

No, I read them with 7-Zip without ext2fsd.


Thanks for confirming 7-zip works great, which a bunch of others confirmed.
Since most of us already have 7-zip installed, it's a _great_ solution!

Mine won't work but I believe that everyone else's is working where I
likely have too many of these things concurrently installed (hence the
errors I get as administrator of conflicts).

I'll uninstall everything, including 7-zip, and then re-install just 7-Zip
to run the 7-Zip GUI shortcut with Administrator privileges, to confirm for
me what I believe to be the case based on what everyone already said.

*Given that, the simple answer is that 7-zip is, IMHO, a great solution.*

If I first apologize for only testing each for a few minutes' use, for home
use, I rank the half-dozen suggestions as follows:
1. *7-zip*
http://7-zip.org/download.html
2. *Linux Reader*
https://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/
3. *Ext2Read*
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/
4. *Ext2Fsd*
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/files/Ext2fsd/0.69/
5. *Ext4Explorer*
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext4explore/?source=directory
6. *Paragon*
https://www.paragon-software.com/business/extfs-for-windows/

NOTE: This is a _great_ example of how, together, we learn far more than we
can alone - especially when the worthless trolls stay away from the thread.
  #23  
Old September 25th 18, 04:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware
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Default Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linux filesystems on dual-boot desktops

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 00:05:46 -0400, Paul wrote:

It took going back and reading Micks post a couple
times until it dawned on me "hmmm sector level".


Thanks for finding that sector-level data, Paul.

I'm still a bit confused as to which of the half-dozen programs that can
*read* the dual-boot-linux partitions can also *write* to them without
corruption.

Does anyone here know, offhand, from your own experience, which of the half
dozen also *write* reliably to those partitions?
1. *7-zip*
http://7-zip.org/download.html
2. *Linux Reader*
https://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/
3. *Ext2Read*
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/
4. *Ext2Fsd*
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/files/Ext2fsd/0.69/
5. *Ext4Explorer*
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext4explore/?source=directory
6. *Paragon*
https://www.paragon-software.com/business/extfs-for-windows/
  #24  
Old September 25th 18, 05:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware
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Default Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linuxfilesystems on dual-boot desktops

On 2018/09/25 11:53, Shadow wrote:
No, I read them with 7-Zip without ext2fsd.
And they don't get a letter, they get the partition's location
(for want of a better name)
Ex
\\.\PhysicalDrive0\4.img\



Thanks, Shadow, first time ever I see this and it works indeed in
7zip.

It is something peculiar to 7zip, Windows Explorer refuses to take
seriously \\.\PhysicalDrive0\.

When you manage to assign a letter to a Linux partition via ext2fsd or
otherwise, you can access the ext-partition from any file manager
under Windows.

frank
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Old September 25th 18, 05:52 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 17:40:40 +0100, frank_n_2017
wrote:

On 2018/09/25 11:53, Shadow wrote:
No, I read them with 7-Zip without ext2fsd.
And they don't get a letter, they get the partition's location
(for want of a better name)
Ex
\\.\PhysicalDrive0\4.img\



Thanks, Shadow, first time ever I see this and it works indeed in
7zip.

It is something peculiar to 7zip, Windows Explorer refuses to take
seriously \\.\PhysicalDrive0\.


No idea. I just fiddled around until it appeared.

When you manage to assign a letter to a Linux partition via ext2fsd or
otherwise, you can access the ext-partition from any file manager
under Windows.


Yes. And it's instant. 7-Zip takes ages to "mount"the
partition.
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Old September 25th 18, 06:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Arlen H. Holder wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 07:53:04 -0300, Shadow wrote:

No, I read them with 7-Zip without ext2fsd.


Thanks for confirming 7-zip works great, which a bunch of others confirmed.
Since most of us already have 7-zip installed, it's a _great_ solution!

Mine won't work but I believe that everyone else's is working where I
likely have too many of these things concurrently installed (hence the
errors I get as administrator of conflicts).

I'll uninstall everything, including 7-zip, and then re-install just 7-Zip
to run the 7-Zip GUI shortcut with Administrator privileges, to confirm for
me what I believe to be the case based on what everyone already said.

*Given that, the simple answer is that 7-zip is, IMHO, a great solution.*

If I first apologize for only testing each for a few minutes' use, for home
use, I rank the half-dozen suggestions as follows:
1. *7-zip*
http://7-zip.org/download.html
2. *Linux Reader*
https://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/
3. *Ext2Read*
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/
4. *Ext2Fsd*
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/files/Ext2fsd/0.69/
5. *Ext4Explorer*
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext4explore/?source=directory
6. *Paragon*
https://www.paragon-software.com/business/extfs-for-windows/

NOTE: This is a _great_ example of how, together, we learn far more than we
can alone - especially when the worthless trolls stay away from the thread.


If 7ZIP isn't working, you could try a different version.

The other possibility, is there's something wrong with the
EXT4 file system and maybe it needs an FSCK. Don't forget that
some Linux distros shut down "in a hurry" without dismounting
the root file system properly. They do this, because they
know the journal and a "clean" operation at boot, will fix
the mess.

Paul
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Old September 25th 18, 06:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linux filesystemson dual-boot desktops

frank_n_2017 wrote:
On 2018/09/25 11:53, Shadow wrote:
No, I read them with 7-Zip without ext2fsd.
And they don't get a letter, they get the partition's location
(for want of a better name)
Ex
\\.\PhysicalDrive0\4.img\



Thanks, Shadow, first time ever I see this and it works indeed in
7zip.

It is something peculiar to 7zip, Windows Explorer refuses to take
seriously \\.\PhysicalDrive0\.

When you manage to assign a letter to a Linux partition via ext2fsd or
otherwise, you can access the ext-partition from any file manager under
Windows.

frank


That technology is called "Installable File System" or IFS.

It allows Windows to understand a foreign file system,
by installing a file system driver for it.

And because it "converts" the foreign file system to look
like a local file system, you can assign a drive letter,
do reads and writes and so on.

The 7ZIP capability still uses a file system driver (of
sorts), but the file system is not mounted and only
exists in the 7ZIP window. Since 7ZIP loves to set up
multi-layer streaming "extractions", it takes time to
collect the information it needs during its mounting/parsing
phase. When it opens regular archives, this operation can
be "fast" because the archive has a file table down at
the end.

Since source isn't available for the versions of 7ZIP we
use, it's hard to say what the code is doing when it takes
so long. But rest assured the developer keeps playing with
that code, because the behavior changes with release number.

Paul
  #28  
Old September 25th 18, 09:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linux filesystems on dual-boot desktops

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 13:29:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

If 7ZIP isn't working, you could try a different version.


Hi Paul,
It's more pernicious than just the version, but I'm not at all worried
about the problem since it has been confirmed by reliable people that 7-Zip
works fine to read dual-boot Linux disks.

I got 7-zip to work to read the Linux disk, but then I kept getting a
conflict error when I tried to write up and screenshot and document the
steps for everyone to benefit (as I normally do).

Even after multiple reboots, I got those conflicts, so I just deleted
everything that I had installed and I'll start fresh - but - I want to be
clear - I'm not at all worried since I'm sure it's not normal to be
accessing the linux disks from so many concurrent ext3 readers
simultaneously.

The other possibility, is there's something wrong with the
EXT4 file system and maybe it needs an FSCK. Don't forget that
some Linux distros shut down "in a hurry" without dismounting
the root file system properly. They do this, because they
know the journal and a "clean" operation at boot, will fix
the mess.


I'm using Windows 10 and Ubuntu 18.04 precisely because that's what most
people use, where I _could_ have corrupted the ext3 filesystem during my
experiements over the course of a day or so.

Again, I'm not at all worried about that, as the main reason for this
thread has been accomplished, which was, and is always...
1. To disseminate my knowledge, and,
2. To learn from all your knowledge.

That way, we're all more powerful together, than we are alone.
I think this thread accomplished that main set of goals.

Thank you all, for suggesting the highly non-intuitive solution of 7-zip,
which, once you know the tricks, is fantastic I'm sure!
  #29  
Old September 27th 18, 08:46 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware
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"Arlen H. Holder"
news alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

I dual boot Windows/Ubuntu because Ubuntu 18.04 natively provides
simultaneous full and complete read and write access to the
entire visible file system of Windows, Android, and iOS.


You should not be using Linux to write to an NTFS file system if you
can avoid doing so...It's best to let Windows manage it's own file
system as far as writes are concerned.

However, I'm mostly on Windows, where, unfortunately, Windows
natively will NOT read the default Linux file system (neither will
the Mac).


Windows won't out of the box, no. But, you have options to give it
that functionality. I strongly recommend that you ONLY use it for
READING your NTFS partitions while under linux. NOT writing to them,
unless you have no other choice. As in, you forgot your windows
password and aren't comfortable editing the sam file yourself to
void the password and let you back into your machine.

The NTFS file system has gone through revisions throughout the years
and it's a closed source proprietary file system. Any access to it,
reading and/or writing by 3rd party apps not officially licensed by
Microsoft is done via reverse engineering efforts alone.

No, having the leaked source code to windows 2000 will not help you
write a universal linux based ntfs partition read/writing driver.
Windows 2000 NTFS and Windows XP for example ARE different. Vista
and up is that much more.

Thanks to Aragorn on the Linux newsgroup, I found out today that
both Windows and the Mac will easily read/write the Linux native
filesystem if you load free software to do so (some of which is
even open source).

To that end, today I quickly tested these Windows solutions below:
1. https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/
2. https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/files/Ext2fsd/0.69/
3. https://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/


How long have you been using computers did you say?

Specifically, I downloaded, extracted & ran these 3 executables:
1.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/files/latest/download
2.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/files/latest/download
3. https://www.diskinternals.com/download/Linux_Reader.exe

Here is my initial first-pass quick-test assessment, for your
benefit, of those three solutions, where I ask anyone with
*experience* using any of these three programs to access their
dual-boot Linux partitions, to further our combined tribal
knowledge.


I have extensive experience using them along with my own custom
written software....Primarily developed to assist in data recovery
for NTFS based file systems.

*ext2fsd*
This automatically creates a drive letter for your Linux
filesystem. The GUI was kind of miserable (e.g., it wouldn't even
resize properly). I'm sure it can do the stated task, but it has a
steep learning curve.


Define steep?

*LinuxReader*
I kind of like the GUI of the last one the best, at least upon 1st
use. It presents your Linux and Windows disks in a familiar "My
Computer" style. When you want to copy a file from Linux to
Windows, you just hit "Save".


You'd be better off using another drive, formatted in an OS
universal friendly file system, say fat32. and swap your files
between those OSEs using that. Instead of placing your NTFS file
system in harms way each time you issue a write command do it from
outside of Windows.

Really, all joking aside, ask some other tech background people
(especially data recovery experts) the game of russian roulette your
not only playing by writing to your NTFS partition(s) under linux,
but encouraging others to do so.

Let Windows manage NTFS, Don't expect that of Linux. It'll do it's
best, but it could cost you everything on the NTFS partition if (a)
you don't have reliable backups and (b) know next to nothing of file
systems internal structures (Based on your usenet posts so far, it's
a safe bet you couldn't rebuild a wrecked NTFS file system without
considerable hand holding and software recommendations.)

Since the price of freeware is the effort it takes to find the
best ones, my quick test clearly indicates I should likely first
spend my learning efforts on the "LinuxReader" and to ditch the
other two (unless there's a reason I learn later to do otherwise).


Are you using these newsgroups as your own personal playground to
bounce ideas around or something? You chastise and ridicule various
posters when you ask for their advice/help, yet, act like such a
****ing n00b with posts like this one.

Not only n00b attitude, but very BAD advice being offered.

For those who aren't as dumb as Arlen and know a thing or two about
that box sitting in front of them, please, if you care about the
data on your Windows partition(s), don't issue very many write
commands to them from any particular Linux distro. You should write
very conservatively outside of Windows and ONLY when necessary.

Otherwise, let Windows write to it's own file system. If you feel
you must be able to share between both, since you're dual booting.
Create a fat32 partition. They can both, SAFELY read and write to it
without presenting any risk to the data on it or other partitions.

PS: Was there a particular reason you crossposted this thread to all
of these newsgroups:

alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7 .general,alt.comp.freeware

And intentionally set the followup to:
Followup-To: alt.comp.os.windows-10

Doing that could easily give one or more people (myself included)
the impression you're trolling for attention, again?

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Old September 27th 18, 08:46 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.freeware
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"Arlen H. Holder"
news alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

The "problem" with LinuxReader might be that it's apparently read
only.


That's NOT a problem. The author of the program knows how risky it is
to perform writes of any kind on NTFS...

You have to understand that NTFS isn't public/open source.
Documentation on it is sketcky on a good day. Those who have reliable
docs are under an NDA. Any drivers you find on linux that can read
and or write to NTFS is due entirely to 3rd party reverse engineering
efforts. Reverse engineering isn't perfect. Some things can be
missed. Changes in the NTFS file system are known to occur from time
to time. Some are larger than others, but, any is enough to make a
driver unsafe to use for writing.

XP and Vista for example are not using the same version of NTFS.

I also found Paragon payware, where they seem to be the go-to guys
for commercial solutions on both Windows & the Mac:
https://www.paragon-software.com/business/extfs-for-windows/


I can highly recommend their apps if you have a serious need for
their usage. They aren't relying on 3rd party reverse engineering
efforts to read or write NTFS. They have MS documentation and their
blessing.


As you're all well aware, the expense of freeware is almost all in
the choosing of the best ones, so my "added value" to the team is
simply those initial insights - where I ask for more insight from
experienced users.


That isn't always the only expense. Depending on the value of data
that can be lost from using freeware (or payware for that matter)
might supersede it's value.

However, my weapon of choice to READ (not write!) ext/2/3/4 is
7-Zip. Both the command line program (7z.exe) and the 7z file
manager (7zFM.exe) support full read access to physical drives
(and files) in ext2/3/4 format. I've never seen the need to use
any other tool for that purpose. And I would never use a Windows
app to WRITE to an ext2/3/4 file system.


Wow! That's a neat idea, if it works!


It does. You'll notice, they specifically (like myself) do NOT
encourage the use of ANY linux based software to WRITE to any NTFS
based file system. There IS a valid reason for that.

Thank you for potentially furthering our knowledge. I already had
7Zip so I brought up the GUI, but it's not obvious to me what's
the first step after bringing up 7Zip on Windows to access a
foreign file system such as the dual-boot Linux partition is:
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=56940667zip.png


You keep using our/we, etc.. Do you have a turd in your pocket or
something? On this thread, I haven't seen you contribute tribal
knowledge (wtf is that exactly?). I've seen various others share
(except for 7zip, I'll give you that's probably not completely common
knowledge, but it is mentioned in their faq; if anybody reads those
(I do) what I consider to be common knowledge and vary sound advice.

Can you give us a hint as to the next step in 7Zip to access the
Linux partitions under a typical dual-boot of Windows 10 and
Ubuntu 18.04?


Is google broken?

What exactly are you calling a typical dual boot configuration? I'll
give you a cluebyfour for free, no charge. not even shipping and
handling; there's no such thing. Each one is going to be a little
different, based on internal hardware and drive geometry differences.
Not to mention user choice when it comes to kernel selection on
Ubuntu.

I'll let you slide on those pesky details because I haven't seen you
claim to be anything more than a power level end user. Had you
claimed to be a technician or something instead, I'd show you no
mercy.


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