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Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootableslipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?



 
 
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Old June 7th 12, 08:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootableslipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

Ant wrote:
Hello!

Is it possible? I know it is slow due to USB2 speed, but it is only for
quick testings and don't want to mess with my internal hardwares (HDD
has an old Windows XP Pro. SP3 installation that has hard lock ups with
videos -- need to figure out if it is my softwares or hardwares) in my
current computer. Also, it doesn't help that I have disabilities (can't
even use a screwdriver).

Thank you in advance.


Yes, but it requires remastering.

Look for "BootBusExtender" as a search keyword, for the
changes needed to make it possible to boot WinXP from a
USB hard drive.

Example here.

http://www.techspot.com/community/to...-drive.116114/

You'll probably be a lot older, and have gray hairs, before
you get that working :-) But, it's possible.

Paul
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Old June 7th 12, 10:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootable slipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

"Paul" wrote in message
...
snip
http://www.techspot.com/community/to...-drive.116114/

You'll probably be a lot older, and have gray hairs, before
you get that working :-) But, it's possible.


LOL!

....glen

  #3  
Old June 8th 12, 11:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootableslipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

On 07/06/2012 20:27, Paul wrote:
Ant wrote:
Hello!

Is it possible? I know it is slow due to USB2 speed, but it is only
for quick testings and don't want to mess with my internal hardwares
(HDD has an old Windows XP Pro. SP3 installation that has hard lock
ups with videos -- need to figure out if it is my softwares or
hardwares) in my current computer. Also, it doesn't help that I have
disabilities (can't even use a screwdriver).

Thank you in advance.


Yes, but it requires remastering.

Look for "BootBusExtender" as a search keyword, for the
changes needed to make it possible to boot WinXP from a
USB hard drive.

Example here.

http://www.techspot.com/community/to...-drive.116114/


You'll probably be a lot older, and have gray hairs, before
you get that working :-) But, it's possible.

Paul


Heheh - spot-on there, Paul! I tried it once and gave up as
it was getting to be far too much like hard work.. Definitely
not for the faint-hearted!
--
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Old June 9th 12, 02:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootableslipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

On 6/7/2012 12:27 PM PT, Paul typed:

Is it possible? I know it is slow due to USB2 speed, but it is only
for quick testings and don't want to mess with my internal hardwares
(HDD has an old Windows XP Pro. SP3 installation that has hard lock
ups with videos -- need to figure out if it is my softwares or
hardwares) in my current computer. Also, it doesn't help that I have
disabilities (can't even use a screwdriver).


Yes, but it requires remastering.

Look for "BootBusExtender" as a search keyword, for the
changes needed to make it possible to boot WinXP from a
USB hard drive.

Example here.

http://www.techspot.com/community/to...-drive.116114/

You'll probably be a lot older, and have gray hairs, before
you get that working :-) But, it's possible.


Ha. I already have those! :-P

"Disconnect any other hard disk drives (internally) from it" ... Is this
really required? Again, I am disabled to open case and go inside my
computer. :-(
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Old June 9th 12, 02:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootableslipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

On 6/8/2012 3:48 AM PT, Rob typed:

Heheh - spot-on there, Paul! I tried it once and gave up as
it was getting to be far too much like hard work.. Definitely
not for the faint-hearted!


And risky, from its complexity, from what I read. Ugh.
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Old June 9th 12, 02:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootableslipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

Ant wrote:
On 6/7/2012 12:27 PM PT, Paul typed:
You'll probably be a lot older, and have gray hairs, before
you get that working :-) But, it's possible.


Ha. I already have those! :-P

"Disconnect any other hard disk drives (internally) from it" ... Is this
really required? Again, I am disabled to open case and go inside my
computer. :-(


This is purely up to you. I've had enough "accidents", like
needing do a "fixmbr", to consider it easier to just disconnect
any disks I don't want damaged, than to clean up a mess later.

You can probably work your way out of any problem later,
using brain rather than brawn. It's a lot easier for
me to pull the cables, because the side is always off
the computer. I'm just waiting now, for the connectors
to wear out.

Note that, not even the BIOS settings for disks work. There
is a "disable" per drive in a lot of BIOS setup screens, but
stupid Linux will re-enable the drives, and then they can get
written to by GRUB during an install. So the computer is
pretty defenseless in that regard. Only the "write protect"
jumper on the old SCSI drives, works worth a damn. That would
stop anything from writing, but still allow you to read drives.
It's the kind of thing, you could connect up a switch and place it
on the front panel.

Paul
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Old June 9th 12, 03:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootableslipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

Paul wrote:
Ant wrote:
On 6/7/2012 12:27 PM PT, Paul typed:
You'll probably be a lot older, and have gray hairs, before
you get that working :-) But, it's possible.


Ha. I already have those! :-P

"Disconnect any other hard disk drives (internally) from it" ... Is
this really required? Again, I am disabled to open case and go inside
my computer. :-(


This is purely up to you. I've had enough "accidents", like
needing do a "fixmbr", to consider it easier to just disconnect
any disks I don't want damaged, than to clean up a mess later.

You can probably work your way out of any problem later,
using brain rather than brawn. It's a lot easier for
me to pull the cables, because the side is always off
the computer. I'm just waiting now, for the connectors
to wear out.

Note that, not even the BIOS settings for disks work. There
is a "disable" per drive in a lot of BIOS setup screens, but
stupid Linux will re-enable the drives, and then they can get
written to by GRUB during an install. So the computer is
pretty defenseless in that regard. Only the "write protect"
jumper on the old SCSI drives, works worth a damn. That would
stop anything from writing, but still allow you to read drives.
It's the kind of thing, you could connect up a switch and place it
on the front panel.

Paul


To give an example of the strange things that can happen,
consider my Win2K install attempt yesterday.

The disk had a single primary partition, with C: containing Win2K.

I wanted to install a second copy of the OS, clean, with no CODECs
in it. So I could reproduce a problem with "dvdplay.exe".

When I went to install, instead of making a new complete partition,
marking it active, the installer decided instead, to keep the existing
C: as the "boot" solution. So the first partition remained the one
with the active boot flag. The OS installed into a second partition,
with the letter "E:". So my new install wasn't on C:. The first partition
handles the boot duties. The second partition doesn't have a
complete set of files either. The pagefile and hiberfil are on
the first partition. Quite possibly the boot.ini is as well.

This made things annoying when installing drivers, because I'd have to
remember that my new partition was E: and not C:.

The installer also made the second partition, a "logical" partition
in an extended. So the partition table had a FAT32 primary partition
for the original C:, plus an extended in which a single logical partition
E: was located. I could undo that with Partition Magic, without
breaking anything. But I stopped there, and didn't attempt to make
the second partition the booting partition. Wasn't worth the trouble,
and I was afraid of messing up a partition drive letter dependency
along the way.

So all sorts of things can happen when you do an install, and
what happened there, wasn't what I wanted at all. But since that
wasn't a long term setup, it won't be around to annoy me for much
longer. And it didn't break the original C:, which still works.

Paul
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Old June 9th 12, 05:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ant[_3_]
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootableslipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

On 6/8/2012 6:21 PM PT, Paul typed:

You'll probably be a lot older, and have gray hairs, before
you get that working :-) But, it's possible.


Ha. I already have those! :-P

"Disconnect any other hard disk drives (internally) from it" ... Is
this really required? Again, I am disabled to open case and go inside
my computer. :-(


This is purely up to you. I've had enough "accidents", like
needing do a "fixmbr", to consider it easier to just disconnect
any disks I don't want damaged, than to clean up a mess later.


Ah. I remember I did that with my Debian new installation to a new SSD,
and it wrote Grub to to my PATA/IDE HDD! No, I did not want that.


You can probably work your way out of any problem later,
using brain rather than brawn. It's a lot easier for
me to pull the cables, because the side is always off
the computer. I'm just waiting now, for the connectors
to wear out.


Heh.


Note that, not even the BIOS settings for disks work. There
is a "disable" per drive in a lot of BIOS setup screens, but
stupid Linux will re-enable the drives, and then they can get
written to by GRUB during an install. So the computer is
pretty defenseless in that regard. Only the "write protect"
jumper on the old SCSI drives, works worth a damn. That would
stop anything from writing, but still allow you to read drives.
It's the kind of thing, you could connect up a switch and place it
on the front panel.


Ah.
--
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line, a long, a long, long mile of ants. Sometimes they will walk over
and pick up their dead friends and carry those around. I'm pretty sure
it's because they can get in the carpool lane and pass up that line."
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Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer.
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Old June 9th 12, 05:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ant[_3_]
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootableslipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

On 6/8/2012 7:47 PM PT, Paul typed:

To give an example of the strange things that can happen,
consider my Win2K install attempt yesterday.

The disk had a single primary partition, with C: containing Win2K.

I wanted to install a second copy of the OS, clean, with no CODECs
in it. So I could reproduce a problem with "dvdplay.exe".

When I went to install, instead of making a new complete partition,
marking it active, the installer decided instead, to keep the existing
C: as the "boot" solution. So the first partition remained the one
with the active boot flag. The OS installed into a second partition,
with the letter "E:". So my new install wasn't on C:. The first partition
handles the boot duties. The second partition doesn't have a
complete set of files either. The pagefile and hiberfil are on
the first partition. Quite possibly the boot.ini is as well.

This made things annoying when installing drivers, because I'd have to
remember that my new partition was E: and not C:.

The installer also made the second partition, a "logical" partition
in an extended. So the partition table had a FAT32 primary partition
for the original C:, plus an extended in which a single logical partition
E: was located. I could undo that with Partition Magic, without
breaking anything. But I stopped there, and didn't attempt to make
the second partition the booting partition. Wasn't worth the trouble,
and I was afraid of messing up a partition drive letter dependency
along the way.

So all sorts of things can happen when you do an install, and
what happened there, wasn't what I wanted at all. But since that
wasn't a long term setup, it won't be around to annoy me for much
longer. And it didn't break the original C:, which still works.


Ugh, how annoying.
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Old June 9th 12, 03:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
BillW50
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootable slipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

In ,
glee typed:
"Paul" wrote in message
...
snip
http://www.techspot.com/community/to...-drive.116114/

You'll probably be a lot older, and have gray hairs, before
you get that working :-) But, it's possible.


LOL!


Naw. piece of cake. Casper does all of the hard work for you. Glen just
likes to rant and show how ignorant he can be. Some people are like that
for some reason. :-(

Boot and Run Your Computer from a USB Drive -- creates a fully
bootable copy of a Windows system drive that can boot and run
directly from an external USB drive. (Note: Requires computer
with BIOS support for booting from USB hard disk type devices.)

http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/benefits.aspx

--
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Old June 9th 12, 05:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootable slipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
glee typed:
"Paul" wrote in message
...
snip
http://www.techspot.com/community/to...-drive.116114/

You'll probably be a lot older, and have gray hairs, before
you get that working :-) But, it's possible.


LOL!


Naw. piece of cake. Casper does all of the hard work for you. Glen
just likes to rant and show how ignorant he can be. Some people are
like that for some reason. :-(
snip


Paul made the statement, you ignorant troll. All I posted was an LOL to
Paul's comment. Still haven't improved your reading comprehension, I
see.
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Old June 9th 12, 05:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
BillW50
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootable slipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

In ,
glee typed:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
glee typed:
"Paul" wrote in message
...
snip
http://www.techspot.com/community/to...-drive.116114/

You'll probably be a lot older, and have gray hairs, before
you get that working :-) But, it's possible.

LOL!


Naw. piece of cake. Casper does all of the hard work for you. Glen
just likes to rant and show how ignorant he can be. Some people are
like that for some reason. :-(
snip


Paul made the statement, you ignorant troll. All I posted was an LOL
to Paul's comment. Still haven't improved your reading
comprehension, I see.


I know Paul said it you arrogant ass! And you didn't offer to help, but
just laugh like a ranting fool who has nothing to do but to harass
people and to say people said things they didn't like an evil little
worthless troll that you are. I never kill filed anybody in my life. But
you are bucking the limit and I might make an exception.

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Old June 9th 12, 05:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
glee
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootable slipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
glee typed:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
glee typed:
"Paul" wrote in message
...
snip
http://www.techspot.com/community/to...-drive.116114/

You'll probably be a lot older, and have gray hairs, before
you get that working :-) But, it's possible.

LOL!

Naw. piece of cake. Casper does all of the hard work for you. Glen
just likes to rant and show how ignorant he can be. Some people are
like that for some reason. :-(
snip


Paul made the statement, you ignorant troll. All I posted was an LOL
to Paul's comment. Still haven't improved your reading
comprehension, I see.


I know Paul said it you arrogant ass! And you didn't offer to help,
but just laugh like a ranting fool who has nothing to do but to harass
people and to say people said things they didn't like an evil little
worthless troll that you are. I never kill filed anybody in my life.
But you are bucking the limit and I might make an exception.


Promises, promises... killfile me so you will stop your trolling,
please! I laughed at Paul's joke... can't you even see the smiley he
included indicating his joke? Geez, you're sad.
Funny, an arrogant ass like yourself calling someone that. You trolled
me for a week or more over the Office update site and updates, which you
were dead wrong about, and you still went on and on even when confronted
with the facts. So please, killfile me.... I'd consider it an honor
coming from you.
--
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MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

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Old June 9th 12, 05:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
BillW50
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootable slipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

In ,
glee typed:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
glee typed:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
glee typed:
"Paul" wrote in message
...
snip
http://www.techspot.com/community/to...-drive.116114/

You'll probably be a lot older, and have gray hairs, before
you get that working :-) But, it's possible.

LOL!

Naw. piece of cake. Casper does all of the hard work for you. Glen
just likes to rant and show how ignorant he can be. Some people are
like that for some reason. :-(
snip

Paul made the statement, you ignorant troll. All I posted was an
LOL to Paul's comment. Still haven't improved your reading
comprehension, I see.


I know Paul said it you arrogant ass! And you didn't offer to help,
but just laugh like a ranting fool who has nothing to do but to
harass people and to say people said things they didn't like an evil
little worthless troll that you are. I never kill filed anybody in
my life. But you are bucking the limit and I might make an exception.


Promises, promises... killfile me so you will stop your trolling,
please! I laughed at Paul's joke... can't you even see the smiley he
included indicating his joke? Geez, you're sad.
Funny, an arrogant ass like yourself calling someone that. You
trolled me for a week or more over the Office update site and
updates, which you were dead wrong about, and you still went on and
on even when confronted with the facts. So please, killfile me....
I'd consider it an honor coming from you.


You always get things wrong. I was not wrong about supplying a list of
updates for Office 2000. And when I try to help somebody, you try your
best to cause problems by harassing, belittling, lying, and using every
dishonest means at your disposal. But that is what a low life like you
do anyway. So no news there.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP2


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Old June 9th 12, 06:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
glee
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Default Is it possible to install Windows XP Pro. SP3, with its bootable slipstreamed CD, into an external USB2 HDD?

"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
glee typed:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
glee typed:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
glee typed:
"Paul" wrote in message
...
snip
http://www.techspot.com/community/to...-drive.116114/

You'll probably be a lot older, and have gray hairs, before
you get that working :-) But, it's possible.

LOL!

Naw. piece of cake. Casper does all of the hard work for you. Glen
just likes to rant and show how ignorant he can be. Some people
are
like that for some reason. :-(
snip

Paul made the statement, you ignorant troll. All I posted was an
LOL to Paul's comment. Still haven't improved your reading
comprehension, I see.

I know Paul said it you arrogant ass! And you didn't offer to help,
but just laugh like a ranting fool who has nothing to do but to
harass people and to say people said things they didn't like an evil
little worthless troll that you are. I never kill filed anybody in
my life. But you are bucking the limit and I might make an
exception.


Promises, promises... killfile me so you will stop your trolling,
please! I laughed at Paul's joke... can't you even see the smiley he
included indicating his joke? Geez, you're sad.
Funny, an arrogant ass like yourself calling someone that. You
trolled me for a week or more over the Office update site and
updates, which you were dead wrong about, and you still went on and
on even when confronted with the facts. So please, killfile me....
I'd consider it an honor coming from you.


You always get things wrong. I was not wrong about supplying a list of
updates for Office 2000. And when I try to help somebody, you try your
best to cause problems by harassing, belittling, lying, and using
every dishonest means at your disposal. But that is what a low life
like you do anyway. So no news there.


Your troll-fest wasn't about your list of updates.... it never was,
though that's all you seem to be able to recall... it was about the
Office Update site and the location of Office update downloads *prior
to* Office 2000. You still have that reading comprehension problem.
I suggest you seek some professional help if you cannot take corrections
without resorting to name calling and slander, which has been you modus
operandi every time someone questions your statements or corrects you.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

 




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