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  #46  
Old September 23rd 05, 06:09 AM
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Kephryn wrote:
kurttrail wrote:
Howard Brazee wrote:

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:31:13 -0600, Notan wrote:


If people deserve to be punished for being foolish, then the
implication is that we shouldn't work to prevent them from their
just consequences.

You can't make people smarter, all you can do is mitigate the
consequences of their foolishness.

Again, I'd imagine that there's no reasoning with little Kurt.

Apparently, he's the the type of person that thinks calling a
fat person "fat" is a good motivator for weight loss.

Anything else would be coddling.

In the case of foolish computing the consequences are different from
being fat. I could let someone play with a loaded handgun trusting
that the only person who got hurt was the person playing with that
gun, and he would deserve what he got.



HUH? Both of those affect other people. I guess you never had to
sit next to some fat f*#ker on an airplane. And playing with guns
gets people shot, and not only those doing the playing.


Except I'm smart enough to see that we all pay for the damage. And
I would prefer to be protected from that fool's actions. But
then I'd be as big of a fool as Kurt is, and just as deserving of
the consequences.



What consequences are there for you if someone gets spyware on their
computer?


My consequence, I get Paid for cleaning it.


LOL! So you feed on the misery of others. ;-)

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  #47  
Old September 23rd 05, 06:20 AM
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Howard Brazee wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:43:56 -0400, "kurttrail"
wrote:

Except I'm smart enough to see that we all pay for the damage.
And I would prefer to be protected from that fool's actions. But
then I'd be as big of a fool as Kurt is, and just as deserving of
the consequences.


What consequences are there for you if someone gets spyware on their
computer?


First, this discussion applies just as well for all mal-ware.


No. Spyware and Viruses are different things with different
consequences.

Spyware doesn't try to infect any computer other than the local
computer.


1. When the people who produce the mal-ware get rewarded, more gets
created. They get more resources and develop ways to get into better
protected systems. I have to spend more time and money protecting
myself. I want to see those *******s in the poorhouse.


Yeah, and I want to see the end to corporate welfare, and raising the
capital gains tax on anyone making more than $100,000 dollars. But I'm
not gonna hold my breath.

2. When the fools spread their mal-ware, more of our business
resources are spent fighting them. When the costs of business rise,
consumers pay.


LOL! Most spyware comes from free programs or free web content.

3. When there is more noise on the Internet, it is more work to sift
out the useful parts. I have better things to do.


LOL! Then start petitioning your government to start regulating the
internet. Create a special interest group, and lobby your politicians.

4. Some people have reason to have data about people I care about on
computers. I don't want those people compromised by phishers or
others.


I want world peace, if we are gonna talk about pipe dreams.

In general, I'd rather see the mal-ware producers frustrated. They
won't be as long as there are easy targets.


And there will be easy targets as long as people keep enabling the fools
that infect their computers. They are like the mice that keep pushing
the lever that dispenses the cocaine until they die. If you don't
vitually beat some sense into them, they'll just keep infecting their
computers. Touchy-feely enabling answers just don't work. Negative
reinforcement is necessary.

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  #48  
Old September 23rd 05, 06:21 AM
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Kephryn wrote:
kurttrail wrote:
Kephryn wrote:

Fitz wrote:

Amen to that.

I dont see where this discussion is going.

What get linux so fat people dont have to clean spyware?



Use common sense while browsing the web, and if you end up getting
your computer infected with spyware, find out how to remove it on
your own, as there are plenty of web pages with the info.

IOW, Don't be a fat lazy fool that expects to get help from others
every time you stub your toe, as you should have been looking where
you were going in the first place.


I understand your point of view, but if that is the only reason of the
discussion and your participation then there isnt a point to your
point of view.


Sure there is. Giving negative reinforcement to the enablers. ;-)

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  #49  
Old September 23rd 05, 06:56 AM
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Knowledge, from where ever it comes, is a good thing. Sounds like you're
upset because people don't use Google to find an answer rather than come to
the newsgroups/forums. I don't see in the OP's post where he says he's a
high level pro.--
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"kurttrail" wrote in message
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Fitz wrote:
It sounds like you're advocating that newsgroups/forums be eliminated
so that no one with knowledge can be an "enabler".


Again quote me.

The OP is a self-professed "high level pro" and really has no good excuse
for infecting his computer with spyware, and should be smart enough to
find his own answer instead of begging for one.

I suspect the OP is only a pro at getting high.

I've found that I
gain a great deal of knowledge and information from these groups. I'd had
to see the groups go. Didn't realize that I was being
enabled by reading these groups.


If you ask questions that are easily found by googling and instead come
begging for someone to give you the easy answer, then yes you are being
enabled.

BTW, I don't have any scumware on
my computer.


Did I say you did?

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  #50  
Old September 23rd 05, 02:11 PM
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Fitz wrote:
Knowledge, from where ever it comes, is a good thing.


Not when it enables lazy & foolish behavior.

Sounds like
you're upset because people don't use Google to find an answer rather
than come to the newsgroups/forums.


Sh*t-for-brains, I ain't upset at all. I'm just showing spyware
infections are totally preventable and usually caused by fat lazy fools.

If you want to be part of the solution, then you should treat these
fools as fools.

If you want to be part of the problem, then keep help these fools like
they were victims.

I don't see in the OP's post
where he says he's a high level pro.


The fool only has 3 posts in this thread. Either you are an idiot that
doesn't know how to do a simple search, or you are a lazy piece of sh*t
that didn't try very hard.

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without permission. ***

"kurttrail" wrote in
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Fitz wrote:
It sounds like you're advocating that newsgroups/forums be
eliminated so that no one with knowledge can be an "enabler".


Again quote me.

The OP is a self-professed "high level pro" and really has no good
excuse for infecting his computer with spyware, and should be smart
enough to find his own answer instead of begging for one.

I suspect the OP is only a pro at getting high.

I've found that I
gain a great deal of knowledge and information from these groups.
I'd had to see the groups go. Didn't realize that I was being
enabled by reading these groups.


If you ask questions that are easily found by googling and instead
come begging for someone to give you the easy answer, then yes you
are being enabled.

BTW, I don't have any scumware on
my computer.


Did I say you did?

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  #51  
Old September 23rd 05, 04:13 PM
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Fitz wrote:
Knowledge, from where ever it comes, is a good thing. Sounds like you're
upset because people don't use Google to find an answer rather than come to
the newsgroups/forums.


Fritz, he's just another pathetic troll who feeds on attention...ANY
kind
of attention. By being argumentative, he can at least get some to
respond,
and remind himself that he's being noticed.

I don't see in the OP's post where he says he's a
high level pro.--


Correct. I never stated anywhere that *I* was any high-level pro.
(Anyone can check the posts for themselves.)
This attention-starved loser changed what I wrote into what he
wanted it to say. Even an armchair psychologist could identify
this type: Probably reasonably intelligent, but a total failure
with career, personal relationships, etc... likely doesn't support
himself, and likely ridiculed by everyone he comes in contact with,
as was illustrated here. BTW, except for this clunker, these
Windows groups have some pretty good dudes reading and posting.
Misfits like kunttail are part of what's destroying USENET.

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  #52  
Old September 23rd 05, 04:22 PM
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Thanks for the reply and I agree. Newsgroups and forums are a great place
to learn. I've found that the real techs in these groups don't mind helping
folks. I've posted some replies that I hope have helped some people with
problems but I've gained much more than I imparted. Cheers!
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NEVER download files from anywhere unless it is from the website of the
developer, manufacturer or some entity that you trust. They ALWAYS have the
most up to date files that haven't been tampered with by some third party
who is "hosting" (read Leeching) those files without permission.
***

wrote in message
ups.com...

Fitz wrote:
Knowledge, from where ever it comes, is a good thing. Sounds like you're
upset because people don't use Google to find an answer rather than come
to
the newsgroups/forums.


Fritz, he's just another pathetic troll who feeds on attention...ANY
kind
of attention. By being argumentative, he can at least get some to
respond,
and remind himself that he's being noticed.

I don't see in the OP's post where he says he's a
high level pro.--


Correct. I never stated anywhere that *I* was any high-level pro.
(Anyone can check the posts for themselves.)
This attention-starved loser changed what I wrote into what he
wanted it to say. Even an armchair psychologist could identify
this type: Probably reasonably intelligent, but a total failure
with career, personal relationships, etc... likely doesn't support
himself, and likely ridiculed by everyone he comes in contact with,
as was illustrated here. BTW, except for this clunker, these
Windows groups have some pretty good dudes reading and posting.
Misfits like kunttail are part of what's destroying USENET.

--
Flores



  #53  
Old September 23rd 05, 04:38 PM
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wrote:
Fitz wrote:
Knowledge, from where ever it comes, is a good thing. Sounds like
you're upset because people don't use Google to find an answer
rather than come to the newsgroups/forums.


Fritz, he's just another pathetic troll who feeds on attention...ANY
kind
of attention. By being argumentative, he can at least get some to
respond,
and remind himself that he's being noticed.


I could care less if anyone responds or not, I'd still post my opinion
about fools like you that are too fat, lazy, and stupid to keep spyware
off of their computers.

I don't see in the OP's post where he says he's a
high level pro.--


Correct. I never stated anywhere that *I* was any high-level pro.


No, you just made it part of an excuse about getting spyware.

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...4a9cbe27f796e2

(Anyone can check the posts for themselves.)


There's the link above.

This attention-starved loser changed what I wrote into what he
wanted it to say. Even an armchair psychologist could identify
this type: Probably reasonably intelligent, but a total failure
with career, personal relationships, etc... likely doesn't support
himself, and likely ridiculed by everyone he comes in contact with,
as was illustrated here.


LOL! Nothing like some fool that got his feelings hurt trying to
psychoanalyze the person that hurt their feeling by expresssing the
truth!

BTW, except for this clunker, these
Windows groups have some pretty good dudes reading and posting.
Misfits like kunttail are part of what's destroying USENET.


ROFL! That's really funny coming from a total idiot that installed
spyware on his/her/it's computer, then had to beg for help.

So if you aren't a high-level pro, what is your real excuse for being so
stupid as to need to remove spyware from your computer. The sun was in
your eyes? Your time of the month? Drain Bamage?

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Old September 23rd 05, 04:43 PM
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Fitz wrote:
Thanks for the reply and I agree. Newsgroups and forums are a great
place to learn. I've found that the real techs in these groups don't
mind helping folks. I've posted some replies that I hope have helped
some people with problems but I've gained much more than I imparted.
Cheers!


Don't strain yourself by patting yourself on the back!

The problem with helping some people is that just enables them to remain
ignorant about comuputers, just like giving a kid all the answers to the
homework doesn't help them to learn and find out the answers for
themselves. All it does is get them reliant on getting someone else to
give them the answers to their homework.

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Old September 23rd 05, 04:53 PM
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kurttrail wrote:

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The problem with helping some people is that just enables them...


Enabling.

Is that similar to what people do when they feed into your silly,
little tirades, by responding to your posts?

Notan
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Old September 23rd 05, 05:07 PM
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Notan wrote:
kurttrail wrote:

snip

The problem with helping some people is that just enables them...


Enabling.

Is that similar to what people do when they feed into your silly,
little tirades, by responding to your posts?


ROFL! What exactly did you feel was a tirade? And if you feel that
responding to my posts could be enabling me, why did you respond to my
post, and enabling me some more?

If you haven't noticed, but I'm laughing at the whole bunch of you.
Fools and enablers of fools. PSML!

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Old September 23rd 05, 06:04 PM
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"Notan" wrote in message
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kurttrail wrote:

snip

The problem with helping some people is that just enables them...


Enabling.

Is that similar to what people do when they feed into your silly,
little tirades, by responding to your posts?

Notan


You mean, like you just did?


  #58  
Old September 23rd 05, 07:29 PM
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Jone Doe wrote:

"Notan" wrote in message
...
kurttrail wrote:

snip

The problem with helping some people is that just enables them...


Enabling.

Is that similar to what people do when they feed into your silly,
little tirades, by responding to your posts?

Notan


You mean, like you just did?


Catch-22.

Notan
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Old September 23rd 05, 07:36 PM
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Notan wrote:
Jone Doe wrote:

"Notan" wrote in message
...
kurttrail wrote:

snip

The problem with helping some people is that just enables them...

Enabling.

Is that similar to what people do when they feed into your silly,
little tirades, by responding to your posts?

Notan


You mean, like you just did?


Catch-22.


Nope, KnowNothing. You could have responded to another poster in this
thread, instead of me, and asked them if they weren't enabling me by
responding to me.

Too bad you weren't bright enough to figure out a non-hypocritical way
of expressing your opinion! ;-)

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Old September 23rd 05, 08:19 PM
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although it's obvious you don't have a clue, I know who I was replying to,
and the statement I was replying to also. And I suspect everyone else who
read the post also knew.

And just to annoy you, I will top post this time.

"kurttrail" wrote in message
...
Notan wrote:
Jone Doe wrote:

"Notan" wrote in message
...
kurttrail wrote:

snip

The problem with helping some people is that just enables them...

Enabling.

Is that similar to what people do when they feed into your silly,
little tirades, by responding to your posts?

Notan

You mean, like you just did?


Catch-22.


Nope, KnowNothing. You could have responded to another poster in this
thread, instead of me, and asked them if they weren't enabling me by
responding to me.

Too bad you weren't bright enough to figure out a non-hypocritical way of
expressing your opinion! ;-)

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