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I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered.
Now I have the following dilemma: I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow me to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. |
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"AIANDAS" wrote in message ... I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered. Now I have the following dilemma: I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow me to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with dynamic disks . . . Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options: a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes available on his home site. b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use robocopy.exe to perform the cloning. c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture), then continue as per option b). Some extra notes for options b) and c): - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy process. - You must mark the first partition as "active". - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies hidden and system files. - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure that the old disk remains disconnected. |
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OK some of the items I'll have to look up.
In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc? The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you. "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote in message ... I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered. Now I have the following dilemma: I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow me to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with dynamic disks . . . Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options: a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes available on his home site. b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use robocopy.exe to perform the cloning. c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture), then continue as per option b). Some extra notes for options b) and c): - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy process. - You must mark the first partition as "active". - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies hidden and system files. - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure that the old disk remains disconnected. |
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"AIANDAS" wrote in message ... OK some of the items I'll have to look up. In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc? The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you. You'll have to check the Seagate site yourself for cloning tools. |
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"AIANDAS" wrote: OK some of the items I'll have to look up. In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc? The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you. "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote in message ... I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered. Now I have the following dilemma: I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow me to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with dynamic disks . . . Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options: a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes available on his home site. b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use robocopy.exe to perform the cloning. c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture), then continue as per option b). Some extra notes for options b) and c): - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy process. - You must mark the first partition as "active". - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies hidden and system files. - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure that the old disk remains disconnected. Seagate now has a cloning tool from Acronis. Go to the Seagate website, find the cloning and formating software for your model hard drive. Download the tools and create a bootable CD from the download. Put the bootable CD in the CD drive and shut down the computer. Open the case and attach the new hard drive to the IDE cable. Set jumper to "slave". If SATA, attach to an available port. Boot the computer off the CD and use the clone tool to clone to the new drive. When done, shut down the computer and disconnect and remove the original hard drive. Set the new drive jumper to "master" for IDE or connect to the original SATA port. Boot the computer and you should be good to go. Works every time. |
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OK thank you very much..........
"Mark Adams" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote: OK some of the items I'll have to look up. In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc? The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you. "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote in message ... I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered. Now I have the following dilemma: I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow me to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with dynamic disks . . . Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options: a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes available on his home site. b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use robocopy.exe to perform the cloning. c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture), then continue as per option b). Some extra notes for options b) and c): - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy process. - You must mark the first partition as "active". - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies hidden and system files. - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure that the old disk remains disconnected. Seagate now has a cloning tool from Acronis. Go to the Seagate website, find the cloning and formating software for your model hard drive. Download the tools and create a bootable CD from the download. Put the bootable CD in the CD drive and shut down the computer. Open the case and attach the new hard drive to the IDE cable. Set jumper to "slave". If SATA, attach to an available port. Boot the computer off the CD and use the clone tool to clone to the new drive. When done, shut down the computer and disconnect and remove the original hard drive. Set the new drive jumper to "master" for IDE or connect to the original SATA port. Boot the computer and you should be good to go. Works every time. |
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OK I had the good luck to find the cloning utility on the Acronis software.
Sure enough it did the job. Now I am having a problem getting the previously slave IDE to be recognized as right now I had it in slave mode on the jumper settings. So now I have to fiddle with the settings unless someone knows better how to get the IDE to be recognized? OUF! "AIANDAS" wrote: OK thank you very much.......... "Mark Adams" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote: OK some of the items I'll have to look up. In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc? The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you. "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote in message ... I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered. Now I have the following dilemma: I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow me to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with dynamic disks . . . Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options: a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes available on his home site. b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use robocopy.exe to perform the cloning. c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture), then continue as per option b). Some extra notes for options b) and c): - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy process. - You must mark the first partition as "active". - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies hidden and system files. - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure that the old disk remains disconnected. Seagate now has a cloning tool from Acronis. Go to the Seagate website, find the cloning and formating software for your model hard drive. Download the tools and create a bootable CD from the download. Put the bootable CD in the CD drive and shut down the computer. Open the case and attach the new hard drive to the IDE cable. Set jumper to "slave". If SATA, attach to an available port. Boot the computer off the CD and use the clone tool to clone to the new drive. When done, shut down the computer and disconnect and remove the original hard drive. Set the new drive jumper to "master" for IDE or connect to the original SATA port. Boot the computer and you should be good to go. Works every time. |
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"AIANDAS" wrote in message ... OK I had the good luck to find the cloning utility on the Acronis software. Sure enough it did the job. Now I am having a problem getting the previously slave IDE to be recognized as right now I had it in slave mode on the jumper settings. So now I have to fiddle with the settings unless someone knows better how to get the IDE to be recognized? OUF! "AIANDAS" wrote: OK thank you very much.......... "Mark Adams" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote: OK some of the items I'll have to look up. In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc? The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you. "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote in message ... I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered. Now I have the following dilemma: I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow me to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with dynamic disks . . . Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options: a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes available on his home site. b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use robocopy.exe to perform the cloning. c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture), then continue as per option b). Some extra notes for options b) and c): - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy process. - You must mark the first partition as "active". - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies hidden and system files. - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure that the old disk remains disconnected. Seagate now has a cloning tool from Acronis. Go to the Seagate website, find the cloning and formating software for your model hard drive. Download the tools and create a bootable CD from the download. Put the bootable CD in the CD drive and shut down the computer. Open the case and attach the new hard drive to the IDE cable. Set jumper to "slave". If SATA, attach to an available port. Boot the computer off the CD and use the clone tool to clone to the new drive. When done, shut down the computer and disconnect and remove the original hard drive. Set the new drive jumper to "master" for IDE or connect to the original SATA port. Boot the computer and you should be good to go. Works every time. Doesn't your computer use "Cable Select" for IDE drives? If so, you just put the master plug (the last one) into the drive that you want to be the master. Jim |
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It's quite possible the storage IDE may be damaged. That's speculation right
now. THe deal is that BIOS can see the Seagate 160 gig drive yet Windows, i.e., disk management does not. If BIOS can see it shouldn't Windows see it? Unless it's damaged but BIOS can see it regardless the state of drive? Thanks in advance. "Jim" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote in message ... OK I had the good luck to find the cloning utility on the Acronis software. Sure enough it did the job. Now I am having a problem getting the previously slave IDE to be recognized as right now I had it in slave mode on the jumper settings. So now I have to fiddle with the settings unless someone knows better how to get the IDE to be recognized? OUF! "AIANDAS" wrote: OK thank you very much.......... "Mark Adams" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote: OK some of the items I'll have to look up. In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc? The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you. "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote in message ... I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered. Now I have the following dilemma: I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow me to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with dynamic disks . . . Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options: a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes available on his home site. b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use robocopy.exe to perform the cloning. c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture), then continue as per option b). Some extra notes for options b) and c): - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy process. - You must mark the first partition as "active". - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies hidden and system files. - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure that the old disk remains disconnected. Seagate now has a cloning tool from Acronis. Go to the Seagate website, find the cloning and formating software for your model hard drive. Download the tools and create a bootable CD from the download. Put the bootable CD in the CD drive and shut down the computer. Open the case and attach the new hard drive to the IDE cable. Set jumper to "slave". If SATA, attach to an available port. Boot the computer off the CD and use the clone tool to clone to the new drive. When done, shut down the computer and disconnect and remove the original hard drive. Set the new drive jumper to "master" for IDE or connect to the original SATA port. Boot the computer and you should be good to go. Works every time. Doesn't your computer use "Cable Select" for IDE drives? If so, you just put the master plug (the last one) into the drive that you want to be the master. Jim |
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not really, bios talks to the hardware, and sees the size and maker, windows
wants to see the file structure and other details, if it's not formatted properly bios will see it but not windows. the cloning feature should have assigned a drive letter and file structure. did you remove the old drive before trying to boot with the new drive? "AIANDAS" wrote: It's quite possible the storage IDE may be damaged. That's speculation right now. THe deal is that BIOS can see the Seagate 160 gig drive yet Windows, i.e., disk management does not. If BIOS can see it shouldn't Windows see it? Unless it's damaged but BIOS can see it regardless the state of drive? Thanks in advance. "Jim" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote in message ... OK I had the good luck to find the cloning utility on the Acronis software. Sure enough it did the job. Now I am having a problem getting the previously slave IDE to be recognized as right now I had it in slave mode on the jumper settings. So now I have to fiddle with the settings unless someone knows better how to get the IDE to be recognized? OUF! "AIANDAS" wrote: OK thank you very much.......... "Mark Adams" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote: OK some of the items I'll have to look up. In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc? The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you. "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote in message ... I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered. Now I have the following dilemma: I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow me to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with dynamic disks . . . Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options: a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes available on his home site. b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use robocopy.exe to perform the cloning. c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture), then continue as per option b). Some extra notes for options b) and c): - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy process. - You must mark the first partition as "active". - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies hidden and system files. - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure that the old disk remains disconnected. Seagate now has a cloning tool from Acronis. Go to the Seagate website, find the cloning and formating software for your model hard drive. Download the tools and create a bootable CD from the download. Put the bootable CD in the CD drive and shut down the computer. Open the case and attach the new hard drive to the IDE cable. Set jumper to "slave". If SATA, attach to an available port. Boot the computer off the CD and use the clone tool to clone to the new drive. When done, shut down the computer and disconnect and remove the original hard drive. Set the new drive jumper to "master" for IDE or connect to the original SATA port. Boot the computer and you should be good to go. Works every time. Doesn't your computer use "Cable Select" for IDE drives? If so, you just put the master plug (the last one) into the drive that you want to be the master. Jim |
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Another question did you install the sata drivers for your sata drive before
you did the clone? if not windows may also not see it, and a repair install will be necessary to install the sata drivers. "AIANDAS" wrote: It's quite possible the storage IDE may be damaged. That's speculation right now. THe deal is that BIOS can see the Seagate 160 gig drive yet Windows, i.e., disk management does not. If BIOS can see it shouldn't Windows see it? Unless it's damaged but BIOS can see it regardless the state of drive? Thanks in advance. "Jim" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote in message ... OK I had the good luck to find the cloning utility on the Acronis software. Sure enough it did the job. Now I am having a problem getting the previously slave IDE to be recognized as right now I had it in slave mode on the jumper settings. So now I have to fiddle with the settings unless someone knows better how to get the IDE to be recognized? OUF! "AIANDAS" wrote: OK thank you very much.......... "Mark Adams" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote: OK some of the items I'll have to look up. In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc? The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you. "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote in message ... I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered. Now I have the following dilemma: I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow me to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with dynamic disks . . . Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options: a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes available on his home site. b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use robocopy.exe to perform the cloning. c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture), then continue as per option b). Some extra notes for options b) and c): - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy process. - You must mark the first partition as "active". - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies hidden and system files. - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure that the old disk remains disconnected. Seagate now has a cloning tool from Acronis. Go to the Seagate website, find the cloning and formating software for your model hard drive. Download the tools and create a bootable CD from the download. Put the bootable CD in the CD drive and shut down the computer. Open the case and attach the new hard drive to the IDE cable. Set jumper to "slave". If SATA, attach to an available port. Boot the computer off the CD and use the clone tool to clone to the new drive. When done, shut down the computer and disconnect and remove the original hard drive. Set the new drive jumper to "master" for IDE or connect to the original SATA port. Boot the computer and you should be good to go. Works every time. Doesn't your computer use "Cable Select" for IDE drives? If so, you just put the master plug (the last one) into the drive that you want to be the master. Jim |
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Well I have good news! I had another copy of Windows on another IDE which was
able to recognize the other IDE and was able to transfer data. Next the coolest thing? Dell had told me my PO400SC BIOS will not be able to recognize 1TB drives AND YET IT HAS!!!!!!!!! SO now I have a PE400SC with 1.5 TB! I love it. I don't have to do any updating 2010 when the new windows OS will come to replace that dreadful vista. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP! P.S. One of the hiccups I had encountered a corrupt ntoskrnl.ex_ file. "sgopus" wrote: Another question did you install the sata drivers for your sata drive before you did the clone? if not windows may also not see it, and a repair install will be necessary to install the sata drivers. "AIANDAS" wrote: It's quite possible the storage IDE may be damaged. That's speculation right now. THe deal is that BIOS can see the Seagate 160 gig drive yet Windows, i.e., disk management does not. If BIOS can see it shouldn't Windows see it? Unless it's damaged but BIOS can see it regardless the state of drive? Thanks in advance. "Jim" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote in message ... OK I had the good luck to find the cloning utility on the Acronis software. Sure enough it did the job. Now I am having a problem getting the previously slave IDE to be recognized as right now I had it in slave mode on the jumper settings. So now I have to fiddle with the settings unless someone knows better how to get the IDE to be recognized? OUF! "AIANDAS" wrote: OK thank you very much.......... "Mark Adams" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote: OK some of the items I'll have to look up. In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc? The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you. "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote: "AIANDAS" wrote in message ... I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered. Now I have the following dilemma: I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow me to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with dynamic disks . . . Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options: a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes available on his home site. b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use robocopy.exe to perform the cloning. c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture), then continue as per option b). Some extra notes for options b) and c): - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy process. - You must mark the first partition as "active". - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies hidden and system files. - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure that the old disk remains disconnected. Seagate now has a cloning tool from Acronis. Go to the Seagate website, find the cloning and formating software for your model hard drive. Download the tools and create a bootable CD from the download. Put the bootable CD in the CD drive and shut down the computer. Open the case and attach the new hard drive to the IDE cable. Set jumper to "slave". If SATA, attach to an available port. Boot the computer off the CD and use the clone tool to clone to the new drive. When done, shut down the computer and disconnect and remove the original hard drive. Set the new drive jumper to "master" for IDE or connect to the original SATA port. Boot the computer and you should be good to go. Works every time. Doesn't your computer use "Cable Select" for IDE drives? If so, you just put the master plug (the last one) into the drive that you want to be the master. Jim |
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