My WIFI does not show any available servers (Lenovo T43 Laptop with XP Pro SP3, 32bit)

The computer is: Lenovo T43 Laptop with XP Pro SP3, 32bit

Several weeks ago I posted the thread "XP Wont boot (with HDD
transplant)". After wasting several hours trying to follow the advice on
here and on several websites, I finally decided it would not likely work
to transplant the HDD, and I had already wasted enough time trying. I
copied the entire HDD to a flash drive using Puppy Linux, and proceeded
to reinstall Windows. I grabbed a pre-activated XP SP3 CD and installed
XP from scratch.

When I was done, I had a working "raw" copy of XP.
However, I had no access to the computers built in WIFI, and the WIFI
card was not even recognized.

NOTE: On my old T43 computer, I installed XP with the same CD, and
immediately had working WIFI.

Of course Windows lead me to the HELP FILES, which told me to connect to
the internet to download some drivers. (How the F**K am I supposed to
connect ot the internet)...... (This is not the first time I ran into
this, and it makes me wonder what kind of idiots at MS designed XP).

Anyhow, I unplugged that HDD, and put back the HDD that came with this
new computer, with a fresh copy of XP installed. I had planned to format
that drive, because I dont trust an OS installed on a computer that I
buy from a private party.

Anyhow, that HDD with XP installed, does recognize the WIFI card.....
-BUT- When I click on the WIFI icon, it will NOT give me a list of
available WIFI servers. I did this at the place in town which gives me
the best WIFI signal. Yet, I did not see that place or any other places
on the list. I ran the REPAIR thingie on that's built in, and got an
error message telling me it could not connect. I also got several times
something telling me that a network cable is not plugged in. (There are
no cables, the WIFI is built into the computer).

So, I drove across town and went to the public library. I know they
always have their WIFI working, even though it's slower than the
restaurant I usually use. The same thing happened there. (No WIFI
available). I was just about ready to go home and see if it's possible
to swap the wifi card from my old (dead) T43 into this computer (I'm not
sure if that is a plug in card, or what, where it is).
That's when I clicked on some weblink in the computer, which opened
Firefox, and I was actually connected to their WIFI and a webpage
loaded.

So, what I now have, is a working WIFI, but I dont know if it's
connected, or what it's connected to, because the "List of available
WIFI servers" is still blank and is telling me there are none available.

If this is not confusing enough, when I rebooted the computer, a message
popped up telling me (some number) of WIFI servers are available, yet
the list still does not list them....... WTF?????

How do I fix this?

(Note: Device manager does not show any yellow question marks for
devices and drivers, it shows everything is working).

In message ,
writes:
The computer is: Lenovo T43 Laptop with XP Pro SP3, 32bit
[]
When I was done, I had a working "raw" copy of XP.
However, I had no access to the computers built in WIFI, and the WIFI
card was not even recognized.

NOTE: On my old T43 computer, I installed XP with the same CD, and
immediately had working WIFI.

_Sounds_ like Lenovo changed source of wifi hardware during the T43
production run. Assuming all else is the same, i. e. you installed from
the same CD onto a blank HD in both cases.

(You refer to it as "a pre-activated XP SP3 CD" - is that a
volume-licenced one you've somehow got hold of?)

Of course Windows lead me to the HELP FILES, which told me to connect to
the internet to download some drivers. (How the F**K am I supposed to
connect ot the internet)...... (This is not the first time I ran into
this, and it makes me wonder what kind of idiots at MS designed XP).

Like the famous BIOS message "keyboard error: press F1 to continue" (-:

Anyhow, I unplugged that HDD, and put back the HDD that came with this
new computer, with a fresh copy of XP installed. I had planned to format
that drive, because I dont trust an OS installed on a computer that I
buy from a private party.

Don't trash what's on that drive for some while yet!

Anyhow, that HDD with XP installed, does recognize the WIFI card.....
-BUT- When I click on the WIFI icon, it will NOT give me a list of
available WIFI servers. I did this at the place in town which gives me

My first thought is that, yes, you've now got drivers for the wifi
hardware, but it's turned off. Sometimes this is a switch (key) on the
computer (sometimes by the keyboard, sometimes in an obscure position
round the outside somewhere); sometimes it's a secondary function of one
of the function keys (i. e. used with the Fn key, usually near the
bottom left); look at the Fn keys for an aerial or radio wave symbol. If
you're lucky, toggling it will make a relevant graphic pop up on screen
showing it enabled/disabled. But ...
[]
available). I was just about ready to go home and see if it's possible
to swap the wifi card from my old (dead) T43 into this computer (I'm not
sure if that is a plug in card, or what, where it is).
That's when I clicked on some weblink in the computer, which opened
Firefox, and I was actually connected to their WIFI and a webpage
loaded.

.... that suggests it isn't what I thought, unless either (a) that page
was loading from cache or local file rather than the internet, or (b)
you'd turned wifi on by accident.

(I don't know the T43, but on a lot of laptops it _is_ a separate card -
follow the wires from the aerial [usually just bare wires draped around
the screen] to find it. There are probably YouTube dismantling guides -
there are for a lot of machines. It's often a card about an inch by an
inch and a half.)

So, what I now have, is a working WIFI, but I dont know if it's
connected, or what it's connected to, because the "List of available
WIFI servers" is still blank and is telling me there are none available.

If this is not confusing enough, when I rebooted the computer, a message
popped up telling me (some number) of WIFI servers are available, yet
the list still does not list them....... WTF?????

How do I fix this?

(Note: Device manager does not show any yellow question marks for
devices and drivers, it shows everything is working).







7
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Veni Vidi Visa [I came, I saw, I did a little shopping] - Mik from S+AS Limited
), 1998

wrote:
The computer is: Lenovo T43 Laptop with XP Pro SP3, 32bit

Several weeks ago I posted the thread "XP Wont boot (with HDD
transplant)". After wasting several hours trying to follow the advice on
here and on several websites, I finally decided it would not likely work
to transplant the HDD, and I had already wasted enough time trying. I
copied the entire HDD to a flash drive using Puppy Linux, and proceeded
to reinstall Windows. I grabbed a pre-activated XP SP3 CD and installed
XP from scratch.

When I was done, I had a working "raw" copy of XP.
However, I had no access to the computers built in WIFI, and the WIFI
card was not even recognized.

NOTE: On my old T43 computer, I installed XP with the same CD, and
immediately had working WIFI.

Of course Windows lead me to the HELP FILES, which told me to connect to
the internet to download some drivers. (How the F**K am I supposed to
connect ot the internet)...... (This is not the first time I ran into
this, and it makes me wonder what kind of idiots at MS designed XP).

Anyhow, I unplugged that HDD, and put back the HDD that came with this
new computer, with a fresh copy of XP installed. I had planned to format
that drive, because I dont trust an OS installed on a computer that I
buy from a private party.

Anyhow, that HDD with XP installed, does recognize the WIFI card.....
-BUT- When I click on the WIFI icon, it will NOT give me a list of
available WIFI servers. I did this at the place in town which gives me
the best WIFI signal. Yet, I did not see that place or any other places
on the list. I ran the REPAIR thingie on that's built in, and got an
error message telling me it could not connect. I also got several times
something telling me that a network cable is not plugged in. (There are
no cables, the WIFI is built into the computer).

So, I drove across town and went to the public library. I know they
always have their WIFI working, even though it's slower than the
restaurant I usually use. The same thing happened there. (No WIFI
available). I was just about ready to go home and see if it's possible
to swap the wifi card from my old (dead) T43 into this computer (I'm not
sure if that is a plug in card, or what, where it is).
That's when I clicked on some weblink in the computer, which opened
Firefox, and I was actually connected to their WIFI and a webpage
loaded.

So, what I now have, is a working WIFI, but I dont know if it's
connected, or what it's connected to, because the "List of available
WIFI servers" is still blank and is telling me there are none available.

If this is not confusing enough, when I rebooted the computer, a message
popped up telling me (some number) of WIFI servers are available, yet
the list still does not list them....... WTF?????

How do I fix this?

(Note: Device manager does not show any yellow question marks for
devices and drivers, it shows everything is working).

It sounds like a problem with WZC or something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirele..._Configuration

"This can be used instead of, or in the absence of,
a wireless network utility from the manufacturer of
a computer's wireless networking device. The drivers
for the wireless adapter query the NDIS Object IDs and
pass the available network names (SSIDs) to the service.

The service then lists them in the user interface on the
Wireless Networks tab in the connection's Properties or
in the Wireless Network Connection dialog box accessible
from the notification area."

The driver package either comes with its own Wifi control panel
of some sort. Or, if the driver package is just a small NDIS, the
WZC (part of WinXP SP3) might take care of the rest.

http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/de...-on-windows-xp

http://www.edimax.us/html/Faq/FAQ_xpwireless.htm

*******

On some laptops, one of the doors on the bottom may
allow viewing the Wifi module. Sometimes you can
pick up a part number.

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/IBM_11...PCI_Adapter_II

"IBM Option PN (WW): 73P4301

Windows WiFi driver

A universal driver can be used. This can be downloaded at:

http://www.ekahau.com/products/client/drivers/atheros/

Ensure an installation diskette is saved first and then
proceed to update the driver of the mini pci card through
the device manager.
"

" * Chipset: Atheros AR5004X
* Radio Chip: Atheros AR5112
* MAC Processor: Atheros AR5213
* IEEE Standards: 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g
* PCI ID: 168c:1014
"

If you get just one Wifi connection to work, perhaps
you can try updating the Wifi driver over the air
(from Microsoft) at that point ? Make sure you have
enough backups, to get back to your original state
if there is trouble.

Linux loves Atheros, so if you run out of options,
you may be able to test the Wifi functions from Linux.

If it was a Broadcom, Linux has too many drivers, and it's
a matter of getting the right one to "take" and getting
the firmware package for the Wifi installed.

*******

Getting the SSIDs to be visible, is supposed to be the
easy part. I can't imagine what is preventing them
from bubbling to the surface.

Paul

wrote:
The computer is: Lenovo T43 Laptop with XP Pro SP3, 32bit

Anyhow, that HDD with XP installed, does recognize the WIFI card.....
-BUT- When I click on the WIFI icon, it will NOT give me a list of
available WIFI servers. I did this at the place in town which gives me
the best WIFI signal. Yet, I did not see that place or any other places
on the list. I ran the REPAIR thingie on that's built in, and got an
error message telling me it could not connect. I also got several times
something telling me that a network cable is not plugged in. (There are
no cables, the WIFI is built into the computer).

Try a Linux live cd to see if you access the web and verify hardware operation.
(I read your comment about FF going to their web page.)
If operational, then go to Lenovo and d/l the correct drivers.
You will need the TYPE code from the bottom of the unit.
(ex: TYPE 2516-DCU)

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:28:18 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message ,
writes:
The computer is: Lenovo T43 Laptop with XP Pro SP3, 32bit
[]
When I was done, I had a working "raw" copy of XP.
However, I had no access to the computers built in WIFI, and the WIFI
card was not even recognized.

NOTE: On my old T43 computer, I installed XP with the same CD, and
immediately had working WIFI.

_Sounds_ like Lenovo changed source of wifi hardware during the T43
production run. Assuming all else is the same, i. e. you installed from
the same CD onto a blank HD in both cases.

(You refer to it as "a pre-activated XP SP3 CD" - is that a
volume-licenced one you've somehow got hold of?)

Something like that.

Of course Windows lead me to the HELP FILES, which told me to connect to
the internet to download some drivers. (How the F**K am I supposed to
connect ot the internet)...... (This is not the first time I ran into
this, and it makes me wonder what kind of idiots at MS designed XP).

Like the famous BIOS message "keyboard error: press F1 to continue" (-:

Yep !!!

Anyhow, I unplugged that HDD, and put back the HDD that came with this
new computer, with a fresh copy of XP installed. I had planned to format
that drive, because I dont trust an OS installed on a computer that I
buy from a private party.

Don't trash what's on that drive for some while yet!

Before I do, I have a program that will extract all the drivers. Then
again, I may just leave it installed. The only problem is that it came
with AVG anti virus. I hate that damn thing and cant see how to disable
it. It keeps popping up annoying messages and its causing XP to take
literally 3 to 4 minutes to boot up.

Anyhow, that HDD with XP installed, does recognize the WIFI card.....
-BUT- When I click on the WIFI icon, it will NOT give me a list of
available WIFI servers. I did this at the place in town which gives me

My first thought is that, yes, you've now got drivers for the wifi
hardware, but it's turned off. Sometimes this is a switch (key) on the
computer (sometimes by the keyboard, sometimes in an obscure position
round the outside somewhere); sometimes it's a secondary function of one
of the function keys (i. e. used with the Fn key, usually near the
bottom left); look at the Fn keys for an aerial or radio wave symbol. If
you're lucky, toggling it will make a relevant graphic pop up on screen
showing it enabled/disabled. But ...

The switch is supposed to be the FN and F5 keys. Nothing happens when I
click them.

available). I was just about ready to go home and see if it's possible
to swap the wifi card from my old (dead) T43 into this computer (I'm not
sure if that is a plug in card, or what, where it is).
That's when I clicked on some weblink in the computer, which opened
Firefox, and I was actually connected to their WIFI and a webpage
loaded.

... that suggests it isn't what I thought, unless either (a) that page
was loading from cache or local file rather than the internet, or (b)
you'd turned wifi on by accident.

No cache. I had just installed Firefox. It came with IE8 and Chrome
installed. I copied the installer for FF from my desktop puter, via a
flash drive, and installed it. I pretty much only use FF. I dislike
Chrome. I'll use IE before Chrome.

(I don't know the T43, but on a lot of laptops it _is_ a separate card -
follow the wires from the aerial [usually just bare wires draped around
the screen] to find it. There are probably YouTube dismantling guides -
there are for a lot of machines. It's often a card about an inch by an
inch and a half.)

There is no aerial

So, what I now have, is a working WIFI, but I dont know if it's
connected, or what it's connected to, because the "List of available
WIFI servers" is still blank and is telling me there are none available.

If this is not confusing enough, when I rebooted the computer, a message
popped up telling me (some number) of WIFI servers are available, yet
the list still does not list them....... WTF?????

How do I fix this?

(Note: Device manager does not show any yellow question marks for
devices and drivers, it shows everything is working).


The next time I tried to connect, it refused to connect at all.

Today I tried again, after reinstalling the driver. Same thing, it
refused to connect. After screwing around with settings, (many which I
have no clue what I'm doing), it did connect. I watched several youtube
videos, and went to ebay, and some other webpages. Then I rebooted, and
once again, I can not connect at all.

This is the log file which I was able to link to from IE.
(When I can not connect)

I am at a restaurant sitting about 12 feet from their WIFI server.
(I always got an excellent WIFI connection at this restaurant on my old
-now dead- computer)

---------

Last diagnostic run time: 09/12/16 21:55:26 Wireless Diagnostic

Wireless - Service disabled

Wireless - User SSID

action User input required: Specify network name or SSID
Wireless - First time setup

info The Wireless Network name (SSID) to which the user would like to
connect = Hardees.
Wireless - Radio off

Wireless - Out of range

Wireless - Hardware issue

Wireless - Novice user

action Manual repair: Add wireless network to the preferred list
info Redirecting user to support call



WinSock Diagnostic
WinSock status

info IrDA protocol is not found in Winsock catalog.
info All base service provider entries are present in the Winsock
catalog.
info The Winsock Service provider chains are valid.
info Provider entry MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IP] passed the loopback
communication test.
info Provider entry MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IP] passed the loopback
communication test.
info Provider entry RSVP UDP Service Provider passed the loopback
communication test.
info Provider entry RSVP TCP Service Provider passed the loopback
communication test.
info Provider entry MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IPv6] passed the loopback
communication test.
info Provider entry MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IPv6] passed the loopback
communication test.
info Connectivity is valid for all Winsock service providers.



Network Adapter Diagnostic
Network location detection

info Using home Internet connection
Network adapter identification

info Network connection: Name=Wireless Network Connection,
Device=11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter II, MediaType=LAN,
SubMediaType=WIRELESS
info Network connection: Name=Local Area Connection, Device=Intel(R)
PRO/1000 MT Mobile Connection, MediaType=LAN, SubMediaType=LAN
info Both Ethernet and Wireless connections available, prompting user
for selection
action User input required: Select network connection
info Wireless connection selected
Network adapter status

info Network connection status: Connected



HTTP, HTTPS, FTP Diagnostic
HTTP, HTTPS, FTP connectivity

warn HTTP: Error 12007 connecting to www.microsoft.com: The server name
or address could not be resolved
warn HTTPS: Error 12007 connecting to www.microsoft.com: The server name
or address could not be resolved
warn FTP (Passive): Error 12007 connecting to ftp.microsoft.com: The
server name or address could not be resolved
warn HTTP: Error 12007 connecting to www.hotmail.com: The server name or
address could not be resolved
warn HTTPS: Error 12007 connecting to www.passport.net: The server name
or address could not be resolved
warn FTP (Active): Error 12007 connecting to ftp.microsoft.com: The
server name or address could not be resolved
error Could not make an HTTP connection.
error Could not make an HTTPS connection.
error Could not make an FTP connection.

wrote:

The server name or address could not be resolved
error Could not make an HTTP connection.
error Could not make an HTTPS connection.
error Could not make an FTP connection.

DNS problem ?

You could try setting the DNS address to use Google DNS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Public_DNS

"Google Public DNS operates recursive name servers for public
use at the following IP addresses:

8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 for IPv4 service --- Use these

2001:4860:4860::8888 and 2001:4860:4860::8844 for IPv6 access.

The addresses are mapped to the nearest operational
server by anycast routing.
"

The dialog looks like this. You can (eventually) leave the
"Obtain An IP Address" at Automatic, after setting the lower
section to use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.

https://p6.zdusercontent.com/attachm...dj9d0jyv3fcxkx

Then open a Command Prompt and do some

nslookup www.sun.com

style of testing. Or you could run your diagnostic again if
you want.

Paul

On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 11:11:44 -0400, Paul wrote:

wrote:

The server name or address could not be resolved
error Could not make an HTTP connection.
error Could not make an HTTPS connection.
error Could not make an FTP connection.

DNS problem ?

You could try setting the DNS address to use Google DNS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Public_DNS

"Google Public DNS operates recursive name servers for public
use at the following IP addresses:

8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 for IPv4 service --- Use these

2001:4860:4860::8888 and 2001:4860:4860::8844 for IPv6 access.

The addresses are mapped to the nearest operational
server by anycast routing.
"

The dialog looks like this. You can (eventually) leave the
"Obtain An IP Address" at Automatic, after setting the lower
section to use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.

https://p6.zdusercontent.com/attachm...dj9d0jyv3fcxkx

Then open a Command Prompt and do some

nslookup www.sun.com

style of testing. Or you could run your diagnostic again if
you want.

Paul

Ok, but where / how do I set this???

Thanks

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 11:11:44 -0400, Paul wrote:

wrote:

The server name or address could not be resolved
error Could not make an HTTP connection.
error Could not make an HTTPS connection.
error Could not make an FTP connection.
DNS problem ?

You could try setting the DNS address to use Google DNS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Public_DNS

"Google Public DNS operates recursive name servers for public
use at the following IP addresses:

8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 for IPv4 service --- Use these

2001:4860:4860::8888 and 2001:4860:4860::8844 for IPv6 access.

The addresses are mapped to the nearest operational
server by anycast routing.
"

The dialog looks like this. You can (eventually) leave the
"Obtain An IP Address" at Automatic, after setting the lower
section to use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.

https://p6.zdusercontent.com/attachm...dj9d0jyv3fcxkx

Then open a Command Prompt and do some

nslookup www.sun.com

style of testing. Or you could run your diagnostic again if
you want.

Paul

Ok, but where / how do I set this???

Thanks


In WinXP:

Control Panels : Network Connections

Right-click the Wifi one, do "Properties".

Scroll to the bottom one, "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)"

Do Properties on that entry.

The dialog that results should have:

Obtain an IP address automatically

Obtain DNS server address automatically

You can set the lower (DNS) one to manual operation
and enter the Google 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 in the lines
down there. The reason there are two of them, is if
one fails or is unreachable (it is rebooting), the
other can be used by your OS.

Paul

In message ,
writes:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:28:18 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:
[]
Don't trash what's on that drive for some while yet!

Before I do, I have a program that will extract all the drivers. Then

There's more there than just drivers! I'd at least image it.

again, I may just leave it installed. The only problem is that it came
with AVG anti virus. I hate that damn thing and cant see how to disable
it. It keeps popping up annoying messages and its causing XP to take
literally 3 to 4 minutes to boot up.

(I think mine does anyway!) Revo _might_ help, but also I _think_ that
AVG might be one of the companies that actually offer a removal tool of
their own. Google "AVG removal tool", and other similar phrases. (Make
sure you trust any source though: ideally direct from AVG. Maybe someone
here can give a pointer - possibly via Wayback.)
[]
(I don't know the T43, but on a lot of laptops it _is_ a separate card -
follow the wires from the aerial [usually just bare wires draped around
the screen] to find it. There are probably YouTube dismantling guides -
there are for a lot of machines. It's often a card about an inch by an
inch and a half.)

There is no aerial

There is: it won't work without one! However, it's often just some wires
draped around under the plastic - often around the screen. These wires -
which _are_ the aerial - are often connected to the wifi card by little
gold-plated plugs/sockets.
[]
This is the log file which I was able to link to from IE.
[]
info IrDA protocol is not found in Winsock catalog.
I _think_ that's to do with infrared communications.
~[]
info Using home Internet connection
Network adapter identification

info Network connection: Name=Wireless Network Connection,
Device=11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter II, MediaType=LAN,
SubMediaType=WIRELESS
So it found it, as that.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Capital flows toward lower costs like a river to lowest ground.
"MJ", 2015-12-05

On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 17:56:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 11:11:44 -0400, Paul wrote:

wrote:

The server name or address could not be resolved
error Could not make an HTTP connection.
error Could not make an HTTPS connection.
error Could not make an FTP connection.
DNS problem ?

You could try setting the DNS address to use Google DNS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Public_DNS

"Google Public DNS operates recursive name servers for public
use at the following IP addresses:

8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 for IPv4 service --- Use these

2001:4860:4860::8888 and 2001:4860:4860::8844 for IPv6 access.

The addresses are mapped to the nearest operational
server by anycast routing.
"

The dialog looks like this. You can (eventually) leave the
"Obtain An IP Address" at Automatic, after setting the lower
section to use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.

https://p6.zdusercontent.com/attachm...dj9d0jyv3fcxkx

Then open a Command Prompt and do some

nslookup www.sun.com

style of testing. Or you could run your diagnostic again if
you want.

Paul

Ok, but where / how do I set this???

Thanks


In WinXP:

Control Panels : Network Connections

Right-click the Wifi one, do "Properties".

Scroll to the bottom one, "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)"

Do Properties on that entry.

The dialog that results should have:

Obtain an IP address automatically

Obtain DNS server address automatically

You can set the lower (DNS) one to manual operation
and enter the Google 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 in the lines
down there. The reason there are two of them, is if
one fails or is unreachable (it is rebooting), the
other can be used by your OS.

Paul

Ok, thanks.
I did this, but I wont know if it works till I get somewhere that has
WIFI again.



In Device Manager,
Under Network Adaptors

There is the WIFI card called
11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adaptor II

There is also a thing called
Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Mobile Connection.

What the heck is that second one for (Intel.....)

ALSO

There is a thing called Infrared Devices
IBM Thinkpad Fast Infrared Port.

What does that do?

This T43 has this stuff I dont recall my old T43 having. It also has a
fingerprint reader, which is something I dont see a need for, since no
one uses my computers except me. I'd disable that is I knew how, so it
dont keep asking me to set it up.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 23:20:36 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message ,
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:28:18 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
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Don't trash what's on that drive for some while yet!

Before I do, I have a program that will extract all the drivers. Then

There's more there than just drivers! I'd at least image it.

Even if I dont reinstall it, I'd like to image it, but what can I use
that FREE? Not Macrium, I never could figure that thing out.

I used to use Norton Ghost for windows3.x or was it for Win95/98. I
probably still have that program, but I dont think it works for XP.

My other alternative is to boot from Puppy Linux and just copy the whole
HDD to a flash drive (which is how I normally do backups of the OS on
all computers). My other data I just copy directly to external drives.


again, I may just leave it installed. The only problem is that it came
with AVG anti virus. I hate that damn thing and cant see how to disable
it. It keeps popping up annoying messages and its causing XP to take
literally 3 to 4 minutes to boot up.

(I think mine does anyway!) Revo _might_ help, but also I _think_ that
AVG might be one of the companies that actually offer a removal tool of
their own. Google "AVG removal tool", and other similar phrases. (Make
sure you trust any source though: ideally direct from AVG. Maybe someone
here can give a pointer - possibly via Wayback.)
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I'll have to look for something to remove it.

(I don't know the T43, but on a lot of laptops it _is_ a separate card -
follow the wires from the aerial [usually just bare wires draped around
the screen] to find it. There are probably YouTube dismantling guides -
there are for a lot of machines. It's often a card about an inch by an
inch and a half.)

There is no aerial

There is: it won't work without one! However, it's often just some wires
draped around under the plastic - often around the screen. These wires -
which _are_ the aerial - are often connected to the wifi card by little
gold-plated plugs/sockets.
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The WIFI cards must be on the bottom. I have the keyboard removed from
my dead T43 and I dont see anything under there that appears to be a
card, but I am not sure what I am looking for either.

This is the log file which I was able to link to from IE.
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info IrDA protocol is not found in Winsock catalog.
I _think_ that's to do with infrared communications.
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info Using home Internet connection
Network adapter identification

info Network connection: Name=Wireless Network Connection,
Device=11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter II, MediaType=LAN,
SubMediaType=WIRELESS
So it found it, as that.
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The wifi card is in the mini pci slot under the left wrist rest as shown on
pages 98-99 of the manual.
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub...df/39t6193.pdf
4.366 kb.

In Device Manager,
Under Network Adaptors

There is the WIFI card called
11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adaptor II
That's the wifi card.

There is also a thing called
Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Mobile Connection.
What the heck is that second one for (Intel.....)
That's the cat5 ethernet card.

There is a thing called Infrared Devices
IBM Thinkpad Fast Infrared Port.
Old technology. It was supposed to have been used for printers and
other peripherals. I only know of one person that actually used it.
There was a software hack for it so that you could use it to remote control
an IR TV.

This T43 has this stuff I dont recall my old T43 having. It also has a
fingerprint reader, which is something I dont see a need for, since no
one uses my computers except me. I'd disable that is I knew how, so it
dont keep asking me to set it up.
Another old technology. Disable it in device manager.

Your comp should also have Bluetooth. I've never found a _practical_ use for
that either and disabled it in device manager.

Also, these machines are prone to video cable breaking. It will look like
it's trying to boot but nothing shows on the screen.
Fortunately cables are available on ebay for $15.

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On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 23:20:36 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
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In message ,
writes:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:28:18 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:
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Don't trash what's on that drive for some while yet!
Before I do, I have a program that will extract all the drivers. Then
There's more there than just drivers! I'd at least image it.

Even if I dont reinstall it, I'd like to image it, but what can I use
that FREE? Not Macrium, I never could figure that thing out.


These are film strips I made for using Macrium.

https://s22.postimg.org/gxz3fdbch/Macrium6_Backup.gif

https://s9.postimg.org/6mko7k7m5/Macrium_Restore_CD.gif

That site no longer accepts images that big, so I can't
make any more film strips. In Firefox, click to zoom in
or zoom out.

I didn't make a film strip for installing the software.
The stub downloader is the green button on the upper right.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

The main software is maybe 40MB, while the WinPE package for
making a boot CD can be several hundred megabytes. This
is not a package to download over a dialup modem. There will
be the two download files - Macrium will process the WinPE file
before storing it for later. The number of bytes downloaded
won't be exactly the same as the file stored on disk (because
of compression or sometbing). It's possible the WinPE comes from
Microsoft, and they process it for their own purposes.

When you start the program for the first time, it will offer to
make an emergency boot CD, and that's handy for
restoring to a brand new (empty) internal hard drive.
I like to have each machine make its own emergency CD,
then keep it in the stack of DVDs next to the computer.

You can do both backup and restore with the CD, so the C:
OS partition doesn't have to be functional to use it. The
CD is quite capable of getting the job done.

Paul

On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 01:20:52 -0400, Paul wrote:

These are film strips I made for using Macrium.

https://s22.postimg.org/gxz3fdbch/Macrium6_Backup.gif

https://s9.postimg.org/6mko7k7m5/Macrium_Restore_CD.gif

Nice job on these!!!!

On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 17:56:10 -0400, Paul wrote:

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On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 11:11:44 -0400, Paul wrote:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Public_DNS

"Google Public DNS operates recursive name servers for public
use at the following IP addresses:

8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 for IPv4 service --- Use these

2001:4860:4860::8888 and 2001:4860:4860::8844 for IPv6 access.

The addresses are mapped to the nearest operational
server by anycast routing.
"

The dialog looks like this. You can (eventually) leave the
"Obtain An IP Address" at Automatic, after setting the lower
section to use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.

https://p6.zdusercontent.com/attachm...dj9d0jyv3fcxkx

Then open a Command Prompt and do some

nslookup www.sun.com

style of testing. Or you could run your diagnostic again if
you want.

Paul

Ok, but where / how do I set this???

Thanks


In WinXP:

Control Panels : Network Connections

Right-click the Wifi one, do "Properties".

Scroll to the bottom one, "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)"

Do Properties on that entry.

The dialog that results should have:

Obtain an IP address automatically

Obtain DNS server address automatically

You can set the lower (DNS) one to manual operation
and enter the Google 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 in the lines
down there. The reason there are two of them, is if
one fails or is unreachable (it is rebooting), the
other can be used by your OS.

Paul

Ok, I did all of this. I went to a WIFI place and now it shows a list of
all the area servers. I connected to the nearest WIFI, said I am
connected, and said my connection is VERY GOOD (4 bars).
Although I am connected, I can not connect to any websites. I tried
Firefox, IE, and Chrome. None of them will connect to the internet.

Here is the log

Last diagnostic run time: 09/14/16 03:42:28 Gateway Diagnostic
Gateway

info The following proxy configuration is being used by IE:
Automatically Detect Settingsisabled Automatic Configuration Script:
Proxy Server: Proxy Bypass list:
info This computer has the following default gateway entry(ies):
192.168.150.254
info This computer has the following IP address(es): 192.168.150.100
info The default gateway is in the same subnet as this computer
info The default gateway entry is a valid unicast address
info The default gateway address was resolved via ARP in 1 try(ies)
info The default gateway was reached via ICMP Ping in 1 try(ies)
warn Hostname www.microsoft.com could not be resolved (Error code
0x2afc). Could be either gateway or DNS issue
action Automated repair: Renew IP address
action Releasing the current IP address...
action Successfully released the current IP address
action Renewing the IP address...
action Successfully renewed the current IP address
info This computer has the following default gateway entry(ies):
192.168.150.254
info This computer has the following IP address(es): 192.168.150.100
info The default gateway is in the same subnet as this computer
info The default gateway entry is a valid unicast address
info The default gateway address was resolved via ARP in 1 try(ies)
info The default gateway was reached via ICMP Ping in 1 try(ies)
warn Hostname www.microsoft.com could not be resolved (Error code
0x2afc). Could be either gateway or DNS issue
action Automated repair: Reset network connection
action Disabling the network adapter
action Enabling the network adapter
info Network adapter successfully enabled
info This computer has the following default gateway entry(ies): 0.0.0.0
warn There is no default gateway entry
action Manual repair: Reboot modem
warn The repair attempt failed
info Redirecting user to support call



IP Layer Diagnostic
Corrupted IP routing table

info The default route is valid
info The loopback route is valid
info The local host route is valid
info The local subnet route is valid
Invalid ARP cache entries

action The ARP cache has been flushed



IP Configuration Diagnostic
Invalid IP address

info Valid IP address detected: 192.168.150.100



Wireless Diagnostic
Wireless - Service disabled

Wireless - User SSID

action User input required: Specify network name or SSID
Wireless - First time setup

info The Wireless Network name (SSID) to which the user would like to
connect = Hardees.
Wireless - Radio off

info Valid IP address detected: 192.168.150.100
Wireless - Out of range

Wireless - Hardware issue

Wireless - Novice user

Wireless - Ad-hoc network

Wireless - Less preferred

Wireless - 802.1x enabled

Wireless - Configuration mismatch

Wireless - Low SNR




WinSock Diagnostic
WinSock status

info IrDA protocol is not found in Winsock catalog.
info All base service provider entries are present in the Winsock
catalog.
info The Winsock Service provider chains are valid.
info Provider entry MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IP] passed the loopback
communication test.
info Provider entry MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IP] passed the loopback
communication test.
info Provider entry RSVP UDP Service Provider passed the loopback
communication test.
info Provider entry RSVP TCP Service Provider passed the loopback
communication test.
info Provider entry MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IPv6] passed the loopback
communication test.
info Provider entry MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IPv6] passed the loopback
communication test.
info Connectivity is valid for all Winsock service providers.



Network Adapter Diagnostic
Network location detection

info Using home Internet connection
Network adapter identification

info Network connection: Name=Wireless Network Connection,
Device=11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter II, MediaType=LAN,
SubMediaType=WIRELESS
info Network connection: Name=Local Area Connection, Device=Intel(R)
PRO/1000 MT Mobile Connection, MediaType=LAN, SubMediaType=LAN
info Both Ethernet and Wireless connections available, prompting user
for selection
action User input required: Select network connection
info Wireless connection selected
Network adapter status

info Network connection status: Connected



HTTP, HTTPS, FTP Diagnostic
HTTP, HTTPS, FTP connectivity

warn HTTP: Error 12007 connecting to www.microsoft.com: The server name
or address could not be resolved
warn FTP (Passive): Error 12007 connecting to ftp.microsoft.com: The
server name or address could not be resolved
warn HTTPS: Error 12007 connecting to www.microsoft.com: The server name
or address could not be resolved
error Could not make an HTTP connection.
error Could not make an HTTPS connection.
error Could not make an FTP connection.