OT sort of : Printing web sites

This is not strictly an XP problem but this is a very helpful group.

I just tried to print the display of evaporative coolers at Home Depot
though Firefox. I get 20 coolers or more on the screen, but the printout
only shows 6 or so. I've seen this often at many web sites. The Firefox
print preview shows the same thing. This is very annoying.

Is this a Firefox problem or the web site is designed that way? Anyone
know?

Is there a way around this problem?

TIA

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"KenK" wrote in message
...

I just tried to print the display of evaporative coolers at Home Depot
though Firefox. I get 20 coolers or more on the screen, but the printout
only shows 6 or so. I've seen this often at many web sites. The Firefox
print preview shows the same thing. This is very annoying.

Is this a Firefox problem or the web site is designed that way? Anyone
know?

This is a web site problem, not yours. You may meet your
needs by the Windows PrintScreen key:
1. Maximise the browser window to fill the screen.
2. Adjust image size to get into view the samples you want.
3 Key Alt+PrintScreen.
4. Load your colour graphics app and /Copy/ onto a blank
file your screen image.
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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

On 8/18/16 11:09 AM, KenK wrote:
This is not strictly an XP problem but this is a very helpful group.

I just tried to print the display of evaporative coolers at Home Depot
though Firefox. I get 20 coolers or more on the screen, but the printout
only shows 6 or so. I've seen this often at many web sites. The Firefox
print preview shows the same thing. This is very annoying.

Is this a Firefox problem or the web site is designed that way? Anyone
know?

Is there a way around this problem?

TIA


It could be a Firefox problem. Try another browser, see if it prints.

I've run across numerous sites that FF cannot print that other browsers
have no problem with. IMO, they are either unwilling or uninterested in
fixing the problem.

--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 44.0
Thunderbird 38.0.1
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

[Default] On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 20:52:52 -0400, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general "Don Phillipson"
wrote:

"KenK" wrote in message
...

I just tried to print the display of evaporative coolers at Home Depot
though Firefox. I get 20 coolers or more on the screen, but the printout
only shows 6 or so. I've seen this often at many web sites. The Firefox
print preview shows the same thing. This is very annoying.

Is this a Firefox problem or the web site is designed that way? Anyone
know?

This is a web site problem, not yours. You may meet your
needs by the Windows PrintScreen key:
1. Maximise the browser window to fill the screen.

IIUC, you're including both maximizing the window and pressing F11 to
eliminate wasted space at the top and bottom.

2. Adjust image size to get into view the samples you want.
3 Key Alt+PrintScreen.

IIUC the Alt is used to print only one frame, or maybe the opposite,
and if I'm right, it's been my experience that frames are rarely used
these days -- the frame is the screen and the screen is the frame --
so PrintScreen by itself works the same.

4. Load your colour graphics app and /Copy/ onto a blank
file your screen image.

You remind me of my problem, so to piggy-back on this issue (I hope
you don't mind) my problem (also not an XP problem, but maybe you have
some advice) has not so much been the scope of the print job but its
legibility, but only when using Google Maps (and maybe other maps
programs). While the maps are very legible on my CRT or LED desktop
screen, when I've zoomed in to show small roads, to help myself wander
around the countryside, the small roads print so dim that I can't see
them on the paper. I can only see the scattered road numbers but not
the roads themselvs. The whole map is dimmer than the description of
the map that I've typed in, which is perfect, but despite being dim,
the major roads are visible, just not the minor roads and the location
of minor towns (though the names of towns are visible).

So people told me, No one uses paper maps anymore. Use your cell
phone. So I downloaded the maps in advance** since there is no wifi
on the road (and I don't have Data) but when I looked at my phone, it
was just as illegible as the paper, even in the shade!!!

Any suggestions.

**With google maps you can store each one for 30 days, and renew the
time period, almost automatically, for another 30 days .

KenK wrote:
This is not strictly an XP problem but this is a very helpful group.

I just tried to print the display of evaporative coolers at Home Depot
though Firefox. I get 20 coolers or more on the screen, but the printout
only shows 6 or so. I've seen this often at many web sites. The Firefox
print preview shows the same thing. This is very annoying.

Is this a Firefox problem or the web site is designed that way? Anyone
know?

Is there a way around this problem?

TIA


It's a website design issue.

It isn't to do with printing as such. It would
appear some sort of "frame" around the page
of evaporative coolers dives under the boundaries
of the page.

I tested on old browsers and new browsers, some
of each, and the page rendering is mainly the same
on all of them. The print job is either three or
four pages, when it should be around 13-15 pages.

The only way to bandaid the problem, is use
a "large page" print driver. I have one driver,
which I can use for Print To File, which has
108 inch tall pages. And in that way, the frame that
takes a dive, more of that page would
be captured.

But once you'd done that, it would be pretty difficult to
post process it to make it useful for any other purpose.

I don't think I can quite capture all the search results
that way. I'd miss a few.

As a test, I set the page scale to 10% or something,
and managed to get the thing rendered into just one page.
It was of course, too tiny to read.

Paul

Hello Ken

Is there a way around this problem?

While it might not suit your wishes regarding the final outcome, you could
try to switch the pages style to "no style" (view - page style - no style)
and than print.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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KenK schreef in berichtnieuws
...

This is not strictly an XP problem but this is a very helpful group.

I just tried to print the display of evaporative coolers at Home Depot
though Firefox. I get 20 coolers or more on the screen, but the printout
only shows 6 or so. I've seen this often at many web sites. The Firefox
print preview shows the same thing. This is very annoying.

Is this a Firefox problem or the web site is designed that way? Anyone
know?

Is there a way around this problem?

TIA

--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

In message , Micky
writes:
[Default] On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 20:52:52 -0400, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general "Don Phillipson"
wrote:

"KenK" wrote in message
.. .

I just tried to print the display of evaporative coolers at Home Depot
though Firefox. I get 20 coolers or more on the screen, but the printout
only shows 6 or so. I've seen this often at many web sites. The Firefox
print preview shows the same thing. This is very annoying.

Is this a Firefox problem or the web site is designed that way? Anyone
know?

This is a web site problem, not yours. You may meet your

Yes and no. Firefox's ability to print pages that have coding that makes
them print differently to how they appear on screen does _differ_ from,
for example, IE's ability to do the same thing: F is usually worse. (At
least the print preview shows what you'd get without having to waste
time and ink.) It seems at its worst when there's what looks like some
sort of table: it gets the start of the table only.

I wish there was a way to overwrite a page's coding and just print what
I see; changing to no style, or similar, changes the screem appearance
too. Knowing Firefox, there probably _is_ a plugin (or whatever) that
does offer this ability.

needs by the Windows PrintScreen key:
1. Maximise the browser window to fill the screen.

IIUC, you're including both maximizing the window and pressing F11 to
eliminate wasted space at the top and bottom.

2. Adjust image size to get into view the samples you want.
3 Key Alt+PrintScreen.

IIUC the Alt is used to print only one frame, or maybe the opposite,
and if I'm right, it's been my experience that frames are rarely used
these days -- the frame is the screen and the screen is the frame --
so PrintScreen by itself works the same.

No, Alt-PrtScn just captures the currently-active _window_ - nothing to
do with frames within a webpage; it eliminates, for example, the
taskbar, as compared to PrtScn on its own, which captures the whole
screen. If you've done F11 anyway, it probably makes no difference.

4. Load your colour graphics app and /Copy/ onto a blank
file your screen image.

You remind me of my problem, so to piggy-back on this issue (I hope
you don't mind) my problem (also not an XP problem, but maybe you have
some advice) has not so much been the scope of the print job but its
legibility, but only when using Google Maps (and maybe other maps
programs). While the maps are very legible on my CRT or LED desktop
screen, when I've zoomed in to show small roads, to help myself wander
around the countryside, the small roads print so dim that I can't see
them on the paper. I can only see the scattered road numbers but not
the roads themselvs. The whole map is dimmer than the description of
the map that I've typed in, which is perfect, but despite being dim,
the major roads are visible, just not the minor roads and the location
of minor towns (though the names of towns are visible).

IF you _are_ using some sort of screen grab, lighten the images in
whatever graphic software you're using before you print them (you may or
may not have to adjust the contrast as well); as well as fixing the
above problem, you'll also use less ink.

So people told me, No one uses paper maps anymore. Use your cell
phone. So I downloaded the maps in advance** since there is no wifi
on the road (and I don't have Data) but when I looked at my phone, it
was just as illegible as the paper, even in the shade!!!

Any suggestions.

**With google maps you can store each one for 30 days, and renew the
time period, almost automatically, for another 30 days .

That sounds as if you're _not_ just using screen grab in that case, so I
can't help there.
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