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XP is getting to excruciatingly slow !!
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:37:09 -0700, "chrisv" wrote: Penang wrote: Even on cold boot it takes more than 5 minutes for XP to get everything back in shape, ready to be used. I have tried everything, from defragmenting the HD to "cleaning" the registry to even defragmenting the registry, and it's STILL so slow. Software wise, I don't use too many. Just the typical office thingy, that's all. What else should I do to speed up my XP machine --- a 4-core CPU with 4GB of RAM ? So far, two have advised you to Format and start over with a fresh install. Let me be the third one. All the other crap will just spin your wheels. My view is that that's terrible advice. It *might* be the best thing to do, but certainly not without having any idea of what's causing the problem. It's XP. That's what XP does... get slower and slower. |
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XP is getting to excruciatingly slow !!
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:37:09 -0700, "chrisv" wrote: Penang wrote: Even on cold boot it takes more than 5 minutes for XP to get everything back in shape, ready to be used. I have tried everything, from defragmenting the HD to "cleaning" the registry to even defragmenting the registry, and it's STILL so slow. Software wise, I don't use too many. Just the typical office thingy, that's all. What else should I do to speed up my XP machine --- a 4-core CPU with 4GB of RAM ? So far, two have advised you to Format and start over with a fresh install. Let me be the third one. All the other crap will just spin your wheels. My view is that that's terrible advice. It *might* be the best thing to do, but certainly not without having any idea of what's causing the problem. It's XP. That's what XP does... get slower and slower. |
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XP is getting to excruciatingly slow !!
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Daave wrote: M wrote: HeyBub wrote: M wrote: HeyBub wrote: Defragmenting the hard drive, even a heavily fragmented one, will not improve efficiency. It makes XP boot faster. I don't think so. The second thing that has to load is NTFS and it, in turn, then loads everything it needs for subsequent access. Everything. I've timed it numerous times on many machines and it boots faster. Out of curiosity, how much faster did these machines boot? That depended on how badly fragmented it was which could mean up to a minute less boot time. That's pretty significant! |
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XP is getting to excruciatingly slow !!
M wrote: Daave wrote: M wrote: HeyBub wrote: M wrote: HeyBub wrote: Defragmenting the hard drive, even a heavily fragmented one, will not improve efficiency. It makes XP boot faster. I don't think so. The second thing that has to load is NTFS and it, in turn, then loads everything it needs for subsequent access. Everything. I've timed it numerous times on many machines and it boots faster. Out of curiosity, how much faster did these machines boot? That depended on how badly fragmented it was which could mean up to a minute less boot time. That's pretty significant! |
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XP is getting to excruciatingly slow !!
relic wrote:
Ken Blake, MVP wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:37:09 -0700, "chrisv" wrote: Penang wrote: Even on cold boot it takes more than 5 minutes for XP to get everything back in shape, ready to be used. I have tried everything, from defragmenting the HD to "cleaning" the registry to even defragmenting the registry, and it's STILL so slow. Software wise, I don't use too many. Just the typical office thingy, that's all. What else should I do to speed up my XP machine --- a 4-core CPU with 4GB of RAM ? So far, two have advised you to Format and start over with a fresh install. Let me be the third one. All the other crap will just spin your wheels. My view is that that's terrible advice. It *might* be the best thing to do, but certainly not without having any idea of what's causing the problem. It's XP. That's what XP does... get slower and slower. Maybe in your case... |
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relic wrote: Ken Blake, MVP wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:37:09 -0700, "chrisv" wrote: Penang wrote: Even on cold boot it takes more than 5 minutes for XP to get everything back in shape, ready to be used. I have tried everything, from defragmenting the HD to "cleaning" the registry to even defragmenting the registry, and it's STILL so slow. Software wise, I don't use too many. Just the typical office thingy, that's all. What else should I do to speed up my XP machine --- a 4-core CPU with 4GB of RAM ? So far, two have advised you to Format and start over with a fresh install. Let me be the third one. All the other crap will just spin your wheels. My view is that that's terrible advice. It *might* be the best thing to do, but certainly not without having any idea of what's causing the problem. It's XP. That's what XP does... get slower and slower. Maybe in your case... |
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XP is getting to excruciatingly slow !!
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:15:19 -0700, "relic" wrote:
Ken Blake, MVP wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:37:09 -0700, "chrisv" wrote: Penang wrote: Even on cold boot it takes more than 5 minutes for XP to get everything back in shape, ready to be used. I have tried everything, from defragmenting the HD to "cleaning" the registry to even defragmenting the registry, and it's STILL so slow. Software wise, I don't use too many. Just the typical office thingy, that's all. What else should I do to speed up my XP machine --- a 4-core CPU with 4GB of RAM ? So far, two have advised you to Format and start over with a fresh install. Let me be the third one. All the other crap will just spin your wheels. My view is that that's terrible advice. It *might* be the best thing to do, but certainly not without having any idea of what's causing the problem. It's XP. That's what XP does... get slower and slower. You may believe whatever you want to believe. It's not my experience at all, and I completely disagree with that statement. XP gets slower and slower only on the computers of people who do everything with it wrong. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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XP is getting to excruciatingly slow !!
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:15:19 -0700, "relic" wrote:
Ken Blake, MVP wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:37:09 -0700, "chrisv" wrote: Penang wrote: Even on cold boot it takes more than 5 minutes for XP to get everything back in shape, ready to be used. I have tried everything, from defragmenting the HD to "cleaning" the registry to even defragmenting the registry, and it's STILL so slow. Software wise, I don't use too many. Just the typical office thingy, that's all. What else should I do to speed up my XP machine --- a 4-core CPU with 4GB of RAM ? So far, two have advised you to Format and start over with a fresh install. Let me be the third one. All the other crap will just spin your wheels. My view is that that's terrible advice. It *might* be the best thing to do, but certainly not without having any idea of what's causing the problem. It's XP. That's what XP does... get slower and slower. You may believe whatever you want to believe. It's not my experience at all, and I completely disagree with that statement. XP gets slower and slower only on the computers of people who do everything with it wrong. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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XP is getting to excruciatingly slow !!
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
It's XP. That's what XP does... get slower and slower. You may believe whatever you want to believe. It's not my experience at all, and I completely disagree with that statement. XP gets slower and slower only on the computers of people who do everything with it wrong. I had XP Pro and Home dual booting for over 4.5 years, and kept them humming along (Home was just a back door to Pro). Speed wasn't a problem, some odd ball stuff was, like the boot.ini file would change itself from. WINDOWS="XP Pro E_Drive" /fastdetect /NoExecute=Optin to WINDOWS="XP Pro E_Drive" /fastdetect=Optout Never could figure/trace that one down (not malware, or a rootkit) there's just so many times you can use ERUNT or repair installs. I finally formatted the two partitions, the restore disks didn't work for home (too old?), so I dual booted slipstreamed XPSP3's - things aren't working right any more - and one of the two is slower than it should be. I plan on reformatting that Partition, then install XP, SP1, SP2, and maybe SP3. Just saying even after 4.5 years of operation (with SP3), I was operating faster and with fewer problems, than after a clean install. (and all drivers have been installed). Note: I reinstalled as my Best Buy network card quit working, and I thought it was windows Pro. I had the internal one disabled with autoruns - thus my warning about autoruns in my post above. -- Find Waldo http://tinyurl.com/yj8ds74 |
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XP is getting to excruciatingly slow !!
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
It's XP. That's what XP does... get slower and slower. You may believe whatever you want to believe. It's not my experience at all, and I completely disagree with that statement. XP gets slower and slower only on the computers of people who do everything with it wrong. I had XP Pro and Home dual booting for over 4.5 years, and kept them humming along (Home was just a back door to Pro). Speed wasn't a problem, some odd ball stuff was, like the boot.ini file would change itself from. WINDOWS="XP Pro E_Drive" /fastdetect /NoExecute=Optin to WINDOWS="XP Pro E_Drive" /fastdetect=Optout Never could figure/trace that one down (not malware, or a rootkit) there's just so many times you can use ERUNT or repair installs. I finally formatted the two partitions, the restore disks didn't work for home (too old?), so I dual booted slipstreamed XPSP3's - things aren't working right any more - and one of the two is slower than it should be. I plan on reformatting that Partition, then install XP, SP1, SP2, and maybe SP3. Just saying even after 4.5 years of operation (with SP3), I was operating faster and with fewer problems, than after a clean install. (and all drivers have been installed). Note: I reinstalled as my Best Buy network card quit working, and I thought it was windows Pro. I had the internal one disabled with autoruns - thus my warning about autoruns in my post above. -- Find Waldo http://tinyurl.com/yj8ds74 |
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XP is getting to excruciatingly slow !!
Daave wrote:
M wrote: Daave wrote: M wrote: HeyBub wrote: M wrote: HeyBub wrote: Defragmenting the hard drive, even a heavily fragmented one, will not improve efficiency. It makes XP boot faster. I don't think so. The second thing that has to load is NTFS and it, in turn, then loads everything it needs for subsequent access. Everything. I've timed it numerous times on many machines and it boots faster. Out of curiosity, how much faster did these machines boot? That depended on how badly fragmented it was which could mean up to a minute less boot time. That's pretty significant! The machine in question was so badly fragmented that you couldn't see any blue in the defrag app, just red and it had over 15,000 fragmented files. Even the defrag recommended defragging it. It took about 25 passes with the XP scrolling bar before it went to the Welcome screen. After defragmenting, it went down to six passes. Most machines only see 5 to 10 second improvements. M |
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XP is getting to excruciatingly slow !!
Daave wrote:
M wrote: Daave wrote: M wrote: HeyBub wrote: M wrote: HeyBub wrote: Defragmenting the hard drive, even a heavily fragmented one, will not improve efficiency. It makes XP boot faster. I don't think so. The second thing that has to load is NTFS and it, in turn, then loads everything it needs for subsequent access. Everything. I've timed it numerous times on many machines and it boots faster. Out of curiosity, how much faster did these machines boot? That depended on how badly fragmented it was which could mean up to a minute less boot time. That's pretty significant! The machine in question was so badly fragmented that you couldn't see any blue in the defrag app, just red and it had over 15,000 fragmented files. Even the defrag recommended defragging it. It took about 25 passes with the XP scrolling bar before it went to the Welcome screen. After defragmenting, it went down to six passes. Most machines only see 5 to 10 second improvements. M |
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relic wrote:
Ken Blake, MVP wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:37:09 -0700, "chrisv" wrote: Penang wrote: Even on cold boot it takes more than 5 minutes for XP to get everything back in shape, ready to be used. I have tried everything, from defragmenting the HD to "cleaning" the registry to even defragmenting the registry, and it's STILL so slow. Software wise, I don't use too many. Just the typical office thingy, that's all. What else should I do to speed up my XP machine --- a 4-core CPU with 4GB of RAM ? So far, two have advised you to Format and start over with a fresh install. Let me be the third one. All the other crap will just spin your wheels. My view is that that's terrible advice. It *might* be the best thing to do, but certainly not without having any idea of what's causing the problem. It's XP. That's what XP does... get slower and slower. You better use linux. Never had these problems with Debian. |
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