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What Windows "magic" invokes a command window as an Administrator window simply by using Control+Shift+Enter versus Enter?
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"Arlen George Holder" wrote: But even so, I couldn't find out where this "Run.lnk" shortcut goes. It goes to the registry: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{2559a1f3-21d7-11d4-bdaf-00c04f60b9f0} That's where the magic begins for that particular lnk shortcut. Applies to XP and Win7, no idea about 10. It's interesting to note that the WinKey+R was disabled when "explorer.exe" wasn't running. There appears to be some dependency on explorer for the lnk, so maybe also for the hotkey. Is there another way of bringing up the Run box when explorer.exe is dead? On XP the Run dialog box is in shell32.dll, on 7 and 10 - don't know. shell32.dll (XP & 7) contains a typlib (type library for COM automation) which has the "FileRun" method declared in the registry entry. So there probably is a way to invoke the dialog using that as a starting point for research! It may be possible in script or may need a program to be written. Otherwise use a command prompt and type the program name or "Start" followed by similar. |
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What Windows "magic" invokes a command window as an Administratorwindow simply by using Control+Shift+Enter versus Enter?
On 2019-08-18 1:49 a.m., J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Jonathan N. Little writes: Arlen George Holder wrote: Hi Jonathan, It's _embarrassing_ that none of us know how Windows works, least of all me. While it's a truism that none of us knows how _all_ of Windows works, there _are_ people who know how sections of it do - and taken as a whole, we _do_. And by now, there are probably enough who are now outside Microsoft that we - _as a whole_ - do know how it works, with the exception of those bits that are to do with licencing/activation etcetera. I don't think it's _embarrassing_ as such, that no single individual knows how all of it works: it's no different to any other complex entity, such as a power station or even, these days, a car. I commend you for mentioning power stations in this context. I'm sure that Anatoly Dyatlov, in Chernobyl, was quite knowledgeable about how the power station worked back on the 26th of April, 1986. That's the nature of proprietary software. The alternative is open source. This is why this is my only and last Winbox. All others I have a Linux. I'm curious: given that Windows has now been around significantly longer than the average or even extended life of a machine, as has Linux: if "this" is your current machine, given your stated view of proprietary software, why did you buy it when you did (alternatives would have been available)? The problem with any machine purchased today is that open-source software won't properly support it until three or four years from now. Unless you purchase a machine which was explicitly built with hardware that already has good driver support in Linux, it's not likely that your experience will be any good. My laptop only recently got properly supported by Ubuntu 19.04 and even then, the ACPI functionality is a complete mess. |
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What Windows "magic" invokes a command window as an Administrator window simply by using Control+Shift+Enter versus Enter?
On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:56:27 -0400, Rabid Robot wrote:
The problem with any machine purchased today is that open-source software won't properly support it until three or four years from now. I wonder why people pay showroom price for brand new. Like cars, in a few years they lose most of their value. Rich people aren't rich because they spend a lot of money. |
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What Windows "magic" invokes a command window as an Administratorwindow simply by using Control+Shift+Enter versus Enter?
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
I'm curious: given that Windows has now been around significantly longer than the average or even extended life of a machine, as has Linux: if "this" is your current machine, given your stated view of proprietary software, why did you buy it when you did (alternatives would have been available)? 1) I build it, as nearly all my computers for over 20 years. 2) Started with Windows. 3) For business used CorelDraw back then. Only pro graphics software for Windows. [could not do #1 with a Mac] 4) Been using Linux for servers @ 18 years ago 5) Been using Linux on all other systems for 12 years 6) Still need CorelDraw for business and no Linux port 7) Inkscape is good, but missing essential features that CD has, but do use Inkscape to fix CD's bad SVG export. 8) When Windows becomes subscription only I'll have to find a way to make Inkscape work for everything, or find some better alternative. -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com |
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What Windows "magic" invokes a command window as an Administratorwindow simply by using Control+Shift+Enter versus Enter?
Rabid Robot wrote:
The problem with any machine purchased today is that open-source software won't properly support it until three or four years from now. Unless you purchase a machine which was explicitly built with hardware that already has good driver support in Linux, it's not likely that your experience will be any good. My laptop only recently got properly supported by Ubuntu 19.04 and even then, the ACPI functionality is a complete mess. Not been my experience. Been installing Ubuntu 16.04 on brand-spank'n new systems with 8 generation Intel CPUs where the CPU predates the OS release by 2 years and no problem. Haven't encountered a 9th gen yet. -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com |
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What Windows "magic" invokes a command window as an Administrator window simply by using Control+Shift+Enter versus Enter?
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 21:43:18 -0000 (UTC), Arlen George Holder wrote:
Does anyone know what "magic" enables this wonderful feature? I read that process doc but I still don't understand how it works. It's just an added feature to use the shell's "RunAs" verb to open the given command line, instead of the default "Open" verb. Below VBScript demonstrate this. set sa = createobject("shell.application") 'run Notepad normally msgbox "About to run Notepad normally..." sa.shellexecute "notepad" 'run Wordpad elevated msgbox "About to run Wordpad Elevated..." sa.shellexecute "wordpad", "", "", "runas" |
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What Windows "magic" invokes a command window as an Administrator window simply by using Control+Shift+Enter versus Enter?
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Windows 10: o Win+R cmd {Enter} == this opens a "user" command window o Win+R cmd {Ctrl+Shift+Enter} == this opens an "admin" command window And, not surprisingly... o Win+R wsl {Enter} == pwd shows the cwd is /mnt/c/Users/{user}/ o Win+R wsl {Ctrl+Shift+Enter} == cwd is set to /mnt/c/WINDOWS/system32/ Yet... paradoxically... o Win+R wsl {Enter} == a "whoami" shows this to be a "user" window o Win+R wsl {Ctrl+Shift+Enter} == this is _still_ a "user" window Go figure. -- The reason this is important is when you're entering telnet commands, the Linux telnet has options not necessarily in the Windows telnet, and, more importantly, the shell in Linux also has nice options (e.g., bang bang). |
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What Windows "magic" invokes a command window as an Administrator window simply by using Control+Shift+Enter versus Enter?
On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 21:49:02 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:
o Win+R wsl {Enter} == a "whoami" shows this to be a "user" window o Win+R wsl {Ctrl+Shift+Enter} == this is _still_ a "user" window Oooooops. I forgot to mention that you won't have wsl unless you do this: o Tutorial for setting up Ubuntu as a Windows Subsystem for Linux WSL in Windows 10 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/rOT8xBWo9dk Note: You won't have telnet in Windows either, unless you do this: o Tutorial: How to enable the Telnet Client in Windows 10 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/pEhuvzzFBTU For example: {me} Win+R cmd {ctrl+shift+enter} == optional, admin cmd window {it} C:\WINDOWS\system32 == this is the admin $p$g prompt apparently {me} C:\WINDOWS\system32 telnet {it} 'telnet' is not recognized as an internal or external command, {it} operable program or batch file. == I could "enable" it but screw that {me} exit Start over directly with Ubuntu running inside of Windows: {me} Win+R wsl == to get into the Windows subsystem for Linux {me} $ telnet nntp.aioe.org 119 {me} post {it} 340 Ok, recommended message-ID {me} from: Arlen Holder {me} newsgroups: comp.mobile.android {me} subject: Do you use FreedomPop in the USA? If so, what are the details? {me} message-id: {me} references: {me} blank line control+v doesn't work, but sometimes control+q works here {me} . {me} quit == exit out of telnet {me} exit == exit out of wsl This is what it looks like, in the flesh (with inevitable gotchas): o https://i.postimg.cc/kGG8W31b/telnetnntp01.jpg -- Two kinds of people frequent Usenet: those who add value & those who chat. |
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