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The crazy cursor update
RHB wrote:
"Rabid Robot" wrote in message ... On 2019-09-01 10:46 p.m., RHB wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Char Jackson" Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 12:43 AM Subject: The crazy cursor update On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 00:28:22 -0400, "RHB" wrote: I think I'll download linux on this machine and try and install it on the sick one. As others have pointed out, you don't need to install Linux, you just need to boot Linux. How is Linux "booted" on a machine that runs windows? That LT has a DVD drive but when I put the DVD with Linux on it, there was no way to run it. Instead of loading an operating system from the hard disk as it does with Windows, the computer loads the operating system installed on a DVD. If your computer isn't loading Linux from the DVD, I reckon that it wasn't installed onto the disc properly (burn the ISO onto the disc rather than copy the file onto it) or the BIOS wasn't configured to load from the CD/DVD drive first. The same DVD worked on another laptop I finally gave away. The HD was dead. But that one wasn't W-10 if that makes a difference. Most likely, it (the Linux DVD) worked on the other laptop, *because* its HD was dead. I.e. the laptop *could not* boot from the HD, so - as the next choice in the boot menu -, it booted from the DVD. See how you can learn from combining different pieces of information and how it can help to troubleshoot your problem(s)? If that's too difficult, others have also pointed out that you can boot into the BIOS setup screens and let it sit there, cooking, to see if similar issues crop up. The whole idea behind these things is to take your current Windows installation out of the picture long enough to see whether the problem exists outside of Windows. I had it sitting for hours last night in the BIOS screens. But with no cursor to go crazy, no touch screen and pad to die - I learned nothing. It just sat there. You learned nothing, because you're not looking for information to help your troubleshooting. What you *should* have learned is that at least the (internal) keyboard works in this *other/non-Windows environment*. What you *should* have *done* is check if the touchscreen and touchpad (and USB mouse? and USB keyboard?) *work* in this other/non-Windows environment. I.e. saying "no touch screen and pad to die" does not say whether or not they *work* (in this other/non-Windows environment). And re-asking our questions which have never been answered: Do you have and external USB mouse or/and USB keyboard? If so, have you tried them? If so, what were the results and have you tried to disable the touchscreen/touchpad/internal-keyboard? And ... ad infinitum. These things have been suggested several times already. I'll see if I can locate those posts. Thanks. I'll see if I can Google how that is done. Ideally, you'd have someone in your immediate vicinity show you how to do it. Once you see it and get a proper, direct explanation for it, it becomes something of child's play. Unfortunately, written directions such as these don't always translate because they don't factor in the current context of what you're experiencing. I agree. |
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The crazy cursor update
RHB wrote:
There was a message that said without being an Admisistrator I couldn't make any changes. So I guess any changes on those BIOS screens are hidden from my view. I despise W-10. Sounds like a previous owner of the machine has set a BIOS password, and you can't change the boot order without knowing that, it's nothing to do with Win10 at that point. |
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The crazy cursor update
On 2019-09-02 3:32 p.m., Andy Burns wrote:
RHB wrote: There was a message that said without being an Admisistrator I couldn't make any changes. So I guess any changes on those BIOS screens are hidden from my view.Â* I despise W-10. Sounds like a previous owner of the machine has set a BIOS password, and you can't change the boot order without knowing that, it's nothing to do with Win10 at that point. He said that he had stared at the BIOS options for hours without anything happening and there was no cursor. It's possible that he got in there (and therefore that there is no password) or that he saw the Windows recovery options and thought that that was the BIOS. Either way, helping the guy is difficult because he's not helping himself even slightly. I'd suggest that he take pictures and send them to us from this point on rather than narrate what he remembers about what happened. |
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The crazy cursor update
Rabid Robot wrote:
helping the guy is difficult because he's not helping himself even slightly. I tend to agree, I suspect people are on the brink of losing interest in helping. I'd suggest that he take pictures and send them to us from this point on rather than narrate what he remembers about what happened. But don't try to post pictures to usenet, upload them to a sharing site and include a link here ... |
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The crazy cursor update
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 21:01:57 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote: Rabid Robot wrote: helping the guy is difficult because he's not helping himself even slightly. I tend to agree, I suspect people are on the brink of losing interest in helping. I'd suggest that he take pictures and send them to us from this point on rather than narrate what he remembers about what happened. But don't try to post pictures to usenet, upload them to a sharing site and include a link here ... When possible, my first preference would be for people to post their images to Usenet rather than a web hosting site. Use a dump group such as alt.binaries.test, then include the MID here. That used to be the norm, but sadly old norms tend to give way to new norms. |
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The crazy cursor update
Char Jackson wrote:
When possible, my first preference would be for people to post their images to Usenet rather than a web hosting site. Use a dump group such as alt.binaries.test, then include the MID here. Not so easy for any of us whose provider no longer carries binary groups. |
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The crazy cursor update
On 2019-09-03 4:46 p.m., Andy Burns wrote:
Char Jackson wrote: When possible, my first preference would be for people to post their images to Usenet rather than a web hosting site. Use a dump group such as alt.binaries.test, then include the MID here. Not so easy for any of us whose provider no longer carries binary groups. I think that most Usenet providers no longer carry binary groups. For those, you have to pay for a subscription. I have to agree that it's best to simply post a link to an image hosting site either way since those are likely to actually be seen. |
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Have you tried disabling the touchscreen ?
Have you tried disabling the touchscreen ?
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Have you tried disabling the touchscreen ?
RHB replied ( to me ):
Have you tried disabling the touchscreen ? No. Would that help show if it's a hardware problem? I don't know, I can't know, please tell me. I have the BIOS window open as someone suggested but with no cursor there I can't see how I'll know if the cursor goes crazy. You can't mouse ? You must have an old machine. |
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Have you tried disabling the touchscreen ?
"Andy Burns" wrote in message ... Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: Have you tried disabling the touchscreen ? I didn't make the mistake of buying one in the first place ... It's getting harder to find them without the touch screen. |
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Have you tried disabling the touchscreen ?
"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message ... Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: Have you tried disabling the touchscreen ? AFAIK, he did not disable *any* of the problem devices, I told him to disable one-by-one. He's not very good in following advice/instructions, nor at *studying* the errors, information, etc. and he's quite defensive in his responses. All in all not very helpful in getting *his* problems solved. Also still open: Did he get into the BIOS or not? If so, did the problem devices fail there as well? I did disable the touchscreen and that cured the problem. With no mouse in the BIOS and no working keyboard there was nothing to choose anything with. |
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Have you tried disabling the touchscreen ?
On 9/17/19 7:04 PM, RHB wrote:
"Andy Burns" wrote in message ... Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: Have you tried disabling the touchscreen ? I didn't make the mistake of buying one in the first place ... It's getting harder to find them without the touch screen. I bought a laptop a couple of months ago (Lenovo T480s) and it came without a touchscreen. It does have a lighted keyboard and a NVMe disk. -- 98 days until the winter celebration (Wed, Dec 25, 2019 12:00:00 AM for 1 day). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "A man is accepted into church for what he believes--and turned out for what he knows." -Mark Twain |
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