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Same computer and with Thunderbird containing previous eMails for all
GMAIL acounts. Several.. Started computer and GOOGLE says it is a different computer. NO IT IS NOT. No changed mad to this computer. Just been off for a while. Same damn computer ! Now it wants to VERIFY by collecting my phone number to send a text to. Google Ass Holes !!!!!! Is there any way around this total CRAP ! May just quit damn GMAIL and do all on Outlook ! My accounts work on other PCs but where I am at this time is the one I have to work with. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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hatethem wrote:
Same computer and with Thunderbird containing previous eMails for all GMAIL acounts. Several.. Started computer and GOOGLE says it is a different computer. NO IT IS NOT. No changed mad to this computer. Just been off for a while. Same damn computer ! Now it wants to VERIFY by collecting my phone number to send a text to. Google Ass Holes !!!!!! Is there any way around this total CRAP ! May just quit damn GMAIL and do all on Outlook ! My accounts work on other PCs but where I am at this time is the one I have to work with. What if you log into Gmail via the web and use the Settings menu to enable "less secure" mail tools. Like your broken one. Does that make a difference ? Paul |
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On 10/8/2018 4:40 PM, hatethem wrote:
Same computer and with Thunderbird containing previous eMails for all GMAIL acounts. Several.. Started computer and GOOGLE says it is a different computer. NO IT IS NOT. No changed mad to this computer. Just been off for a while. Same damn computer ! Now it wants to VERIFY by collecting my phone number to send a text to. Google Ass Holes !!!!!! Is there any way around this total CRAP ! May just quit damn GMAIL and do all on Outlook ! My accounts work on other PCs but where I am at this time is the one I have to work with. Gmail does not provide an Internet connection. That connection is provided by your Internet Service Provider (ISP). Why do you not use your ISP's E-mail service? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com Too often, Twitter is a source of verbal vomit. Examples include Donald Trump, Roseanne Barr, and Elon Musk. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:
Why do you not use your ISP's E-mail service? Because if I move to a different area I'd have to do it all over again and notify hundreds of contacts about "my new address." (I run my own domain name and mail server so no need to do that. Granted, that's not for everybody.) |
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On 10/8/2018 6:34 PM, Sam Hill wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, David E. Ross wrote: Why do you not use your ISP's E-mail service? Because if I move to a different area I'd have to do it all over again and notify hundreds of contacts about "my new address." (I run my own domain name and mail server so no need to do that. Granted, that's not for everybody.) Your last statement in parentheses is the best solution. You do not even need your own mail server. All you need is an ISP that allows you to have an E-mail address based on your own personalized domain. (Not all ISPs allow that, but enough do allow it.) Almost 16 years ago, my daughter registered rosssde.com as a gift to me. It initially cost me $8US every year to keep that domain; it is now $10US a year. Since then, I have changed ISPs twice since then without having to notify anyone (other than the ISP itself) about a change. That is because I have not had to change my E-mail address, which moved seamlessly to the nw ISP. The new ISP handled that move. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com Too often, Twitter is a source of verbal vomit. Examples include Donald Trump, Roseanne Barr, and Elon Musk. |
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hatethem wrote:
Same computer and with Thunderbird containing previous eMails for all GMAIL acounts. Several.. Started computer and GOOGLE says it is a different computer. NO IT IS NOT. No changed mad to this computer. Just been off for a while. Same damn computer ! Now it wants to VERIFY by collecting my phone number to send a text to. Not needed if you can still log into your Google Account (see below). Google Ass Holes !!!!!! Is there any way around this total CRAP ! May just quit damn GMAIL and do all on Outlook ! My accounts work on other PCs but where I am at this time is the one I have to work with. Just chill. Log into the Google Account associated with the non-working Gmail email address. I.e. do not login into Gmail, but login into your Google Account: https://myaccount.google.com - Sign-in & security - Device activity & security events - Recent security events. (Direct link: https://myaccount.google.com/security#activity) Now look at these security events and fix the suspect ones. And on the same page, set 'Allow less secure apps' to ON (as Paul mentioned). |
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote: Gmail does not provide an Internet connection. That connection is provided by your Internet Service Provider (ISP). Why do you not use your ISP's E-mail service? I can't answer for him, but I'll tell you why *I* don't: For various reasons, I've changed ISPs several times, and I expect to do it again next year. The first few times I did it, I had been using the old ISPs e-mail service. Changing ISPs was a nuisance, requiring me to reprint my business cards, notify everyone I knew about the new address, change various e-mail subscriptions, notify doctors and lawyers about the change, etc. I also now have an address that's much easier for relatives and friends to remember. I wanted an e-mail address that was fixed, regardless of who my ISP was, and I now have one. It's not Gmail, but one I pay a small amount for. As far as I'm concerned, this is a much better choice than using my ISPs service. |
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On 10/9/2018 8:11 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, "David E. Ross" wrote: Gmail does not provide an Internet connection. That connection is provided by your Internet Service Provider (ISP). Why do you not use your ISP's E-mail service? I can't answer for him, but I'll tell you why *I* don't: For various reasons, I've changed ISPs several times, and I expect to do it again next year. The first few times I did it, I had been using the old ISPs e-mail service. Changing ISPs was a nuisance, requiring me to reprint my business cards, notify everyone I knew about the new address, change various e-mail subscriptions, notify doctors and lawyers about the change, etc. I also now have an address that's much easier for relatives and friends to remember. I wanted an e-mail address that was fixed, regardless of who my ISP was, and I now have one. It's not Gmail, but one I pay a small amount for. As far as I'm concerned, this is a much better choice than using my ISPs service. Have you considered registering a personal domain and using that? Once you establish an E-mail address with that domain, you never have to change your E-mail address again when you change ISP. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com Too often, Twitter is a source of verbal vomit. Examples include Donald Trump, Roseanne Barr, and Elon Musk. |
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David E. Ross wrote:
On 10/9/2018 8:11 AM, Ken Blake wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, "David E. Ross" wrote: Gmail does not provide an Internet connection. That connection is provided by your Internet Service Provider (ISP). Why do you not use your ISP's E-mail service? I can't answer for him, but I'll tell you why *I* don't: For various reasons, I've changed ISPs several times, and I expect to do it again next year. The first few times I did it, I had been using the old ISPs e-mail service. Changing ISPs was a nuisance, requiring me to reprint my business cards, notify everyone I knew about the new address, change various e-mail subscriptions, notify doctors and lawyers about the change, etc. I also now have an address that's much easier for relatives and friends to remember. I wanted an e-mail address that was fixed, regardless of who my ISP was, and I now have one. It's not Gmail, but one I pay a small amount for. As far as I'm concerned, this is a much better choice than using my ISPs service. Have you considered registering a personal domain and using that? Once you establish an E-mail address with that domain, you never have to change your E-mail address again when you change ISP. Well, as long as you keep paying the renewal fee to re-register your domain. You never own a domain, just lease it. |
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 08:48:39 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote: On 10/9/2018 8:11 AM, Ken Blake wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, "David E. Ross" wrote: Gmail does not provide an Internet connection. That connection is provided by your Internet Service Provider (ISP). Why do you not use your ISP's E-mail service? I can't answer for him, but I'll tell you why *I* don't: For various reasons, I've changed ISPs several times, and I expect to do it again next year. The first few times I did it, I had been using the old ISPs e-mail service. Changing ISPs was a nuisance, requiring me to reprint my business cards, notify everyone I knew about the new address, change various e-mail subscriptions, notify doctors and lawyers about the change, etc. I also now have an address that's much easier for relatives and friends to remember. I wanted an e-mail address that was fixed, regardless of who my ISP was, and I now have one. It's not Gmail, but one I pay a small amount for. As far as I'm concerned, this is a much better choice than using my ISPs service. Have you considered registering a personal domain and using that? Once you establish an E-mail address with that domain, you never have to change your E-mail address again when you change ISP. Yes, that's exactly what I did. |
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On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 11:45:35 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
David E. Ross wrote: On 10/9/2018 8:11 AM, Ken Blake wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, "David E. Ross" wrote: Gmail does not provide an Internet connection. That connection is provided by your Internet Service Provider (ISP). Why do you not use your ISP's E-mail service? I can't answer for him, but I'll tell you why *I* don't: For various reasons, I've changed ISPs several times, and I expect to do it again next year. The first few times I did it, I had been using the old ISPs e-mail service. Changing ISPs was a nuisance, requiring me to reprint my business cards, notify everyone I knew about the new address, change various e-mail subscriptions, notify doctors and lawyers about the change, etc. I also now have an address that's much easier for relatives and friends to remember. I wanted an e-mail address that was fixed, regardless of who my ISP was, and I now have one. It's not Gmail, but one I pay a small amount for. As far as I'm concerned, this is a much better choice than using my ISPs service. Have you considered registering a personal domain and using that? Once you establish an E-mail address with that domain, you never have to change your E-mail address again when you change ISP. Well, as long as you keep paying the renewal fee to re-register your domain. You never own a domain, just lease it. Yes, but the cost is very low. I don't mind paying it. |
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On 10/8/2018 6:40 PM, hatethem wrote:
Same computer and with Thunderbird containing previous eMails for all GMAIL acounts.Â* Several.. Started computer and GOOGLE says it is a different computer.Â* NO IT IS NOT.Â* No changed mad to this computer.Â* Just been off for a while. Same damn computer ! Now it wants to VERIFY by collecting my phone number to send a text to. Google Ass Holes !!!!!! Is there any way around this total CRAP ! May just quit damn GMAIL and do all on Outlook ! My accounts work on other PCs but where I am at this time is the one I have to work with. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Google is malware! Don't give them ant addresses and don't let them download stuff to your computer. Among their stuff is tracking cookies. |
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 16:40:43 -0700, hatethem
wrote: Same computer and with Thunderbird containing previous eMails for all GMAIL acounts. Several.. Started computer and GOOGLE says it is a different computer. NO IT IS NOT. No changed mad to this computer. Just been off for a while. Same damn computer ! Now it wants to VERIFY by collecting my phone number to send a text to. Google locked me out when I upgraded my PC. I walked out on the street and asked a passer by for help. Gave his cellphone number and Gmail sent him my unlock code. And I used that to unlock my account. Changed my password. It only took about 3 minutes, what with walking back and forth. I don't have a cellphone, so there was no way I could give my number. That's how easy google has made it to unlock an email account. Give them ANY personal info (even if it's fake) and they'll give you what you want. PS Don't tell the passer-by your email, or he'll be able to unlock it too .... []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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In message , David E. Ross
writes: On 10/8/2018 6:34 PM, Sam Hill wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, David E. Ross wrote: Why do you not use your ISP's E-mail service? Because if I move to a different area I'd have to do it all over again and notify hundreds of contacts about "my new address." (I run my own domain name and mail server so no need to do that. Granted, that's not for everybody.) Your last statement in parentheses is the best solution. You do not even need your own mail server. All you need is an ISP that allows you to have an E-mail address based on your own personalized domain. (Not all ISPs allow that, but enough do allow it.) [] If your ISP will let you _send_ emails with a From: that has nothing to do with that ISP, then indeed you don't need an _outgoing_ mail server. You still need an _incoming_ one (though many domain-registering companies will provide that, often with autoforwarding too). Your ISP cannot, I think, provide that unless they're also handling your domain registration, as _incoming_ mail won't come anywhere near them. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf The losses on both sides at Borodino [1812], 70 miles from Moscow, are the equivalent of a jumbo jet crashing into an area of six square miles every five minutes for the whole ten hours of the battle, killing or wounding everyone on board. - Andrew Roberts on Napoleon, RT 2015/6/13-19 |
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On 10/9/2018 2:13 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , David E. Ross writes: On 10/8/2018 6:34 PM, Sam Hill wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 17:28:15 -0700, David E. Ross wrote: Why do you not use your ISP's E-mail service? Because if I move to a different area I'd have to do it all over again and notify hundreds of contacts about "my new address." (I run my own domain name and mail server so no need to do that. Granted, that's not for everybody.) Your last statement in parentheses is the best solution. You do not even need your own mail server. All you need is an ISP that allows you to have an E-mail address based on your own personalized domain. (Not all ISPs allow that, but enough do allow it.) [] If your ISP will let you _send_ emails with a From: that has nothing to do with that ISP, then indeed you don't need an _outgoing_ mail server. You still need an _incoming_ one (though many domain-registering companies will provide that, often with autoforwarding too). Your ISP cannot, I think, provide that unless they're also handling your domain registration, as _incoming_ mail won't come anywhere near them. I disagree. My Internet connection is through Spectrum, which also provides cable TV service in my community. When it was Time Warner Cable before the merger, they insisted I use their domain in my E-mail address. For that reason, I subscribed to E-mail and Web hosting from Sunset.net at http://sunset.net/index.html, which does not impose such a limitation. (I do still have such an E-mail address with a roadrunner.com domain, which I only use as a backup for sending messages on the rare occasion when Sunset.net goes down.) When the original registry for my domain decided to concentrate on Web development and stopped being a registry, I started using Omnis Network at http://www.omnis.com/, which I still use for my annual domain renewal. Thus, I have one ISP for a broadband connection to the Internet and an unrelated ISP for hosting my E-mail and Web site. I also have a third unrelated company for registering my domain. I noticed that I might save some money by using Omnis Network in place of Sunset.net for hosting my E-mail and Web site. I might explore that. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com Too often, Twitter is a source of verbal vomit. Examples include Donald Trump, Roseanne Barr, and Elon Musk. |
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