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Old November 19th 09, 03:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger
Teija
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Default Windows Messenger 5.1 new sign-on problem

Can we keep using Windows Messenger 4.7, 5.0 and 5.1 in on o ur Windows XP
desktops at work for the foreseeable future? The interface is SOOO much
cleaner than the Windows Live Messenger.
In the past week or so we've have lots of problems with people not being
able to sign in:
1) The automatic signing-in process just keeps going without ever signing
the user in. They have to cancel sign-in and sometimes fully exit the program
before manually signing in.

2) Users are repeated being prompted to enter a display name with the
message: "Please provide a display name so you can sign in. Do not use your
e-mail address or leave the box blank. We now require a display name that is
not your e-mail address to protect you from e-mail virus attacks."

They enter their user name and are prompted again the next time they log
into their computer.

Any help on how to solve these would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
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Old November 19th 09, 04:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger
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Default Windows Messenger 5.1 new sign-on problem


We have recently seen this issue crop up at one of our client sites.
One fix I have seen that might help with the automatic sign-on process
hanging is to modify the registry setting for the server address to
which MSN is trying to connect. The registry key can be found at
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MessengerService\. Edit the String "Server" to
read messenger.hotmail.com;64.4.34.200:1863

I still don't know what is causing the repeated Display Name prompt,
but I am thinking it is something being forced down by Microsoft for
security reasons.

Let me know if that helps.


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Old November 19th 09, 06:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger
Teija
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Default Windows Messenger 5.1 new sign-on problem

Thanks for the prompt reply!
I had one client test it and it worked for solving the logging in problem.
I'll test a bit further and will report back.

Anyone with ideas about the repeated Display Name prompt?

"WindowsUser2009" wrote:


We have recently seen this issue crop up at one of our client sites.
One fix I have seen that might help with the automatic sign-on process
hanging is to modify the registry setting for the server address to
which MSN is trying to connect. The registry key can be found at
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MessengerService\. Edit the String "Server" to
read messenger.hotmail.com;64.4.34.200:1863

I still don't know what is causing the repeated Display Name prompt,
but I am thinking it is something being forced down by Microsoft for
security reasons.

Let me know if that helps.


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Old November 19th 09, 11:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger
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Default Windows Messenger 5.1 new sign-on problem

Display name prompts.
My forum entry immediately followed yours with this issue. I have been told
that it is related to having an incomplete profile on windows Live.
Particularly not having a full name. It seems that microsoft have
'tightened' security by forcing you to either add something (anything) as
your name in your profile or by making your life a pain by repeatedly asking
you for the display name that you have already entered. I haven't been able
to logon yet to windows live to prove this as there is a technical problem
with it. I expect it can't cope with all the people typing false names into
their profiles.

"Teija" wrote:

Can we keep using Windows Messenger 4.7, 5.0 and 5.1 in on o ur Windows XP
desktops at work for the foreseeable future? The interface is SOOO much
cleaner than the Windows Live Messenger.
In the past week or so we've have lots of problems with people not being
able to sign in:
1) The automatic signing-in process just keeps going without ever signing
the user in. They have to cancel sign-in and sometimes fully exit the program
before manually signing in.

2) Users are repeated being prompted to enter a display name with the
message: "Please provide a display name so you can sign in. Do not use your
e-mail address or leave the box blank. We now require a display name that is
not your e-mail address to protect you from e-mail virus attacks."

They enter their user name and are prompted again the next time they log
into their computer.

Any help on how to solve these would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

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Old November 19th 09, 11:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger
Kevbirder
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Default Windows Messenger 5.1 new sign-on problem

Display name prompts.
My forum entry immediately followed yours with this issue. I have been told
that it is related to having an incomplete profile on windows Live.
Particularly not having a full name. It seems that microsoft have
'tightened' security by forcing you to either add something (anything) as
your name in your profile or by making your life a pain by repeatedly asking
you for the display name that you have already entered. I haven't been able
to logon yet to windows live to prove this as there is a technical problem
with it. I expect it can't cope with all the people typing false names into
their profiles.

"Teija" wrote:

Can we keep using Windows Messenger 4.7, 5.0 and 5.1 in on o ur Windows XP
desktops at work for the foreseeable future? The interface is SOOO much
cleaner than the Windows Live Messenger.
In the past week or so we've have lots of problems with people not being
able to sign in:
1) The automatic signing-in process just keeps going without ever signing
the user in. They have to cancel sign-in and sometimes fully exit the program
before manually signing in.

2) Users are repeated being prompted to enter a display name with the
message: "Please provide a display name so you can sign in. Do not use your
e-mail address or leave the box blank. We now require a display name that is
not your e-mail address to protect you from e-mail virus attacks."

They enter their user name and are prompted again the next time they log
into their computer.

Any help on how to solve these would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

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Old November 20th 09, 02:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger
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This worked for me. Thanks! I am testing on some other accounts now,
and will report if I find out otherwise. Thanks again!


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Old November 23rd 09, 06:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger
Teija
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Default Windows Messenger 5.1 new sign-on problem

Thank you, Kevbirder. Your solution took care of the display name issue.

I'm still testing the registry modification suggested by WindowsUser2009.
Does that really stick even after reboots? I'll report back, and would love
to hear from anyone else with a suggestion.
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Old November 23rd 09, 06:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger
Teija
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Default Windows Messenger 5.1 new sign-on problem

Thank you, Kevbirder. Your solution took care of the display name issue.

I'm still testing the registry modification suggested by WindowsUser2009.
Does that really stick even after reboots? I'll report back, and would love
to hear from anyone else with a suggestion.
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Old November 23rd 09, 06:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger
Teija
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Default Windows Messenger 5.1 new sign-on problem

Sorry to report that the registry modification does not seem to work.

When you're signed into Windows Messenger, you can see the IP address listed
in HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MessengerService, so I edited it to match what
WindowsUser2009 suggested: messenger.hotmail.com;64.4.34.200;1863 (mine
originally had a different IP address - everything else was the same.

I wondered about this, because when you're NOT signed into Messenger,
there's no IP address after messenger.hotmail.com in the registry. So,
anyway, I made minde 64.4.34.200 and then signed out and exited .... so far,
so good. The IP stayed in my registry and I was able to start Messenger again
with no problems.

Next, I rebooted my computer to test further. To my disappointment, I was
right back to Messenger trying to start, the icon flashing with no success. I
canceled sign-in, exited the program, launched it again from Start, Programs,
Windows Messenger, and was now able to sign in.

Another little trick that worked was the following, which makes me wonder
whether this issue is somehow tied into Kevbirder's suggestion .... not sure
how, though. Here's what happened:

After I canceled the automatic sign-in that was NOT successful, I chose
"Sign In As..." and re-entered my password. It worked! WHY??

Take-away from this to me is that automatic sign-in does not work for
Windows Messenger version 5.1 (others?) any longer. Any ideas?
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Old November 23rd 09, 06:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger
Teija
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Default Windows Messenger 5.1 new sign-on problem

Sorry to report that the registry modification does not seem to work.

When you're signed into Windows Messenger, you can see the IP address listed
in HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MessengerService, so I edited it to match what
WindowsUser2009 suggested: messenger.hotmail.com;64.4.34.200;1863 (mine
originally had a different IP address - everything else was the same.

I wondered about this, because when you're NOT signed into Messenger,
there's no IP address after messenger.hotmail.com in the registry. So,
anyway, I made minde 64.4.34.200 and then signed out and exited .... so far,
so good. The IP stayed in my registry and I was able to start Messenger again
with no problems.

Next, I rebooted my computer to test further. To my disappointment, I was
right back to Messenger trying to start, the icon flashing with no success. I
canceled sign-in, exited the program, launched it again from Start, Programs,
Windows Messenger, and was now able to sign in.

Another little trick that worked was the following, which makes me wonder
whether this issue is somehow tied into Kevbirder's suggestion .... not sure
how, though. Here's what happened:

After I canceled the automatic sign-in that was NOT successful, I chose
"Sign In As..." and re-entered my password. It worked! WHY??

Take-away from this to me is that automatic sign-in does not work for
Windows Messenger version 5.1 (others?) any longer. Any ideas?
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Old December 11th 09, 06:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger
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Default Windows Messenger 5.1 new sign-on problem

OK folks, I have a friend that just called with this bit of repeated requests
for him to fill in a display name. This is a non-computer literate user. I am
not going to coach him on the phone to go into his registery file!

Any other approach? If he fills in a display name will the messages go away?


"Teija" wrote:

Sorry to report that the registry modification does not seem to work.

When you're signed into Windows Messenger, you can see the IP address listed
in HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MessengerService, so I edited it to match what
WindowsUser2009 suggested: messenger.hotmail.com;64.4.34.200;1863 (mine
originally had a different IP address - everything else was the same.

I wondered about this, because when you're NOT signed into Messenger,
there's no IP address after messenger.hotmail.com in the registry. So,
anyway, I made minde 64.4.34.200 and then signed out and exited .... so far,
so good. The IP stayed in my registry and I was able to start Messenger again
with no problems.

Next, I rebooted my computer to test further. To my disappointment, I was
right back to Messenger trying to start, the icon flashing with no success. I
canceled sign-in, exited the program, launched it again from Start, Programs,
Windows Messenger, and was now able to sign in.

Another little trick that worked was the following, which makes me wonder
whether this issue is somehow tied into Kevbirder's suggestion .... not sure
how, though. Here's what happened:

After I canceled the automatic sign-in that was NOT successful, I chose
"Sign In As..." and re-entered my password. It worked! WHY??

Take-away from this to me is that automatic sign-in does not work for
Windows Messenger version 5.1 (others?) any longer. Any ideas?

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Old December 11th 09, 06:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger
Trying to help folks
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Default Windows Messenger 5.1 new sign-on problem

OK folks, I have a friend that just called with this bit of repeated requests
for him to fill in a display name. This is a non-computer literate user. I am
not going to coach him on the phone to go into his registery file!

Any other approach? If he fills in a display name will the messages go away?


"Teija" wrote:

Sorry to report that the registry modification does not seem to work.

When you're signed into Windows Messenger, you can see the IP address listed
in HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MessengerService, so I edited it to match what
WindowsUser2009 suggested: messenger.hotmail.com;64.4.34.200;1863 (mine
originally had a different IP address - everything else was the same.

I wondered about this, because when you're NOT signed into Messenger,
there's no IP address after messenger.hotmail.com in the registry. So,
anyway, I made minde 64.4.34.200 and then signed out and exited .... so far,
so good. The IP stayed in my registry and I was able to start Messenger again
with no problems.

Next, I rebooted my computer to test further. To my disappointment, I was
right back to Messenger trying to start, the icon flashing with no success. I
canceled sign-in, exited the program, launched it again from Start, Programs,
Windows Messenger, and was now able to sign in.

Another little trick that worked was the following, which makes me wonder
whether this issue is somehow tied into Kevbirder's suggestion .... not sure
how, though. Here's what happened:

After I canceled the automatic sign-in that was NOT successful, I chose
"Sign In As..." and re-entered my password. It worked! WHY??

Take-away from this to me is that automatic sign-in does not work for
Windows Messenger version 5.1 (others?) any longer. Any ideas?

 




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