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Windows 7 64. The following Important Update showed up by itself "AMD
SMBus". What is it and should I install it. |
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Roy Colson wrote:
Windows 7 64. The following Important Update showed up by itself "AMD SMBus". What is it and should I install it. Microsoft has been randomly leaking hardware drivers for a while. There have been a bunch of Intel ones as well. Rather than being "some sort of necessity", it appears to be a process problem with the staff at Windows update. ******* As for the SMBus, that stands for System Management Bus. At the moment, the memory DIMMs in your computer connect to that bus. When a program like CPU-Z collects information about your RAM DIMMs, it would be reading over that bus. Each DIMM has a declaration PROM, a small 8 pin chip on the DIMM, and that's what they read out. The SMBus used to be used at one time, for hardware monitor readings. But, it isn't compatible with multi-processing - if two programs write to the bus at the same time, the second operation can corrupt (truncate) the first operation. And over time, functions have been moved off SMBus and onto LPC (Low Pin Count - nibble wide 33MHz bus). The LPC bus has the SuperI/O (and its associated hardware monitor), as well as things like the BIOS chip can sit on that bus. But they're not going to change the DIMMs to sit on that bus. I would say the update was "mostly irrelevant", as your Device Manager probably already has an entry for SMBus in the System section, and it probably already has a working driver for it. And the chances of that needing an "update", are slim to none. Maybe it's needed for Ryzen, but then, a bunch of companies swore an oath not to support it on Win7, so how would that work ? :-) ******* All I can tell you Roy, is if I see stuff like that in Windows Update, I *avoid it*. Drivers delivered that way are nothing but trouble. Like the time some touchpad driver was offered in Windows Update, and anyone who installed it, their keyboard stopped working. That one was pulled after around half a day. There's some reason Microsoft is doing this, but "rational" is not the first word that comes to mind. Paul |
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On 4/1/2017 8:22 AM, Roy Colson wrote:
Windows 7 64. The following Important Update showed up by itself "AMD SMBus". What is it and should I install it. That is an update for a non-Microsoft hardware driver. I NEVER accept such updates from Microsoft. Given the number of times Microsoft has released Windows updates that replace prior Windows updates (some of which replaced even older updates), I just do not trust Microsoft to provide the latest correct updates from other companies. Instead, I go to the Web sites of the manufacturers to check for updates to their drivers. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com Consider: * Most state mandate that drivers have liability insurance. * Employers are mandated to have worker's compensation insurance. * If you live in a flood zone, flood insurance is mandatory. * If your home has a mortgage, fire insurance is mandatory. Why then is mandatory health insurance so bad?? |
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On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:12:11 -0700, "David E. Ross"
wrote in On 4/1/2017 8:22 AM, Roy Colson wrote: Windows 7 64. The following Important Update showed up by itself "AMD SMBus". What is it and should I install it. That is an update for a non-Microsoft hardware driver. I NEVER accept such updates from Microsoft. Given the number of times Microsoft has released Windows updates that replace prior Windows updates (some of which replaced even older updates), I just do not trust Microsoft to provide the latest correct updates from other companies. Instead, I go to the Web sites of the manufacturers to check for updates to their drivers. +1 -- Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one. Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those newspapers delivered to your door every morning. |
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On 01/04/2017 20:12, David E. Ross wrote:
Instead, I go to the Web sites of the manufacturers to check for updates to their drivers. That is why people call you the most stupid person on the internet because you don't understand that it is not in the interest of manufacturers bottom line to give you latest drivers for new operating system while Microsoft is better placed to give you because it has access to nearly 500 million devices and can easily create something quickly to make sure its latest operating system runs correctly on old machines. -- If you want to filter all of my posts then please read this article: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/organize-your-messages-using-filters In step 7 select "Delete" With over 500 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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In message , Good Guy
writes: On 01/04/2017 20:12, David E. Ross wrote: Instead, I go to the Web sites of the manufacturers to check for updates to their drivers. That is why people call you the most stupid person on the internet because you don't understand that it is not in the interest of manufacturers bottom line to give you latest drivers for new operating system while Microsoft is better placed to give you because it has access to nearly 500 million devices and can easily create something quickly to make sure its latest operating system runs correctly on old machines. Experience has shown that driver "updates" from Microsoft have often caused problems, which getting an updated driver from the manufacturer have at least sometimes cured. It _is_ in the interest of manufacturers to make sure they provide drivers, at least for _relatively_ recent hardware; it affects their reputation, which can affect their bottom line. Certainly, I wouldn't expect most manufacturers to provide drivers for new OSs for hardware that ceased production several OSs ago (though some do to a surprising extent). Microsoft's "access" to 500 million (or whatever other figure one might pluck out of the air) is mostly one-way: they don't know if the updates they push out actually _work_ on those devices. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf No, I haven't changed my mind - I'm perfectly happy with the one I have, thank you. |
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