BackUp for HD Replacement

I used Macrium Reflect in the past to clone and recover my Windows 7 hd
successfully.to a new hd.

I've got reflect 7, but haven't started to do anything.

If possible, I would like more info on what you did.

Where is the clone stored ?

Does the new HD have to be identical to the old ?

Could it be smaller, if large enough to accomodate all the material on
the old ?

Is it possible to use an image ?

What's the difference ?

Any comments greately appreciated.

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I used Macrium Reflect in the past to clone and recover my Windows 7 hd
successfully.to a new hd.

I've got reflect 7, but haven't started to do anything.

If possible, I would like more info on what you did.

Where is the clone stored ?

Does the new HD have to be identical to the old ?

Could it be smaller, if large enough to accomodate all the material on
the old ?

Is it possible to use an image ?

What's the difference ?

Any comments greately appreciated.

Why not download the manual ?

There's a PDF manual.

http://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v...df?src=sidebar

Date: 04 July 2018

Pages: 422

Cloning is on page 9.

And yes, this will be on the final exam.

HTH,
Paul

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I used Macrium Reflect in the past to clone and recover my Windows 7 hd
successfully.to a new hd.

I've got reflect 7, but haven't started to do anything.

Make the bootable CD, as a matter of some urgency. (Your images are no
use without it.)

If possible, I would like more info on what you did.

Where is the clone stored ?

By current use of the terms, a clone is a copy to another HD which can
then be switched for the existing (e. g. failing) one, and Windows
(etc.) will boot and run.

Does the new HD have to be identical to the old ?

If larger, and you don't do anything, I _think_ it will appear to be the
same size as the original; a partition manager can then be used to get
at the unused extra space.

Could it be smaller, if large enough to accomodate all the material on
the old ?

I _think_ so, if you do things in Macrium. I've never used it for
cloning, only imaging.

Is it possible to use an image ?

Yes.

What's the difference ?

By current usage of the terms: *cloning* is copying one disc to another,
creating an identical copy of the original disc, which can then be put
into the original PC in place of the original, and Windows won't know
the difference: a *clone* copies one disc drive to another. I _think_ if
done with Macrium, you can do on-the-fly resizing. An *image* is a
backup of several selected partitions - could be a whole drive - but
into a single (admittedly very large) file. That file is not bootable,
and - if you've got a big enough drive - you can image several computers
onto it, and/or store several images of one computer, from several
different dates. If you like, think of an image file as something like a
..zip file on steroids - it contains whole partitions or even drives, not
just files, including boot sectors, partition tables, and so on. (By
default, it's only as large as the _used_ part of the partitions/drives
it's storing, i. e. it doesn't actually image unused space.) In order to
actually _use_ an image, you have to have a drive to "unpack" it onto -
which _can_ be the one it came from (if, for example, you've screwed up
your system royally, or got bad malware); or, it can be a new drive (if
your old one died - after you made the image of course! - or you want to
fit a bigger one [or maybe smaller but an SSD]). You also need something
to boot from in order to unpack the image: this is what the boot CD is
for. The boot CD contains a sort of cut-down Windows, that runs from the
CD, plus the software (Macrium in your case) that knows about the images
it has made and how to unpack them back. (Unpacking _images_ with
Macrium definitely _can_ resize partitions on the fly, though personally
I haven't done that, upwards anyway - I did that afterwards with a
partition manager. [I have done it downwards, when fitting an SSD for a
friend, but that was a single-partition disc,])

Any comments greately appreciated.

Hope the above helps (-:

The terms "image" and "clone" (as well as others like "backup",
"archive", and others) have had different meanings in the past, and may
have in the future; _current_ usage is - clone is copying one physical
drive to another, image is storing a parcelled representation of one or
more partitions/drives into a file (_usually_ on another - often
external - drive), which can be unpacked later.
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 20:41:38 -0500, Paul
wrote:


http://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v...df?src=sidebar

Date: 04 July 2018

Pages: 422

Cloning is on page 9.

And yes, this will be on the final exam.

Thank you, Paul, for the URL. I have downloaded the user guide.
As always, you are a magnificent resource for lesser folk like
me.

Kirk Bubul wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 20:41:38 -0500, Paul
wrote:


http://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v...df?src=sidebar

Date: 04 July 2018

Pages: 422

Cloning is on page 9.

And yes, this will be on the final exam.

Thank you, Paul, for the URL. I have downloaded the user guide.
As always, you are a magnificent resource for lesser folk like
me.

As manuals go, the manuals for backup software are pretty grim.
(Will cure insomnia.) It's as much a standard joke as a solution :-)

But, you have to start somewhere.

My reason for including the page count, I was hoping for
some sort of reaction. The "average" backup software manual
is 150 pages. That one is 422 pages! A new record.

Once you've got a spare drive, the idea is to *try out*
some stuff. Then ask questions about what you see. All
the "pre-advice" in the world, doesn't do your first
run for you. You still have to take the first step
yourself.

You don't even have to test restore right away. With
your spare drive, try a "backup". Try a "clone".
See what happened.

"Restore" is the more risky of test cases (depending on
how much spare kit you've got). I have to assume a
person who has never done a backup before, has no
spare drives, and to expect such a person to buy
*two* drives, is too much :-)

With the two drives, you do your backup onto one drive,
then do the "restore" test case onto the second drive.
All without messing up the original drive. Then
test that the "restore" drive, boots.

*******

If you squish down the existing OS, or put a minimal
system on your backup drive, the drive can be used
in dual roles. As an emergency boot drive, for when
you need to Google, after your main drive broke. And
also as a container for backups (if the main drive
is merely corrupt and not broken).

Dual-purpose backup drive setup
+-----+----+------------+--------------------------------+
| MBR | SR | Minimal C: | Space for backups goes here |
+-----+----+------------+--------------------------------+

I have one poster, who has been very successful with that,
because when he gets into a jam (perpetual tipover artist),
he pops that into the PC and has something to boot with.
That takes some of the "panic" out of being tipped over.
It isn't always practical, but it's better than sitting
there staring at a black screen. The solution is going
to need work, as the size of hard drives go up, as that
disk will need to be GPT for drives 2.2TB.

Paul

Thanks Paul.

Dumb of me not to have found it.