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Old September 5th 16, 03:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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I want to send a 1.6 Gb movie of my granddaughter's B.D. to my daughter.

Yahoo only lets you send 25 Mb and Dropbox said it would take 5 hrs.

Does seem like a reasonable amount of time or is there a faster way ?

Andy
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Old September 5th 16, 04:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Andy wrote:
I want to send a 1.6 Gb movie of my granddaughter's B.D. to my daughter.

Yahoo only lets you send 25 Mb and Dropbox said it would take 5 hrs.

Does seem like a reasonable amount of time or is there a faster way ?

Andy


Dropbox is slow. I hardly use it any more.
Try filedropper.com.
I have 28.2mbit/3.5mbyte down and 4.5mbit/0.5mbyte up and
it takes 30 min to upload one gbyte.

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Old September 5th 16, 04:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 05/09/2016 03:19, Andy wrote:
I want to send a 1.6 Gb movie of my granddaughter's B.D. to my daughter.

Yahoo only lets you send 25 Mb and Dropbox said it would take 5 hrs.

Does seem like a reasonable amount of time or is there a faster way ?

Andy

Copy it on to a DVD and send it by post. Asking her to download using a
slow internet might take 1 week but sending by snail mail will take 2
days and she has a hard copy for future viewing.

You must be mad to upload it online and ask your daughter to download it
when you know nothing about her ability to know all these things.




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Old September 5th 16, 05:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Andy wrote:
I want to send a 1.6 Gb movie of my granddaughter's B.D. to my daughter.

Yahoo only lets you send 25 Mb and Dropbox said it would take 5 hrs.

Does seem like a reasonable amount of time or is there a faster way ?

Andy


Most video formats are already compressed using a lossy
method with 100:1 compression. So if someone says "let's
use ZIP", no, that won't help. The file will still be
1.6GB in size. ZIP or 7Z won't reduce the size by all
that much. It won't make it 10MB. Maybe 1.59GB in size.

You look at the upload rate of your ADSL service, to figure
out how long it will take.

Let's take my fine fine service as an example. I had two
choices in services I could get

15Mbit/sec down 1Mbit/sec up --- Non-Dropbox user uses this

15Mbit/sec down 10Mbit/sec up --- Dropbox user selects VDSL and
pays $3 a month more.

See what a cheapskate I am ? :-)

I selected the top service, because I have no intention
of doing Cloud storage.

*******

OK, now let's get serious.

1Mbit/sec, I need to convert to bytes by dividing by 8.

That gives me an upload rate of 125,000 bytes/sec.

1,600,000,000 bytes
------------- = 12800 seconds = 3.56 hours
125,000 bytes per sec

That sounds about right. With asymmetric broadband, the
upload is going to be the dominant part, so my estimate
is 3.56 hours. Your upload rate might be less than mine,
in my example.

*******

To upload a giant file with email, you "segment" it.
Using a "no compression" option, you use your favorite
ZIP program, and tell it to convert the archive it is
making, into files of fixed size. You can ask it to
package the 1.6GB file, as 1.zip, 2.zip, ... 64.zip.
Each file is 25MB. Then, you send 64 emails.

Dear Jane:

Attached, please find 1.zip.

Dear Jane:

Attached, please find 2.zip.

And so on.

To send the 64 emails, takes 3.56 hours.
Does this sound familiar ? Of course it
does. It takes the same time to upload
64x25MB files as it takes to upload 1600MB single
file. Plus the overhead of the "Dear Jane" sentence :-)

In fact, some email attachment encodings are not
all that efficient, so the result could actually
be a lot worse than 3.56 hours. You only do
stuff like that, when desperate, and email is
the only only option.

*******

Enjoy your 3.56 hour adventure.

Or, get better "upload" on your Internet service.
For me, I could make my delay 0.356 hours, by
paying just $3 more per month. I think I would
also pay a rental fee on the VDSL modem (I own
the ADSL2 one I've got, but they don't
let you buy your own VDSL one).

Since I don't upload 1.6GB files, I decided to
save the $3 and buy half a hamburger with it.

If you happen to be on cable, it's probably
not that bad.

My 15/1 service is mainly intended for downloads.
If I was a dropbox user, I'd get the 15/10 service.

Paul
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Old September 5th 16, 07:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sun, 4 Sep 2016 19:19:45 -0700 (PDT), Andy wrote:
I want to send a 1.6 Gb movie of my granddaughter's B.D. to my daughter.

Yahoo only lets you send 25 Mb and Dropbox said it would take 5 hrs.

Does seem like a reasonable amount of time or is there a faster way ?

Andy


If I were in your shoes, I'd use a file sharing software. Your PC will act
as a server, and your daughter's PC will be the client. Your daughter will
need to have the same file sharing software as yours.

Advantages:

- No need to buy an online storage.

- Data transfer can be paused and resumed, even after system shutdown.

Disadvatages:

- Need a software in both PCs.

- Can be slower if the ISP throttled the upstream badwidth too much.

- May not be possible due to ISP firewall.

Note: I'd suggest not sharing your data publicly. Check the software
setting.
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Old September 5th 16, 05:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default O.T. Faster way of send file to online storage

Andy wrote:
I want to send a 1.6 Gb movie of my granddaughter's B.D. to my daughter.

Yahoo only lets you send 25 Mb and Dropbox said it would take 5 hrs.

Does seem like a reasonable amount of time or is there a faster way ?


You are posting here with a gmail From. When you 'try to' gmail a big
file, gmail urges you to use google drive instead.

Google drive can accept huge 10G files, and you can control who the file
is shared with, such as the recipient only.

Alternately you could put the file on a DVD or small 2G USB and mail it
depending on the bandwidth and capabilities on both ends.


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Old September 5th 16, 06:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Mike Easter wrote:
Google drive can accept huge 10G files


More. For such as a movie, google drive can accept up to 5T files, if
you should have that much google storage. Most people are going to be
limited by their default 15G total storage for gmail & drive.

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Old September 5th 16, 06:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default O.T. Faster way of send file to online storage

On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 10:52:01 PM UTC-5, Good Guy wrote:
On 05/09/2016 03:19, Andy wrote:



I want to send a 1.6 Gb movie of my granddaughter's B.D. to my daughter.

Yahoo only lets you send 25 Mb and Dropbox said it would take 5 hrs.

Does seem like a reasonable amount of time or is there a faster way ?

Andy


Copy it
on to a DVD and send it by post.Â* Asking her to download using a
slow internet might take 1 week but sending by snail mail will
take 2 days and she has a hard copy for future viewing.



You must be mad to upload it online and ask your daughter to
download it when you know nothing about her ability to know all
these things.


Not hardly.

You made some silly assumptions when you posted. :-)

My daughter is very intelligent.

Andy

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Old September 5th 16, 07:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 09:49:35 -0700, Mike Easter
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Alternately you could put the file on a DVD


+1 on that.
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Old September 5th 16, 08:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 9/4/2016 11:16 PM, JJ wrote:
On Sun, 4 Sep 2016 19:19:45 -0700 (PDT), Andy wrote:
I want to send a 1.6 Gb movie of my granddaughter's B.D. to my daughter.

Yahoo only lets you send 25 Mb and Dropbox said it would take 5 hrs.

Does seem like a reasonable amount of time or is there a faster way ?

Andy


If I were in your shoes, I'd use a file sharing software. Your PC will act
as a server, and your daughter's PC will be the client. Your daughter will
need to have the same file sharing software as yours.

Advantages:

- No need to buy an online storage.

- Data transfer can be paused and resumed, even after system shutdown.

Disadvatages:

- Need a software in both PCs.

- Can be slower if the ISP throttled the upstream badwidth too much.

- May not be possible due to ISP firewall.

Note: I'd suggest not sharing your data publicly. Check the software
setting.

Or run your own http server that's only up when you want to transfer a file.
Can be accessed by anything with a web browser.

www.rejetto.com

I use it for local file transfer when I don't want to hassle with all
the setup and passwords and compatibility issues between operating
systems. Of course, you'd probably want to use passwords if you
expose it to the web. Just turn it off after she gets the file.
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Old September 5th 16, 09:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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mike wrote:
Or run your own http server that's only up when you want to transfer a
file.
Can be accessed by anything with a web browser.

www.rejetto.com

I use it for local file transfer when I don't want to hassle with
all the setup and passwords and compatibility issues between
operating systems. Of course, you'd probably want to use passwords if
you expose it to the web. Just turn it off after she gets the file.


That's interesting. The tutorial is helpful about such as the
in/security aspects and configuring one's router.

Allegedly the little executable also runs under linux wine.



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Old September 5th 16, 09:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On 05/09/2016 18:44, Andy wrote:


You made some silly assumptions when you posted. :-)

My daughter is very intelligent.


That's very unusual. Children normally inherit genes from parents!!!




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Old September 6th 16, 03:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Monday, September 5, 2016 at 3:42:58 PM UTC-5, Good Guy wrote:
On 05/09/2016 18:44, Andy wrote:





You made some silly assumptions when you posted. :-)

My daughter is very intelligent.





That's very unusual.Â* Children normally inherit genes from
parents!!!

faction is higher than any
previous version of windows.


Hopefully your kids, if you have any, did not inherit your lack of tactfulness.

Andy
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Old September 6th 16, 04:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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[Default] On Mon, 05 Sep 2016 12:45:16 -0700, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general mike wrote:

On 9/4/2016 11:16 PM, JJ wrote:
On Sun, 4 Sep 2016 19:19:45 -0700 (PDT), Andy wrote:
I want to send a 1.6 Gb movie of my granddaughter's B.D. to my daughter.

Yahoo only lets you send 25 Mb and Dropbox said it would take 5 hrs.

Does seem like a reasonable amount of time or is there a faster way ?

Andy


If I were in your shoes, I'd use a file sharing software. Your PC will act
as a server, and your daughter's PC will be the client. Your daughter will
need to have the same file sharing software as yours.

Advantages:

- No need to buy an online storage.

- Data transfer can be paused and resumed, even after system shutdown.


Another advantage maybe: Will I be able to tell girls in bars that I
run my own server?

Disadvatages:


Possible disadvantage: Will telling them this do me any good?

- Need a software in both PCs.

- Can be slower if the ISP throttled the upstream badwidth too much.

- May not be possible due to ISP firewall.

Note: I'd suggest not sharing your data publicly. Check the software
setting.

Or run your own http server that's only up when you want to transfer a file.
Can be accessed by anything with a web browser.

www.rejetto.com

I use it for local file transfer when I don't want to hassle with all


From one computer on the LAN to another? That sounds really great.

the setup and passwords and compatibility issues between operating
systems.


Yes, I've been bogged down by all of that.

Of course, you'd probably want to use passwords if you
expose it to the web. Just turn it off after she gets the file.

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Old September 6th 16, 04:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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[Default] On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 10:16:28 -0700, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Mike Easter
wrote:

Mike Easter wrote:
Google drive can accept huge 10G files


More. For such as a movie, google drive can accept up to 5T files, if


That would be an awfully long movie. I'm tired just thinking about
it.

But I liked your idea about mailing the DVD or flashdrive. So much
simpler.

you should have that much google storage. Most people are going to be
limited by their default 15G total storage for gmail & drive.

 




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