Pairing Win 7 & Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 via Bluetooth

Has anyone else tried to pair via Bluetooth a Win 7 PC, Ultimate Edition
if it matters, and a Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 SM-T719, LTE edition? I can
link the two by USB cable, and copy data between the two, but now I have
a potential need to link the two by Bluetooth.

I authenticate between the two successfully, but then W7 complains that
it doesn't have drivers for three new devices labelled ...
Bluetooth Peripheral Device
.... and that it can't find them by searching the web. There are no
drivers on the Samsung support page for that device:
https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/m...M-T719NZWEDBT/

I've tried ringing Samsung support, but got a thicko who couldn't
understand why I would be ringing Samsung mobile support for Windows
drivers, and who wanted to transfer me to their Windows support, but I
wouldn't let him, saying that I had a Samsung tablet, not a Samsung PC.
Finally, he gave an email address for their technical support helpdesk,
I've emailed them, and received an acknowledgement, but as yet no useful
help.

In the meantime, has anyone else come up against this sort of problem
when pairing a W7 PC and a Samsung mobile, and can they suggest anything
to help?

TIA

In article , lid says...

Has anyone else tried to pair via Bluetooth a Win 7 PC, Ultimate Edition
if it matters, and a Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 SM-T719, LTE edition? I can
link the two by USB cable, and copy data between the two, but now I have
a potential need to link the two by Bluetooth.

I authenticate between the two successfully, but then W7 complains that
it doesn't have drivers for three new devices labelled ...
Bluetooth Peripheral Device
... and that it can't find them by searching the web. There are no
drivers on the Samsung support page for that device:
https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/m...M-T719NZWEDBT/

I've tried ringing Samsung support, but got a thicko who couldn't
understand why I would be ringing Samsung mobile support for Windows
drivers, and who wanted to transfer me to their Windows support, but I
wouldn't let him, saying that I had a Samsung tablet, not a Samsung PC.
Finally, he gave an email address for their technical support helpdesk,
I've emailed them, and received an acknowledgement, but as yet no useful
help.

In the meantime, has anyone else come up against this sort of problem
when pairing a W7 PC and a Samsung mobile, and can they suggest anything
to help?

TIA

I've tried to connect a couple of phones via Bluetooth to a 64 bit Win7
pc. They've all seemed to connect and even autenticate themselves (e.g.
code matches) but nothing else. I don't own a phone myself so it's only
been trial and experiment when I notice someone visiting has one with
Bluetooth.

What little research I've done suggesst Bluetooth is not very good over
any distance at all. Makes me wonder how good it'd work running these
Bluetooth speakers etc. outside on the patio with pc upstairs on
opposite side of house or in basement recroom etc.

In message
pjp wrote:

What little research I've done suggesst Bluetooth is not very good over
any distance at all. Makes me wonder how good it'd work running these
Bluetooth speakers etc. outside on the patio with pc upstairs on
opposite side of house or in basement recroom etc.

Bluetooth was only ever conceived as a short distance system. The
standard recognises different classes, which represent different
transmit powers. Class 1 can give up to 100 metres range, but only
under good line-of-sight conditions, and aren't common. Wikipedia
suggests (and I believe it) that most devices are class 2, which
equates to a range of about 10 metres, again under good line-of-sight
conditions. Real life ranges will in most circumstances be less.

So you shouldn't expect Bluetooth to work in the circumstances you
describe above.

David

Java Jive wrote:
Has anyone else tried to pair via Bluetooth a Win 7 PC, Ultimate Edition
if it matters, and a Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 SM-T719, LTE edition? I can
link the two by USB cable, and copy data between the two, but now I have
a potential need to link the two by Bluetooth.

I authenticate between the two successfully, but then W7 complains that
it doesn't have drivers for three new devices labelled ...
Bluetooth Peripheral Device
... and that it can't find them by searching the web. There are no
drivers on the Samsung support page for that device:
https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/m...M-T719NZWEDBT/

I've tried ringing Samsung support, but got a thicko who couldn't
understand why I would be ringing Samsung mobile support for Windows
drivers, and who wanted to transfer me to their Windows support, but I
wouldn't let him, saying that I had a Samsung tablet, not a Samsung PC.
Finally, he gave an email address for their technical support helpdesk,
I've emailed them, and received an acknowledgement, but as yet no useful
help.

In the meantime, has anyone else come up against this sort of problem
when pairing a W7 PC and a Samsung mobile, and can they suggest anything
to help?

TIA

I presume your Device Manager shows a Bluetooth entry,
and there are no yellow marks ? Start : Run : devmgmt.msc
to have a Device Manager.

If you have an "Other Devices", and there is an unknown
entry, try doing Properties : Details : HardwareID and
Google the HardwareID and see if that's your Bluetooth
(sans drivers). Things show up in "Other Devices" instead
of in the Bluetooth entry, if they haven't received
Windows drivers yet. If you purchase a Bluetooth USB nano
unit, the driver CD is probably in the box it came in.
*Don't* purchase electronics without a driver CD!
The driver CD is proof the manufacturer gives a damn.

Once a BT driver is in place, Bluetooth uses a "stack". The
OSes will vary on where that stack comes from. On Win7,
I would guess you need the stack that came on the CD
with the Bluetooth device. If the Bluetooth is built
into the machine, was there from the beginning, check
the laptop website driver page, and see if there is a
Bluetooth stack to use for Win7.

I think Win10 has a Bluetooth stack as a built-in, but
one test case I ran on Win10 was a dismal failure. It
appeared they'd never considered the possibility of
running of PicoNet, between two machines...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_stack

Windows
* 1.4.1 Microsoft Bluetooth Stack
* 1.4.2 Broadcom WIDCOMM (BTW)
* 1.4.3 Toshiba Bluetooth Stack
* 1.4.4 CSR Harmony
* 1.4.5 IVT BlueSoleil (1000Moons)
* 1.4.6 AVM BlueFRITZ!
* 1.4.7 Digianswer BTSWS

I think at least one Bluetooth stack like that,
could be purchased as a separate item. Back when
the stacks weren't equal, and some had more
profiles than others.

Just about every stack has A2DP so you can use audio
headphones or earpieces.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tooth_profiles

So that's a few things to check.

Bluetooth is "the most rubbish you can get for $25",
and I expect 90% of purchased items are just thrown
in the trash in disgust. I wasn't too impressed with
what I got.

Bluetooth and Wifi operate at 2.5GHz or so. And
emissions from USB3 cables happen to have a broad
peak at 2.5GHz. While doing your first pairing
experiments, try not to be doing a backup on your
USB3 hard drive, at the same instant in time. Unplug
any unnecessary USB3 for a moment, until you've got it
all running. USB2 and USB1 don't have nearly the same
problems on emissions. My BT devices only work at a distance
of six feet (did I mention "rubbish"?).

Paul

On 07/03/2019 19:57, Paul wrote:
Java Jive wrote:
Has anyone else tried to pair via Bluetooth a Win 7 PC, Ultimate
Edition if it matters, and a Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 SM-T719, LTE
edition?Â* I can link the two by USB cable, and copy data between the
two, but now I have a potential need to link the two by Bluetooth.

I authenticate between the two successfully, but then W7 complains
that it doesn't have drivers for three new devices labelled ...
Â*Â*Â* Bluetooth Peripheral Device
... and that it can't find them by searching the web.Â* There are no
drivers on the Samsung support page for that device:
Â*Â*Â* https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/m...M-T719NZWEDBT/

I presume your Device Manager shows a Bluetooth entry,
and there are no yellow marks?

No, as in my OP, Device Manager shows three devices with exclamation
marks labelled 'Bluetooth Peripheral Device'.

On Win7,
I would guess you need the stack that came on the CD
with the Bluetooth device. If the Bluetooth is built
into the machine, was there from the beginning, check
the laptop website driver page, and see if there is a
Bluetooth stack to use for Win7.

I think I have the Bluetooth Stack. In the past I've successfully
paired with my (now dead) Samsung Galaxy S2 mobile phone, and just now
with another laptop as a test case. However the other PC with this same
build, but downgraded to Home Premium, can't install 'drivers' for that
same laptop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tooth_profiles

So that's a few things to check.

Bluetooth is "the most rubbish you can get for $25",
and I expect 90% of purchased items are just thrown
in the trash in disgust. I wasn't too impressed with
what I got.

I've definitely had it working in the past, my problem now is
rediscovering how!

In alt.windows7.general, on Thu, 7 Mar 2019 21:12:55 +0000, Java Jive
wrote:

On 07/03/2019 19:57, Paul wrote:
Java Jive wrote:
Has anyone else tried to pair via Bluetooth a Win 7 PC, Ultimate
Edition if it matters, and a Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 SM-T719, LTE
edition?* I can link the two by USB cable, and copy data between the
two, but now I have a potential need to link the two by Bluetooth.

I authenticate between the two successfully, but then W7 complains
that it doesn't have drivers for three new devices labelled ...
*** Bluetooth Peripheral Device
... and that it can't find them by searching the web.* There are no
drivers on the Samsung support page for that device:
*** https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/m...M-T719NZWEDBT/

I presume your Device Manager shows a Bluetooth entry,
and there are no yellow marks?

No, as in my OP, Device Manager shows three devices with exclamation
marks labelled 'Bluetooth Peripheral Device'.

First, Could it be a problem that my little Bluetooth receiver (half the
size of a penny) is plugged into a USB hub, and not the laptop
directly?? I don't think the Dell Latitude E4300 came with bluetooth.


In my situation, win7 on a Dell laptop, it came on with a little box
that meant it was looking for drivers. I disconnected the bluetooth
gizmo last night but didn't get that same box again today.

It had 4 lines and it found all 4 things and in the Device Manager, it
has a section near the top (since it's in alphabetical order) Bluetooth
Radios, with two entries, Generic Bluetooth Radio and Microsoft
Bluetooth Enumerator.

Neither have yellow marks, and both say they are working properly.

Also a bluetooh icon appeared in the systray and right clicking that
gave 3 interesting choices.
Open Settings -- "Allow Bluetooth devices to find this computer" was
unchecked. I checked it and applied it. The other 3 were already
checked.

Show Bluetooth Devices -- none found. It shows All Control Panel
Items / Devices and Printers / Bluetooth Devices, none found. But when
I click on Devices and Printers, it shows 2 (built-in) printers and
faxes, 1unspecified (the usb spearkers), and 6 devices, the keyboard,
the webcam, the mouse, the computer itself, Generic Bluetooth Radio and
I missed this one at first, Android.
Clicking on the Generic Bluetooth Radio didn't work last night (It
showed Generic Bluetooth Radio Properties) so I'll try the Android
phone. (It just shows Android Properties)

Join a Personal Area Network E4300-PC-51560

Add a Device -- shows an image of a phone marked Redmi Bluetooth
phone



After several t ries finally got a new entry on my phone.
The category is Rarely Used Other Devices
The name is 00:11:22:98;76:54

Tapping it, it said Pairing, and then "Couldn't pair with [number above]
because of an incorrect PIN or passkey." but no request was given for
PIN.
Even though I've never sucessfully put a code number from one end into
the other end, Control Panel / Networks and Sharing Center seem to say
that the network is complete. Network Map would give the Wireless
Network of Redmi (my phone is Redmi) but it can't discover any computer
or device.

Tried the Trouble Shooter for both the Bluetooth Radio and the
Cellphone. No help

Somewhere along the line there was a Help button, which brought up "Add
a wireless or network device: frequently asked questions". Maybe it's
time I read that.

Well, so far, no luck. It actually asked my phone for the code,
suggesting 0000 and 1234, but neither worked.

On Win7,
I would guess you need the stack that came on the CD
with the Bluetooth device. If the Bluetooth is built
into the machine, was there from the beginning, check
the laptop website driver page, and see if there is a
Bluetooth stack to use for Win7.

I think I have the Bluetooth Stack. In the past I've successfully
paired with my (now dead) Samsung Galaxy S2 mobile phone, and just now
with another laptop as a test case. However the other PC with this same
build, but downgraded to Home Premium, can't install 'drivers' for that
same laptop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tooth_profiles

So that's a few things to check.

Bluetooth is "the most rubbish you can get for $25",
and I expect 90% of purchased items are just thrown
in the trash in disgust. I wasn't too impressed with
what I got.

I've definitely had it working in the past, my problem now is
rediscovering how!

On 08/03/2019 10:50, micky wrote:

Well, so far, no luck. It actually asked my phone for the code,
suggesting 0000 and 1234, but neither worked.

Yes, I've seen that too. What seems to fix it is on each device to
remove or forget the other, then try to pair again, and then the
originating devices creates and displays a key, and the target device
throws up a popup displaying that key and asking whether it is correct.

On 08/03/2019 10:50, micky wrote:

I don't think the Dell Latitude E4300 came with bluetooth.

Some did, most, I think, did not. The way to tell is to look at the
underside - if the area containing labels, electrical clearance
certificates, etc, has a label in every quadrant, then the laptop was
supplied ex-factory with Bluetooth, if, as is more usual, one quadrant
is blank and free of any labelling, then the laptop was supplied
ex-factory without Bluetooth, but you could still buy the module and
install it very easily yourself - it goes behind a cover in the
battery compartment, there's a connector there for it, even in the
models supplied without.

On 08/03/2019 18:41, Java Jive wrote:
On 08/03/2019 10:50, micky wrote:

I don't think the Dell Latitude E4300 came with bluetooth.

Some did, most, I think, did not.Â* The way to tell is to look at the
undersideÂ* -Â* if the area containing labels, electrical clearance
certificates, etc, has a label in every quadrant, then the laptop was
supplied ex-factory with Bluetooth, if, as is more usual, one quadrant
is blank and free of any labelling, then the laptop was supplied
ex-factory without Bluetooth, but you could still buy the module and
install it very easily yourselfÂ* -Â* it goes behind a cover in the
battery compartment, there's a connector there for it, even in the
models supplied without.

If it's the same module that went into the Inspiron 9400, I have one
spare if anyone wants it. Free to a good home. Don't think I have the
driver disc for it any more, but it should be downloadable.


--
Ria in Aberdeen

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In alt.windows7.general, on Fri, 08 Mar 2019 12:50:17 +0200, micky
wrote:


After several t ries finally got a new entry on my phone.
The category is Rarely Used Other Devices
The name is 00:11:22:98;76:54

Tonight I got a new result.

The phone lists Connected Devices:

e4300-PC (my laptop)
00:22:5f:38:b2:3a

But I still don't know how to play the output.

Also, even after this showed up on the phone, I checked the Bluetooth
settinfgs for the laptop and Allow devices to discover this computer"
was again unchecked.

Checking it and clicking apply made the fuction freeze and eventually
fail. When I clicked Okay, it said I had indeed changed the setting,
but i unchecked it, checked it again and said Apply, and again it is
Not Responding. But how did the phone connect to the PC if the PC was
set to not be discoverable?

In alt.windows7.general, on Sat, 09 Mar 2019 21:04:28 +0200, micky
wrote:

In alt.windows7.general, on Fri, 08 Mar 2019 12:50:17 +0200, micky
wrote:


After several t ries finally got a new entry on my phone.
The category is Rarely Used Other Devices
The name is 00:11:22:98;76:54

Tonight I got a new result.

The phone lists Connected Devices:

e4300-PC (my laptop)
00:22:5f:38:b2:3a

List me as stupid. This was under Hotspots. The phone is connected
as a hotspot to the PC.

I still haven't gotten connected with Bluetooth, but I did get closer
this time.

The PC offered me a 6 or 7 digit number to enter into t he phone. I
don't know how to enter it in the phone but I clicked on something and
got a screen with 3 methods to connect. I shoudl have written them
down but the last was Connect Without a Code. and I clicked on that
and it connected, and said it was downloading drivers.

That ended with,
The drivers for this device are not installed. (code 28)

I'm working on that right now.


But I still don't know how to play the output.

Also, even after this showed up on the phone, I checked the Bluetooth
settinfgs for the laptop and Allow devices to discover this computer"
was again unchecked.

Checking it and clicking apply made the fuction freeze and eventually
fail. When I clicked Okay, it said I had indeed changed the setting,
but i unchecked it, checked it again and said Apply, and again it is
Not Responding. But how did the phone connect to the PC if the PC was
set to not be discoverable?

On 07/03/2019 21:12, Java Jive wrote:

I think I have the Bluetooth Stack.Â* In the past I've successfully
paired with my (now dead) Samsung Galaxy S2 mobile phone, and just now
with another laptop as a test case.Â* However the other PC with this same
build, but downgraded to Home Premium, can't install 'drivers' for that
same laptop.

There's been some developments wrt this, but I'll put them in a reply to
my OP, so that the information is all in one place.

On 07/03/2019 18:07, Java Jive wrote:
Has anyone else tried to pair via Bluetooth a Win 7 PC, Ultimate Edition
if it matters, and a Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 SM-T719, LTE edition? I can
link the two by USB cable, and copy data between the two, but now I have
a potential need to link the two by Bluetooth.

I authenticate between the two successfully, but then W7 complains that
it doesn't have drivers for three new devices labelled ...
Bluetooth Peripheral Device
... and that it can't find them by searching the web. There are no
drivers on the Samsung support page for that device:
https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/m...M-T719NZWEDBT/

I've tried ringing Samsung support, but got a thicko who couldn't
understand why I would be ringing Samsung mobile support for Windows
drivers, and who wanted to transfer me to their Windows support, but I
wouldn't let him, saying that I had a Samsung tablet, not a Samsung PC.
Finally, he gave an email address for their technical support helpdesk,
I've emailed them, and received an acknowledgement, but as yet no useful
help.

In the meantime, has anyone else come up against this sort of problem
when pairing a W7 PC and a Samsung mobile, and can they suggest anything
to help?

TIA

Does it need to be bluetooth?

FTP over WiFi works quite well between W7 and Android devices.
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Roger
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On 07/03/2019 21:52, Roger Mills wrote:

Does it need to be bluetooth?

Perhaps not. I'll explain my need and see what others suggest.

There is in my wider family's safekeeping, but which rightfully belongs
to me, a very beautiful antique book, which because of an unforeseen
horrendous problem I've decided must be sold to fund my house
renovations, but, beforehand, I'd like to photograph the hand-painted
pictures that it contains. I had considered scanning it, but it's too
big, so some of the images would need to be scanned piecemeal, and I'm
worried that the book might not survive such rough handling as to be
perched on a scanner.

So I've decided to try and photograph it using my tablet. I'll
construct some sort of frame to hold the tablet securely a suitable
height over the book, and try and find a suitable source of
illumination. The need therefore is a way of controlling the tablet's
camera from a PC, either via WiFi, Bluetooth, or USB cable.

After managing late last night to pair the tablet with one of my W7
laptops, I tried some software called Camera Remote PC Sync (on the PC)
and Camera Remote (on the tablet). This pair of apps are supposed to be
able to connect either via Bluetooth or WiFi, but if the PC side tries
to connect to the tablet side via WiFi, the tablet app bombs, so it has
to be Bluetooth. I could do the job with this software, but it would
require a great deal of time and patience, because it's clunky in the
extreme - the PC window is too big for the height of my laptop's
screen even though that is fairly standard dimensions for a laptop
screen; some of the dialogs have black text on a black background; you
can only download one picture at a time, not mark a whole lot of them
and download them all at once, and each time you do a download, the
software begins by defaulting to the User's folder on the C: drive, thus
necessitating a wearisome navigation back to the D: drive to save it
where I actually want to save it; etc; etc!

So if anyone here can suggest suitable software to allow a PC to control
an Android tablet's camera relatively painlessly, I'd be very grateful
to know.

In article , Java Jive
wrote:

There is in my wider family's safekeeping, but which rightfully belongs
to me, a very beautiful antique book, which because of an unforeseen
horrendous problem I've decided must be sold to fund my house
renovations, but, beforehand, I'd like to photograph the hand-painted
pictures that it contains. I had considered scanning it, but it's too
big, so some of the images would need to be scanned piecemeal, and I'm
worried that the book might not survive such rough handling as to be
perched on a scanner.

So I've decided to try and photograph it using my tablet. I'll
construct some sort of frame to hold the tablet securely a suitable
height over the book, and try and find a suitable source of
illumination. The need therefore is a way of controlling the tablet's
camera from a PC, either via WiFi, Bluetooth, or USB cable.

for the best results, don't use a tablet. use an slr and a copy stand
or better yet, have it scanned by a professional lab who specializes in
such things, who will have a scanner that's both big enough and
designed for books which won't damage it.

but if you're committed to doing it yourself with a tablet, just take
the photos of each page using the tablet without involving the computer
at all, then after everything has been copied, connect the tablet to
the computer and copy all of the photos.