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Jason Thomas wrote:
i sort of use both ISC and router. here is my connection: The XBOX 360 is plugged into an ethernet cord which plugs into my windows xp panasonic laptop, which wirelessly connects the the linksys wrt54g router, which connects to my repeater, which connects the the ISP. i have also tried all of the IP Address from 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254. what i would really like to know is where is the problem, the XBOX 360, the Laptop, or the Router. also: the wierdest thing is, on saturday, i went to a friends with my harddrive to my XBOX 360, brought it back, plugged my XBOX 360 into my laptop, and my XBOX Live worked...I turned the XBOX off, then turned it back on, and i had the same problem. This leads me to think the problem is the XBOX but i dont know for sure. another thing: the day i upgraded my microsoft to service pack three was the day my XBOX started failing the IP Confirm Test. i dont know what service pack three did. I'm not sure what to suggest. Perhaps you would have better luck asking in microsoft.public.xbox.live (because you're using the web interface, http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&lang=en&cr=us) -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm |
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Jason Thomas wrote:
i sort of use both ISC and router. here is my connection: The XBOX 360 is plugged into an ethernet cord which plugs into my windows xp panasonic laptop, which wirelessly connects the the linksys wrt54g router, which connects to my repeater, which connects the the ISP. i have also tried all of the IP Address from 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254. what i would really like to know is where is the problem, the XBOX 360, the Laptop, or the Router. also: the wierdest thing is, on saturday, i went to a friends with my harddrive to my XBOX 360, brought it back, plugged my XBOX 360 into my laptop, and my XBOX Live worked...I turned the XBOX off, then turned it back on, and i had the same problem. This leads me to think the problem is the XBOX but i dont know for sure. another thing: the day i upgraded my microsoft to service pack three was the day my XBOX started failing the IP Confirm Test. i dont know what service pack three did. I'm not sure what to suggest. Perhaps you would have better luck asking in microsoft.public.xbox.live (because you're using the web interface, http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&lang=en&cr=us) -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm |
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ok ill post this there too.
"Lem" wrote: Jason Thomas wrote: i sort of use both ISC and router. here is my connection: The XBOX 360 is plugged into an ethernet cord which plugs into my windows xp panasonic laptop, which wirelessly connects the the linksys wrt54g router, which connects to my repeater, which connects the the ISP. i have also tried all of the IP Address from 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254. what i would really like to know is where is the problem, the XBOX 360, the Laptop, or the Router. also: the wierdest thing is, on saturday, i went to a friends with my harddrive to my XBOX 360, brought it back, plugged my XBOX 360 into my laptop, and my XBOX Live worked...I turned the XBOX off, then turned it back on, and i had the same problem. This leads me to think the problem is the XBOX but i dont know for sure. another thing: the day i upgraded my microsoft to service pack three was the day my XBOX started failing the IP Confirm Test. i dont know what service pack three did. I'm not sure what to suggest. Perhaps you would have better luck asking in microsoft.public.xbox.live (because you're using the web interface, http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&lang=en&cr=us) -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm |
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ok ill post this there too.
"Lem" wrote: Jason Thomas wrote: i sort of use both ISC and router. here is my connection: The XBOX 360 is plugged into an ethernet cord which plugs into my windows xp panasonic laptop, which wirelessly connects the the linksys wrt54g router, which connects to my repeater, which connects the the ISP. i have also tried all of the IP Address from 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254. what i would really like to know is where is the problem, the XBOX 360, the Laptop, or the Router. also: the wierdest thing is, on saturday, i went to a friends with my harddrive to my XBOX 360, brought it back, plugged my XBOX 360 into my laptop, and my XBOX Live worked...I turned the XBOX off, then turned it back on, and i had the same problem. This leads me to think the problem is the XBOX but i dont know for sure. another thing: the day i upgraded my microsoft to service pack three was the day my XBOX started failing the IP Confirm Test. i dont know what service pack three did. I'm not sure what to suggest. Perhaps you would have better luck asking in microsoft.public.xbox.live (because you're using the web interface, http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&lang=en&cr=us) -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm |
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ok ill post this there too.
"Lem" wrote: Jason Thomas wrote: i sort of use both ISC and router. here is my connection: The XBOX 360 is plugged into an ethernet cord which plugs into my windows xp panasonic laptop, which wirelessly connects the the linksys wrt54g router, which connects to my repeater, which connects the the ISP. i have also tried all of the IP Address from 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254. what i would really like to know is where is the problem, the XBOX 360, the Laptop, or the Router. also: the wierdest thing is, on saturday, i went to a friends with my harddrive to my XBOX 360, brought it back, plugged my XBOX 360 into my laptop, and my XBOX Live worked...I turned the XBOX off, then turned it back on, and i had the same problem. This leads me to think the problem is the XBOX but i dont know for sure. another thing: the day i upgraded my microsoft to service pack three was the day my XBOX started failing the IP Confirm Test. i dont know what service pack three did. I'm not sure what to suggest. Perhaps you would have better luck asking in microsoft.public.xbox.live (because you're using the web interface, http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&lang=en&cr=us) -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm |
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ok ill post this there too.
"Lem" wrote: Jason Thomas wrote: i sort of use both ISC and router. here is my connection: The XBOX 360 is plugged into an ethernet cord which plugs into my windows xp panasonic laptop, which wirelessly connects the the linksys wrt54g router, which connects to my repeater, which connects the the ISP. i have also tried all of the IP Address from 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254. what i would really like to know is where is the problem, the XBOX 360, the Laptop, or the Router. also: the wierdest thing is, on saturday, i went to a friends with my harddrive to my XBOX 360, brought it back, plugged my XBOX 360 into my laptop, and my XBOX Live worked...I turned the XBOX off, then turned it back on, and i had the same problem. This leads me to think the problem is the XBOX but i dont know for sure. another thing: the day i upgraded my microsoft to service pack three was the day my XBOX started failing the IP Confirm Test. i dont know what service pack three did. I'm not sure what to suggest. Perhaps you would have better luck asking in microsoft.public.xbox.live (because you're using the web interface, http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&lang=en&cr=us) -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm |
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ok ill post this there too.
"Lem" wrote: Jason Thomas wrote: i sort of use both ISC and router. here is my connection: The XBOX 360 is plugged into an ethernet cord which plugs into my windows xp panasonic laptop, which wirelessly connects the the linksys wrt54g router, which connects to my repeater, which connects the the ISP. i have also tried all of the IP Address from 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254. what i would really like to know is where is the problem, the XBOX 360, the Laptop, or the Router. also: the wierdest thing is, on saturday, i went to a friends with my harddrive to my XBOX 360, brought it back, plugged my XBOX 360 into my laptop, and my XBOX Live worked...I turned the XBOX off, then turned it back on, and i had the same problem. This leads me to think the problem is the XBOX but i dont know for sure. another thing: the day i upgraded my microsoft to service pack three was the day my XBOX started failing the IP Confirm Test. i dont know what service pack three did. I'm not sure what to suggest. Perhaps you would have better luck asking in microsoft.public.xbox.live (because you're using the web interface, http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&lang=en&cr=us) -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm |
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ok ill post this there too.
"Lem" wrote: Jason Thomas wrote: i sort of use both ISC and router. here is my connection: The XBOX 360 is plugged into an ethernet cord which plugs into my windows xp panasonic laptop, which wirelessly connects the the linksys wrt54g router, which connects to my repeater, which connects the the ISP. i have also tried all of the IP Address from 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254. what i would really like to know is where is the problem, the XBOX 360, the Laptop, or the Router. also: the wierdest thing is, on saturday, i went to a friends with my harddrive to my XBOX 360, brought it back, plugged my XBOX 360 into my laptop, and my XBOX Live worked...I turned the XBOX off, then turned it back on, and i had the same problem. This leads me to think the problem is the XBOX but i dont know for sure. another thing: the day i upgraded my microsoft to service pack three was the day my XBOX started failing the IP Confirm Test. i dont know what service pack three did. I'm not sure what to suggest. Perhaps you would have better luck asking in microsoft.public.xbox.live (because you're using the web interface, http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&lang=en&cr=us) -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm |
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"Lem" wrote: Jason Thomas wrote: i sort of use both ISC and router. here is my connection: The XBOX 360 is plugged into an ethernet cord which plugs into my windows xp panasonic laptop, which wirelessly connects the the linksys wrt54g router, which connects to my repeater, which connects the the ISP. i have also tried all of the IP Address from 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254. what i would really like to know is where is the problem, the XBOX 360, the Laptop, or the Router. also: the wierdest thing is, on saturday, i went to a friends with my harddrive to my XBOX 360, brought it back, plugged my XBOX 360 into my laptop, and my XBOX Live worked...I turned the XBOX off, then turned it back on, and i had the same problem. This leads me to think the problem is the XBOX but i dont know for sure. another thing: the day i upgraded my microsoft to service pack three was the day my XBOX started failing the IP Confirm Test. i dont know what service pack three did. I'm not sure what to suggest. Perhaps you would have better luck asking in microsoft.public.xbox.live (because you're using the web interface, http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&lang=en&cr=us) -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm |
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:11:01 -0800, Jason Thomas wrote: i sort of use both ISC and router. here is my connection: The XBOX 360 is plugged into an ethernet cord which plugs into my windows xp panasonic laptop, which wirelessly connects the the linksys wrt54g router, which connects to my repeater, which connects the the ISP. i have also tried all of the IP Address from 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254. what i would really like to know is where is the problem, the XBOX 360, the Laptop, or the Set the computer and xbox to receive ip addresses automatically (not static ip). Remove ics from the laptop entirely (it's not required). Create a network bridge between the wired and wireless interfaces on the laptop. Jim. |
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From: Jason Thomas
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 Time: 14:11:01 i sort of use both ISC and router. here is my connection: The XBOX 360 is plugged into an ethernet cord which plugs into my windows xp panasonic laptop, which wirelessly connects the the linksys wrt54g router, which connects to my repeater, which connects the the ISP. i have also tried all of the IP Address from 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254. what i would really like to know is where is the problem, the XBOX 360, the Laptop, or the Router. Jason, In general, here's how to find out the address of your router. On your laptop: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1. Open Control Panel, click on "Network Connections", then click on "Wireless Network Connection". A Wireless Connection Status box appears. 2. Click on the "Support" tab, then click on the "Details..." button. 3. You will now see the network connection details. The "Default Gateway" address is the address of your router. It will almost certainly look like x.y.z.1 (that is, the last digit is usually a "1"), in one of these address ranges: 10.0.0.0 – 10.255.255.255 172.16.0.0 – 172.31.255.255 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.255.255 For example, 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 or 10.3.4.1 or 172.17.18.1. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You can then login to the router and discover the DHCP address range. However, I am not familiar with the ICS. Does ICS supply an IP address to the XBOX, in a similar way to the router supplying an address to the laptop, or does the XBOX get its address from the router, I wonder? Or, to put it another way, does ICS acts as a switch, so that your XBOX is on the same network as your laptop, or does ICS act as a router, so that the XBOX is on a different network? If the ICS acts as a switch, then your XBOX address needs to be on the same network as your laptop and router. For example, if your router address is 192.168.15.1, it is on the 192.168.15 network. Then, if you want to fix your XBOX address, you need to choose an address like 192.168.15.n, where n is not "1" or "255", and is outside the DHCP address range. If the ICS acts as a router, I don't know how you get it to serve an address to the XBOX. As someone else in this thread suggested, you may need to ask your question in an XBOX group. From what you say, I suspect that SP3 has compromised the operation of ICS somehow. However, here's another fundamental question: as you already have a router, can't you connect the XBOX direct to the router, and forget about ICS altogether? According to one of the forums (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/15...connected.html) it seems you will get a faster throughput and you won't need to have the PC switched on at the same time. And whatever SP3 did to your laptop won't matter. When you've cracked it, please come back and let us know what you did. I for one am very interested. Hope this helps. -- Ian |
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On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:27:16 +0000, Ian wrote: 2. Click on the "Support" tab, then click on the "Details..." button. 3. You will now see the network connection details. The "Default Gateway" address is the address of your router. It will almost certainly look like x.y.z.1 (that is, the last digit is usually a "1"), in one of these address ranges: 10.0.0.0 – 10.255.255.255 172.16.0.0 – 172.31.255.255 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.255.255 For example, 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 or 10.3.4.1 or 172.17.18.1. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It won't work because with the laptop having ics installed, it will have a static address of 192.168.0.1 which isn't configurable to anything else. The gateway information being sought would be imparted to the laptop as part of the dhcp process but it isn't getting its address by dhcp. You can then login to the router and discover the DHCP address range. However, I am not familiar with the ICS. Does ICS supply an IP address to the XBOX, in a similar way to the router supplying an address to the laptop, or does the XBOX get its address from the router, I wonder? ICS has its own dhcp service which can't be switched off so the xbox will get an ip address from the laptop in a similar manner to other pc's (except those running ics) getting an address from the router. Or, to put it another way, does ICS acts as a switch, so that your XBOX is on the same network as your laptop, or does ICS act as a router, so that the XBOX is on a different network? It's a router to a different network. If the ICS acts as a switch, then your XBOX address needs to be on the same network as your laptop and router. For example, if your router address is 192.168.15.1, it is on the 192.168.15 network. Then, if you want to fix your XBOX address, you need to choose an address like 192.168.15.n, where n is not "1" or "255", and is outside the DHCP address range. If the ICS acts as a router, I don't know how you get it to serve an address to the XBOX. As someone else in this thread suggested, you may need to ask your question in an XBOX group. From what you say, I suspect that SP3 has compromised the operation of ICS somehow. However, here's another fundamental question: as you already have a router, can't you connect the XBOX direct to the router, and forget about ICS altogether? You are right about this bit. Indeed it can connect direct to the router. However, he will probably want to use the xbox wirelessly ie located somewhere near the laptop rather than somewhere near the router so it can be plugged in. The simplest way of achieving that is by bridging the wired and wireless interfaces on the laptop but it can also be achieved in a more complex configuration by routing. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb457038.aspx According to one of the forums (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/15...connected.html) it seems you will get a faster throughput and you won't need to have the PC switched on at the same time. And whatever SP3 did to your laptop won't matter. I think it's faster too but some archive posts to this newsgroup suggest there's little in it between connecting as suggested and "double natting" using ics. When you've cracked it, please come back and let us know what you did. I for one am very interested. Hope this helps. Jim. |
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ok here is another thing that just happened last night.
I was taking all of the advice in this thread into consideration, and was checking everything and going back to my starting point. I opened network connections, chose wireless network connections (my laptops connection to the router) and then clicked properties. i think scrolled down to the bottom choice, i forget the name right now, as i am not on my computer it was something like icmp icl or something like that, but then i clicked the advanced tab in it and then clicked settings on the first option, which brought me to an allow these networks to be assigned ip addresses, and my xbox wasnt checked, so i checked it. i tested my connection to xbox live and it worked, i was playing for a while and then it stopped again, telling me the dns couldnt resolve my IP address. so i tried everything over and everything was the same as it was when it was working. i tried repairing connection, refreshing IP's, and resetting connection, and then the IP Confirm test failed again. I checked my settings and they were the same as before, so far that i can tell. but now, my XBOX live doesnt work, and when i turn the XBOX on and it is connected to the computer, my internet doesnt work, and when i turn off the XBOX, my internet works. i dont get that. "Ian" wrote: From: Jason Thomas Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 Time: 14:11:01 i sort of use both ISC and router. here is my connection: The XBOX 360 is plugged into an ethernet cord which plugs into my windows xp panasonic laptop, which wirelessly connects the the linksys wrt54g router, which connects to my repeater, which connects the the ISP. i have also tried all of the IP Address from 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254. what i would really like to know is where is the problem, the XBOX 360, the Laptop, or the Router. Jason, In general, here's how to find out the address of your router. On your laptop: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1. Open Control Panel, click on "Network Connections", then click on "Wireless Network Connection". A Wireless Connection Status box appears. 2. Click on the "Support" tab, then click on the "Details..." button. 3. You will now see the network connection details. The "Default Gateway" address is the address of your router. It will almost certainly look like x.y.z.1 (that is, the last digit is usually a "1"), in one of these address ranges: 10.0.0.0 – 10.255.255.255 172.16.0.0 – 172.31.255.255 192.168.0.0 – 192.168.255.255 For example, 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 or 10.3.4.1 or 172.17.18.1. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You can then login to the router and discover the DHCP address range. However, I am not familiar with the ICS. Does ICS supply an IP address to the XBOX, in a similar way to the router supplying an address to the laptop, or does the XBOX get its address from the router, I wonder? Or, to put it another way, does ICS acts as a switch, so that your XBOX is on the same network as your laptop, or does ICS act as a router, so that the XBOX is on a different network? If the ICS acts as a switch, then your XBOX address needs to be on the same network as your laptop and router. For example, if your router address is 192.168.15.1, it is on the 192.168.15 network. Then, if you want to fix your XBOX address, you need to choose an address like 192.168.15.n, where n is not "1" or "255", and is outside the DHCP address range. If the ICS acts as a router, I don't know how you get it to serve an address to the XBOX. As someone else in this thread suggested, you may need to ask your question in an XBOX group. From what you say, I suspect that SP3 has compromised the operation of ICS somehow. However, here's another fundamental question: as you already have a router, can't you connect the XBOX direct to the router, and forget about ICS altogether? According to one of the forums (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/15...connected.html) it seems you will get a faster throughput and you won't need to have the PC switched on at the same time. And whatever SP3 did to your laptop won't matter. When you've cracked it, please come back and let us know what you did. I for one am very interested. Hope this helps. -- Ian |
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and also, the reason i do not use a direct connection because my xbox is further away than 50 ft for the direct connection via ethernet cord, and i do not want to do the work of wiring a router up in the attic to use two cords or possibly three "James Egan" wrote: On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:11:01 -0800, Jason Thomas wrote: i sort of use both ISC and router. here is my connection: The XBOX 360 is plugged into an ethernet cord which plugs into my windows xp panasonic laptop, which wirelessly connects the the linksys wrt54g router, which connects to my repeater, which connects the the ISP. i have also tried all of the IP Address from 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.254. what i would really like to know is where is the problem, the XBOX 360, the Laptop, or the Set the computer and xbox to receive ip addresses automatically (not static ip). Remove ics from the laptop entirely (it's not required). Create a network bridge between the wired and wireless interfaces on the laptop. Jim. |
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On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:46:01 -0800, Jason Thomas wrote: and also, the reason i do not use a direct connection because my xbox is further away than 50 ft for the direct connection via ethernet cord, and i do not want to do the work of wiring a router up in the attic to use two cords or possibly three You don't need a router in the attic. That is what a network bridge on the xp laptop is designed to accommodate. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb457038.aspx If you remove ics, install the bridge and set the laptop to get an ip address automatically (wirelessly) from the router, when you plug the xbox into the laptop, the bridge will transparently allow the xbox to get its ip address and gateway details from the router as if it was wireless itself. Jim. |
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