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Old February 25th 13, 06:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
R.Wieser
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Default filebrowser sorting on name -- doesn't quite do it ...

Hello All,

Just the other day I re-noticed that the filebrowser (file explorer) doesn't
quite display the filenames in ASCI order. Example:

.....
4FB99E33.DAT
4FCD66DC.DAT
04FD1641.DAT
.....

It looks like Windows sorting-mechanism simply ignores the leading Zero ....

Question: Is there a setting with which that last filename is again placed
(in this example) at the top (sorts in simple alphabetical/ASCII order) ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



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Old February 25th 13, 08:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default filebrowser sorting on name -- doesn't quite do it ...

On 2/25/13 10:38 AM, R.Wieser wrote:
Hello All,

Just the other day I re-noticed that the filebrowser (file explorer) doesn't
quite display the filenames in ASCI order. Example:

....
4FB99E33.DAT
4FCD66DC.DAT
04FD1641.DAT
....

It looks like Windows sorting-mechanism simply ignores the leading Zero ....

Question: Is there a setting with which that last filename is again placed
(in this example) at the top (sorts in simple alphabetical/ASCII order) ?


I'm not that hexadecimal knowledgeable/competent, but could that be "oh
four" rather than "zero four"?


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Old February 26th 13, 12:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default filebrowser sorting on name -- doesn't quite do it ...

R.Wieser wrote:

Hello All,

Just the other day I re-noticed that the filebrowser (file explorer) doesn't
quite display the filenames in ASCI order. Example:

....
4FB99E33.DAT
4FCD66DC.DAT
04FD1641.DAT
....

It looks like Windows sorting-mechanism simply ignores the leading Zero ....

Question: Is there a setting with which that last filename is again placed
(in this example) at the top (sorts in simple alphabetical/ASCII order) ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319827

Numeric value (of a string portion consisting of all digits) is the same
no matter how many leading zeroes you add. Leading zeroes are not
significant characters. 4 = 04 = 004 = 0004 = 00004 = 000004 = 0000004.
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Old February 26th 13, 12:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
Barry Schwarz[_2_]
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Default filebrowser sorting on name -- doesn't quite do it ...

Google "windows sort order" with the quotes and read about your
options.

On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:38:14 +0100, "R.Wieser"
wrote:

Hello All,

Just the other day I re-noticed that the filebrowser (file explorer) doesn't
quite display the filenames in ASCI order. Example:

....
4FB99E33.DAT
4FCD66DC.DAT
04FD1641.DAT
....

It looks like Windows sorting-mechanism simply ignores the leading Zero ....

Question: Is there a setting with which that last filename is again placed
(in this example) at the top (sorts in simple alphabetical/ASCII order) ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



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Old February 26th 13, 10:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
R.Wieser
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Default filebrowser sorting on name -- doesn't quite do it ...

Hello Ken,

I'm not that hexadecimal knowledgeable/competent, but could that
be "oh four" rather than "zero four"?


What you see is indeed a 4-byte hexadecimal value, and this one actually
starts with 'zero four' (I'm generating those filenames myself).
Thanks for the "could be causing it" suggestion though.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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...
On 2/25/13 10:38 AM, R.Wieser wrote:
Hello All,

Just the other day I re-noticed that the filebrowser (file explorer)

doesn't
quite display the filenames in ASCI order. Example:

....
4FB99E33.DAT
4FCD66DC.DAT
04FD1641.DAT
....

It looks like Windows sorting-mechanism simply ignores the leading Zero

.....

Question: Is there a setting with which that last filename is again

placed
(in this example) at the top (sorts in simple alphabetical/ASCII order)

?

I'm not that hexadecimal knowledgeable/competent, but could that be "oh
four" rather than "zero four"?


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.2
Firefox 18.0.2
Thunderbird 17.0.2
LibreOffice 3.6.5.2





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Old February 26th 13, 11:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
R.Wieser
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Default filebrowser sorting on name -- doesn't quite do it ...

Hello Barry,

Google "windows sort order"


Thank you for that, that (first result) "ghacks.net" article gave me back
the most logical (for me) sort-order.

And my apologies, I should have done that before asking my question here.
To my defense, I did browse thru the folder settings and found nothing in
that regard .... :-)

One question though: Its a setting in the "policies" branch of the
registry, which means its enforced onto all the users of that machine. Do
you perhaps also know where to apply the same setting, but now for a single
user ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
Barry Schwarz schreef in berichtnieuws
...
Google "windows sort order" with the quotes and read about your
options.

On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:38:14 +0100, "R.Wieser"
wrote:

Hello All,

Just the other day I re-noticed that the filebrowser (file explorer)

doesn't
quite display the filenames in ASCI order. Example:

....
4FB99E33.DAT
4FCD66DC.DAT
04FD1641.DAT
....

It looks like Windows sorting-mechanism simply ignores the leading Zero

.....

Question: Is there a setting with which that last filename is again

placed
(in this example) at the top (sorts in simple alphabetical/ASCII order) ?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser



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Old February 26th 13, 11:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics
R.Wieser
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Default filebrowser sorting on name -- doesn't quite do it ...

Hello VanguardLH,

Leading zeroes are not significant characters.


Very true for calculations, quite untrue when a human, in this case me,
needs
to find a certain entry in a list.

Also, I have no idea why the OS should think it should regard a set of
*filenames* (for me always just bits of text) as something else.

.... As an afterthought, maybe MS should have added it as a per-folder
setting. Use it when needed, leave the other folders to be sorted normally.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
VanguardLH schreef in berichtnieuws
...
R.Wieser wrote:

Hello All,

Just the other day I re-noticed that the filebrowser (file explorer)

doesn't
quite display the filenames in ASCI order. Example:

....
4FB99E33.DAT
4FCD66DC.DAT
04FD1641.DAT
....

It looks like Windows sorting-mechanism simply ignores the leading Zero

.....

Question: Is there a setting with which that last filename is again

placed
(in this example) at the top (sorts in simple alphabetical/ASCII order)

?

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/319827

Numeric value (of a string portion consisting of all digits) is the same
no matter how many leading zeroes you add. Leading zeroes are not
significant characters. 4 = 04 = 004 = 0004 = 00004 = 000004 = 0000004.







 




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