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  #16  
Old September 15th 19, 04:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Dan[_21_]
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Default Asus sabertooth p67 and Win 10?

On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 10:48:43 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Rabid Rogue wrote:
On 2019-09-14 3:19 p.m., Dan wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 20:14:33 +0100, Dan wrote:

On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 19:10:19 GMT, wrote:

The following is provided since you did not mention your processor.

Windows 10 CPU reqiurements:

Up through the following 9th Generation Intel Processors (Intel Core
i3/i5/i7/i9-9xxxK), and Intel Xeon E-21xx[1], Intel Atom (J4xxx/J5xxx and
N4xxx/N5xxx), Celeron and Pentium Processors

Up through the following AMD 7th Generation Processors (A-Series Ax-9xxx &
E-Series Ex-9xxx & FX-9xxx); AMD Athlon 2xx processors, AMD Ryzen 3/5/7
2xxx, AMD Opteron[2] and AMD EPYC 7xxx[2].

Run the Windows Update Assistant. available at microsift.com. Free.

Thanks, I forgot to add: i5-2500K

I want to format the SSD, run the 1903-64 Win 10 pro from a DVD and
re-install Windows. Will malwarebytes pro and Kaspersky free run OK?
I am thinking of using Comodo firewall.


the 2500k is pretty slow (as fast as an ancient FX-6300 actually) but
you didn't mention gaming or anything of the sort so there's no reason
for you to worry about its performance. If anything, it's almost as
though you're having a laugh.



You must be one of those rich guys or something.

*******

This seems perfectly useful to me.
I wouldn't be whining if I had one of those.

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-3-70-ghz.html

# of Cores 4
# of Threads 4
Processor Base Frequency 3.30 GHz
Cache 6 MB SmartCache

Single Threaded benchmark - this is the one that influences
the "feel of the machine", because many
activities are single-threaded.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

Intel Core i5-2500K @ 3.30GHz 1,899 === everyday use, feels faster
AMD FX-6300 Six-Core 1,407

Multithreaded benchmark

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/CPU_mega_page.html

Intel Core i5-2500K @ 3.30GHz 6488
AMD FX-6300 Six-Core 6405

Paul



Thanks Paul. I looked up as well for a comparison, my 2500K is faster.
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Old September 16th 19, 06:54 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Dan[_21_]
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Default Asus sabertooth p67 and Win 10?

On Sun, 15 Sep 2019 10:19:58 -0500, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

On 2019-09-15 3:12 a.m., Dan wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 19:33:26 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Dan wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 15:35:52 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Dan wrote:
My main desktop is a Asus Sabertooth p67 with 16GB ram, 960GB SSD and
RX 460 1GB graphics card.
It currently runs Win 7 64 ultimate, but in Jan 2020, no more Win 7
updates. So can the motherboard run Win 10 pro?
Your machine is better than a couple I have Windows 10
running on, so I would say "yes".

What it won't run on, is the vast majority of Pentium 4 machines.
There is supposed to be a model of Pentium 4 near the very end
of the production run, that will work, but nobody has ever
made a claim to have done it using one of those.

There are occasionally a couple Intel products that don't work.
One contains a third-party GPU, which screws up detection and
acceptance (the third-party apparently doesn't provide driver
updates). Another, the CPUID instruction is mis-coded. The
instruction set does actually support Windows 10, but due to the
error in CPUID, the Windows 10 installer refuses to install. Other
than that, your P67 is mainstream enough, you're not likely to
trigger one of those conditions.

In the old days, there was an Upgrade Advisor you could use in
advance, to determine whether it was worthwhile wasting your
time on upgrades. Now, that's part of the installer image.
The closest thing to an Upgrade Advisor, might be to run the
one for Windows 8.1, because the Windows 10 acceptance criteria
are similar to Windows 8.1. You would only use such an approach,
if you were on Hughes Satellite, and had only a 2GB download cap
per month. You need a higher cap than that, to make Windows 10
a practical choice.

You need a decent enough Internet connection, so that
downloading a 4GB+ DVD on a single day, won't put you
into "go-slow" mode on the Internet connection.

People on dialup-networking, need not apply. The machine
would waste so much of your time while it updates,
you'd never get to use it.

Paul


Cheers, I am fortunate enough to have cable internet (100 Mbit)
connection. I have already downloaded all the drivers and Win 10 pro
1903. I still think I can use my Win 7 ultimate COA?

I did one about two weeks ago, and it still worked.
Using a Win7 Refurbisher COA. Activated just fine.
The Refurbisher was Pro, the Win10 was Pro.

Paul



Cheers Paul. I want to get my legitimate COA activated before the end
of the year.


I used my windows 8.0 keys to activate 2 bare metal installs of Win 10
1903 and it went without a hitch.

Rene



Now, I think I have enough info. Thanks.
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Old September 16th 19, 04:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Asus sabertooth p67 and Win 10?

On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 19:44:03 +0100, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Dan wrote:
My main desktop is a Asus Sabertooth p67 with 16GB ram, 960GB SSD and
RX 460 1GB graphics card.
It currently runs Win 7 64 ultimate, but in Jan 2020, no more Win 7
updates. So can the motherboard run Win 10 pro?


I have the ASUS P7P55D-E LX with a Core i5 760 (1st gen!) running Win 10
Pro 1903 just fine. I think that predates your board. There is a hitch,
though.

Long story short, on that board, the issued VIA sound drivers are broken.
You may have the same old VIA sound chipset on that board. You will still
have sound, though. It doesn't totally break sound playback.

***

Longer story, bug description, and workaround follows in case you have
the VIA problem:

The driver issue, if you run into it, is speakers not automatically
shutting down when the headphone jack is plugged in. You have to go into
the sound panel and disable the speakers manually. This is really
annoying to do every time you plug in headphones. If you don't use
headphones, it is no problem at all.

It is a known issue that came with the Win 10 1024 release drivers for
the VIA chipset. IOW, from day one. The bug is never getting fixed,
because the year 2006 VIA drivers are still the latest from Microsoft.
Everything was going fine on my machine until 1803 insisted on replacing
my working Win 8.1 drivers with the buggy set on a feature update. Then I
couldn't find the old drivers to roll back. Oops.

You can get around it on current Win 10 installs by installing the
generic "High Definition Audio Device" drivers instead of the faulty VIA
driver. You can do this by opening Device Manager, clicking "update
driver" in its Device Manager properties page, telling it you want to
select the driver, and then to select the driver from what's already on
the machine, not "have disk."

The driver is right there, and it works, and Microsoft is still serving
up garbage.

Every time there's a feature update, you will need to change back the
drivers. The installer, since 1803, will insist on the broken VIA driver.
In fact, I just went in and fixed the problem machine (problem software
really) while typing this, since I saw it had updated to 1903. Sure
enough, the headphone jack properly silencing the speakers was broke
again until I replaced the driver with the generic High Definition Audio.

So there's that. I hope you have the newer Realtek chipset, because VIA's
drivers are a sad joke on Windows 10.

--
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten
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Old September 16th 19, 04:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Zaghadka
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Default Asus sabertooth p67 and Win 10?

On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:38:03 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Zaghadka
wrote:

Long story short, on that board, the issued VIA sound drivers are broken.
You may have the same old VIA sound chipset on that board. You will still
have sound, though. It doesn't totally break sound playback.


You may have VIA on *your* board, of course.

--
Zag

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spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten
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Old September 16th 19, 05:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Rene Lamontagne
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Default Asus sabertooth p67 and Win 10?

On 2019-09-16 10:41 a.m., Zaghadka wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:38:03 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Zaghadka
wrote:

Long story short, on that board, the issued VIA sound drivers are broken.
You may have the same old VIA sound chipset on that board. You will still
have sound, though. It doesn't totally break sound playback.


You may have VIA on *your* board, of course.


I believe the SABERTOOTH P67 has Realtek ALC892 audio on board.

Rene
  #21  
Old September 16th 19, 05:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Zaghadka
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Default Asus sabertooth p67 and Win 10?

On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:32:38 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Rene
Lamontagne wrote:

On 2019-09-16 10:41 a.m., Zaghadka wrote:
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:38:03 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Zaghadka
wrote:

Long story short, on that board, the issued VIA sound drivers are broken.
You may have the same old VIA sound chipset on that board. You will still
have sound, though. It doesn't totally break sound playback.


You may have VIA on *your* board, of course.


I believe the SABERTOOTH P67 has Realtek ALC892 audio on board.


Good. The VIA thing is annoying. Maybe someone suffering from the bug
will get some help out of my post.

--
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten
 




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