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Old March 30th 21, 06:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

Hello all,

Recently while trying to google something I've been getting redirects to a
"consent.google.com" page in relation to how I want to have my private data
to be used [1]. (the answer to which is: in no way at all)

Question: has anybody else come across the above and knows more about it ?
Possibly including how to skip/suppress it ?

I've been able to get rid of it a few times by closing the browser (which
throws away all cookies) and opening a new one, but just now that trick
didn't work instantly anymore - had to leave some time between closing and
opening the new one, meaning I could be looking at that (nagging)
time-in-between becoming longer-and-longer ....

[1] With ofcourse the "no" choice leading to a page where all the tickboxes
are ticked, and I have to untick them one-by-one - in short, a "no" choice
which leads to a "yes, unless" page. I wonder if the "yes" choice goes to
a page where all tickboxes are *un*ticked, but for some reason I don't think
I will go and try it)

By the way: FF with JS disabled, and cookies set to session-only.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

P.s,
I know of and have been using DDG too.

P.p.s.
Lol. I tried to post this into this as well as the 7 and 10 newsgroups, but
got a "forbidden crosspost" error back. I already wondered why this
newsgroup got so few crossposted messages recently. Now I know. :-)




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Old March 30th 21, 11:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul in Houston TX[_2_]
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or justme ?

R.Wieser wrote:
Hello all,

Recently while trying to google something I've been getting redirects to a
"consent.google.com" page in relation to how I want to have my private data
to be used [1]. (the answer to which is: in no way at all)

Question: has anybody else come across the above and knows more about it ?
Possibly including how to skip/suppress it ?

I've been able to get rid of it a few times by closing the browser (which
throws away all cookies) and opening a new one, but just now that trick
didn't work instantly anymore - had to leave some time between closing and
opening the new one, meaning I could be looking at that (nagging)
time-in-between becoming longer-and-longer ....

[1] With ofcourse the "no" choice leading to a page where all the tickboxes
are ticked, and I have to untick them one-by-one - in short, a "no" choice
which leads to a "yes, unless" page. I wonder if the "yes" choice goes to
a page where all tickboxes are *un*ticked, but for some reason I don't think
I will go and try it)

By the way: FF with JS disabled, and cookies set to session-only.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

P.s,
I know of and have been using DDG too.

P.p.s.
Lol. I tried to post this into this as well as the 7 and 10 newsgroups, but
got a "forbidden crosspost" error back. I already wondered why this
newsgroup got so few crossposted messages recently. Now I know. :-)


I have never gotten that Google request or anything like it.
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Old March 31st 21, 02:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 17:32:10 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

R.Wieser wrote:
Hello all,

Recently while trying to google something I've been getting redirects to a
"consent.google.com" page in relation to how I want to have my private data
to be used [1]. (the answer to which is: in no way at all)

Question: has anybody else come across the above and knows more about it ?
Possibly including how to skip/suppress it ?

I've been able to get rid of it a few times by closing the browser (which
throws away all cookies) and opening a new one, but just now that trick
didn't work instantly anymore - had to leave some time between closing and
opening the new one, meaning I could be looking at that (nagging)
time-in-between becoming longer-and-longer ....

[1] With ofcourse the "no" choice leading to a page where all the tickboxes
are ticked, and I have to untick them one-by-one - in short, a "no" choice
which leads to a "yes, unless" page. I wonder if the "yes" choice goes to
a page where all tickboxes are *un*ticked, but for some reason I don't think
I will go and try it)

By the way: FF with JS disabled, and cookies set to session-only.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

P.s,
I know of and have been using DDG too.

P.p.s.
Lol. I tried to post this into this as well as the 7 and 10 newsgroups, but
got a "forbidden crosspost" error back. I already wondered why this
newsgroup got so few crossposted messages recently. Now I know. :-)


I have never gotten that Google request or anything like it.


Just don't use google.
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Old March 31st 21, 09:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

gfretwell,

Just don't use google.


With it returning less-and-less relevant "hits" (and those drowning in
lots-and-lots of unrelated crap) I am already looking at other search
engines. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Old March 31st 21, 09:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

Paul,

I have never gotten that Google request or anything like it.


Up until recently, neither did I.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Old April 1st 21, 09:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Les Wollen
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

R.Wieser wrote:

Recently while trying to google something I've been getting redirects to a
"consent.google.com" page in relation to how I want to have my private data
to be used [1]. (the answer to which is: in no way at all)

Question: has anybody else come across the above and knows more about it ?


You are in the EU where the GDPR [Datenschutz-Grundverordnung] applies.
Google has had the fear of GDPR driven into it. Google must now ask for
your consent when it wants to use your private data.

You are asking people who are not in the EU and where the GDPR does not
apply. Google will simply use their private data without asking. They
will not see the consent page.


Possibly including how to skip/suppress it ?


Use a VPN which makes you appear to be in (say) North America where the
GDPR does not apply.

Those who don't get asked, will get their private data used by Google
without asking. That is the cost you will pay to suppress it.

It would be foolish to equate not being asked for consent with not
having your private data used.


I've been able to get rid of it a few times by closing the browser (which
throws away all cookies) and opening a new one, but just now that trick
didn't work instantly anymore


By the way: FF with JS disabled, and cookies set to session-only.


In the past, Google's general approach to Google settings was to save
your Google preferences in cookies on your browser. (When you throw away
cookies, you have to re-enter all your Google settings again.)

These days, Google is moving to requiring everyone to log in to Google
to have their Google settings remembered on Google's servers.

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Old April 1st 21, 02:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

Les,

Google has had the fear of GDPR driven into it.


Than that fear has not been driven deep enough into them, as it also states
that it may *not* be used as an entry-blocker ("cookie wall") - which it now
has been set up as.

Also, I've just gone thru that consent - change page (which does some
doubletalk about the(ir) usage of cookies) and selected all "No"s. The
looking at the google.com - consent cookie ot contains a largely unreadable
string (identifying me as a person?) starting with "YES+". I don't know
about you, but that doesn't look kosher to me ...

Use a VPN which makes you appear to be in (say) North America
where the GDPR does not apply.


Lol. Just clicking "I agree" (just do anything with my data you wish)
would than be a lot easier. :-)

I was more thinking of the availability of some kind of an url argument to
convey my choice.

And by the way, I've gone thru that "consent" page (selecting all "no"s
ofcourse) and now get redirected to "consent.youtube.com" - which I have
never used on this (work) 'puter and is even domain-blocked on it. IOW, I
can't even progress. :-|

These days, Google is moving to requiring everyone to log in to
Google to have their Google settings remembered on Google's
servers.


That would be a bit of a problem, as I just use their search engine, and
nothing else. (no facebook or other "social media", no "google groups",
nothing)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Old April 1st 21, 04:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
JJ[_14_]
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 15:30:37 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

Lol. Just clicking "I agree" (just do anything with my data you wish)
would than be a lot easier. :-)


They doe it even before we clicked "I agree"/"Yes" anyway.

The GDPR doesn't protect visitors, it protect the websites (from being
sued).
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Old April 5th 21, 03:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

"R.Wieser" wrote:

Than that fear has not been driven deep enough into them, as it also states
that it may *not* be used as an entry-blocker ("cookie wall") - which it now
has been set up as.


That's what "consent" is all about. *YOU* have to consent to allowing
them to create a cookie for your web session -- but that doesn't mean
you have to retain their cookie after exiting your web browser (Firefox
lets you purge all locally cached data on its exit, Google Chrome
requires an extension, like Click&Clean, and C-Edge has its purge on
exit setting).

Google is showing you a redirected web page. Many sites use an overlay
that you have to Okay to remove. GPDR doesn't say how the visitor is
informed, only that they be informed.

Lol. Just clicking "I agree" (just do anything with my data you wish)
would than be a lot easier. :-)


Agree, and then delete all cookies (and other locally cached data, like
DOM Storage) when exiting the web browser. Of course, that means the
cookie won't be there on your next visit, so you'll get queried again.
Ain't GPDR so grand. Glad I don't live there; however, many US sites
are employing GPDR notification, because they're a worldwide enterprise.

I purge all localled cached data by the web browser on its exit. Yep,
that means I have to enter my login credentials every time I revisit a
site where I have to login to an account.
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Old April 5th 21, 04:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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VanguardLH,

That's what "consent" is all about. *YOU* have to consent to
allowing them to create a cookie for your web session


Lol. Trolling much ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Old April 6th 21, 08:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

"R.Wieser" wrote in message
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VanguardLH,

That's what "consent" is all about. *YOU* have to consent to
allowing them to create a cookie for your web session


Lol. Trolling much ?


By the way, the above was the best of three : the other possibilities are
that you have no clue what the GDPR law stands for, or that you are
willfully misrepresenting it. But as I'm an "all around good guy" (yeah,
right :-) ) I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

And for the off chance that you simply have no clue : session cookies - as
part of the "functional cookie" group - are excluded from the GDPR
requirements.

The rest of your post didn't do any better.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Old April 5th 21, 05:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mayayana
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

"VanguardLH" wrote

| Google is showing you a redirected web page. Many sites use an overlay
| that you have to Okay to remove.

That's getting worse and worse. I suspect in the US
they're being used as just one more way to force script.
I typically just switch to no-CSS. But I think I'm going to
start making a list of classes to hide in userContent.css.
I suspect a lot of sites are using standard templates.


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Old May 6th 21, 12:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 09:51:13 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
"R.Wieser" wrote:

Than that fear has not been driven deep enough into them, as it also states
that it may *not* be used as an entry-blocker ("cookie wall") - which it now
has been set up as.


That's what "consent" is all about.


But the fact is that almost all of them don't actually ask for a consent.
They simply notify us, that cookies will be given for whatever reason they
please. Even _before_ we click that Yes/OK/Accept/Agree button or link.

From what I see, GDPR is meant to _protect_ website owners from being sued
by visitors. It's not meant to protect website visitors.
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Old May 6th 21, 12:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mayayana
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"JJ" wrote

| But the fact is that almost all of them don't actually ask for a consent.
| They simply notify us, that cookies will be given for whatever reason they
| please. Even _before_ we click that Yes/OK/Accept/Agree button or link.
|

Yes, and they try to block the page until you OK it.
I get a kick out of npr.org. The masters of liberal guilt
trips now show me a page about once per week that
gives me a choice: "You can either accept our cookies
and be a decent person, or you can click "no" and we'll
show you a plain page with a handful of links that lead
to some plain-text news stories we'll allow you to see."

They're trying to make it look like a choice, while
punishing anyone who says no and treating them as
misbehaving children.


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Old May 6th 21, 02:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default Google is redirecting me to a "consent" page - is it new or just me ?

JJ,

But the fact is that almost all of them don't actually ask for a
consent. They simply notify us, that cookies will be given for
whatever reason they please. Even _before_ we click that
Yes/OK/Accept/Agree button or link.


I don't think that you, just like VanguardLH, are aware of what the GDPR is
really about. I give you a hint : Its /not/ about cookies.

From what I see, GDPR is meant to _protect_ website owners
from being sued by visitors. It's not meant to protect website visitors.


If that where so than just a "who progresses beyond this point" style of
banner or even a small-small-small text at he bottom of the page would have
been enough (shrink-wrap EULAs anyone?). The fact that the GDPR specifies
that the visitor has to be *activily* involved seems to indicate something
different.

Ofcourse, the GDPR is directly opposite the website-owners / companies
stance that nobody is allowed to deny them anything, so they try to trash
it. The mere fact that most all websites sites have a prominent "yes"
button, but no complementing "no" button should tell you enough in that
regard.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


 




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