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Worperfect vs Word et alia was Image formats
"PeteG" wrote | This guy? | | https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/ | Yes. That's it. I didn't find it in the MS index. |
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"Ken Blake" wrote
| Then there's "bespoke", to describe custom software. | Lots of words I never heard before computers. | | I've never seen or heard "bespoke" used for anything but custom-made | clothing. Nor had I. But in programming groups people commonly use it to mean basically the same thing: Software custom tailored to the customer's needs. |
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Mayayana wrote:
"Ken Blake" wrote | Then there's "bespoke", to describe custom software. | Lots of words I never heard before computers. | | I've never seen or heard "bespoke" used for anything but custom-made | clothing. Nor had I. But in programming groups people commonly use it to mean basically the same thing: Software custom tailored to the customer's needs. The term hails from a particular country. https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/bespoke That's why nobody is going to recognize that here. The very same people who keep their spare tire in the "boot" invented that term. Paul |
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"Paul" wrote
| The term hails from a particular country. | | https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/bespoke | | That's why nobody is going to recognize that here. | | The very same people who keep their spare tire in the "boot" | invented that term. | I didn't know that. It helps explain why it's such an odd usage, and why I hadn't heard of it before. |
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In message , Paul
writes: Mayayana wrote: "Ken Blake" wrote | Then there's "bespoke", to describe custom software. | Lots of words I never heard before computers. | | I've never seen or heard "bespoke" used for anything but custom-made | clothing. Nor had I. But in programming groups people commonly use it to mean basically the same thing: Software custom tailored to the customer's needs. The term hails from a particular country. https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/bespoke That's why nobody is going to recognize that here. The very same people who keep their spare tire in the "boot" invented that term. Paul Close but no cigar - if it's in the boot, it's a spare tyre (-:. As for "bespoke" as applied to software, it appeared as suddenly for me as for you; I'd assumed it was a US usage we'd adopted! I knew it as applied to tailoring (though not a word much in use here for that either - not many can afford bespoke tailoring!). -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf in the kingdom of the bland, the one idea is king. - Rory Bremner (on politics), RT 2015/1/31-2/6 |
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
| Close but no cigar - if it's in the boot, it's a spare tyre (-:. | He was probably trying to help you save face by not pointing out that you spell it wrong. What colour is your tire? Or is it aluminnium? | As for "bespoke" as applied to software, it appeared as suddenly for me | as for you; I'd assumed it was a US usage we'd adopted! A curious mystery. It's probably safe to say that whoever coined it, it was an attempt by marketers and trade organizations to valorize the field, generally. Contract software sounds nuts-and-bolts. Bespoke is suggestive of that magical word that everyone wants to apply to their business these days: artisanal. As in, artisanal beer or artisanal bread. It's what "natural" was in the 80s. Vague, pretentious, signalling a very high price, and claiming to be a work of art. I remember in the early days of PC mania there were all sorts of changes in the term for people who write software. Author, developer, builder, architect, engineer. Architect then got corralled into the horrendous verb form: to architect a solution. These people were so lacking in aesthetic sense that they didn't even understand that an architect's job is partially aesthetic. They just thought the title sounded swank. Finally people settled on engineer, even though most software authors are not engineers and the licensing generally casts software as a creative product, worthy of copyright. Apropos of that, I was recently on a job where the owner wanted to check for mice in her new house. A "pest technician" was scheduled to come and inspect... I expect he's architecting a bleeding edge mitigation protocol. |
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On 2/25/2020 6:54 PM, Paul wrote:
Mayayana wrote: "Ken Blake" wrote | Then there's "bespoke", to describe custom software. | Lots of words I never heard before computers. | | I've never seen or heard "bespoke" used for anything but custom-made | clothing. Nor had I. But in programming groups people commonly use it to mean basically the same thing: Software custom tailored to the customer's needs. The term hails from a particular country. https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/bespoke That's why nobody is going to recognize that here. The very same people who keep their spare tire in the "boot" invented that term. No, those people don't have spare tires. They have spare tyres. -- Ken |
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In message , Mayayana
writes: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote | Close but no cigar - if it's in the boot, it's a spare tyre (-:. | He was probably trying to help you save face by not pointing out that you spell it wrong. What colour is your tire? Or is it aluminnium? (No double n.) | As for "bespoke" as applied to software, it appeared as suddenly for me | as for you; I'd assumed it was a US usage we'd adopted! A curious mystery. It's probably safe to say that whoever coined it, it was an attempt by marketers and trade organizations to valorize the field, generally. Contract software sounds nuts-and-bolts. Bespoke is suggestive of that magical word that everyone wants to apply to their business these days: artisanal. As in, artisanal beer or artisanal bread. It's what "natural" was in the 80s. Vague, pretentious, signalling a very high price, and claiming to be a work of art. Exactly. I'm happy with "custom" - though that usually means software more or less written from scratch for the job, whereas "bespoke" _tends_ to be some standard package, tweaked a bit (say by incorporating the customer's name/logo). Definitely pretentious. I remember in the early days of PC mania there were all sorts of changes in the term for people who write software. Author, developer, builder, architect, engineer. Architect then got corralled into the horrendous verb form: to architect a solution. These people were so lacking in aesthetic sense that they didn't even understand that an architect's job is partially aesthetic. They just thought the title sounded swank. (-: Finally people settled on engineer, even though most software authors are not engineers and the licensing generally casts software as a creative product, worthy of copyright. And they don't stop using other engineering terms - everything's a "tool", for example. To me, a profiling tool is something I might buy as an attachment to a drill or other machine tool, to put a shaped edge on something (such as beading); however, these days, journalists use them when writing about people. (Not that there aren't some people - politicians in particular - I'd like to take my sort of profiling tool to ...!) Apropos of that, I was recently on a job where the owner wanted to check for mice in her new house. A "pest technician" was scheduled to come and inspect... I expect he's architecting a bleeding edge mitigation protocol. Rodent operative? I think pest control expert is probably what we'd say. (Or, if employed by the local authority, pest control officer - I think.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf [What's your guilty pleasure?] Why should you feel guilty about pleasure? - Michel Roux Jr in Radio Times 2-8 February 2013 |
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Worperfect vs Word et alia was Image formats
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" on Wed, 26 Feb 2020
19:55:51 +0000 typed in alt.windows7.general the following: Apropos of that, I was recently on a job where the owner wanted to check for mice in her new house. A "pest technician" was scheduled to come and inspect... I expect he's architecting a bleeding edge mitigation protocol. Rodent operative? I think pest control expert is probably what we'd say. (Or, if employed by the local authority, pest control officer - I think.) I love the euphemism / buzzword job descriptions. "retail associate for a international recreational pharmaceutical import and distribution association." -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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