What Windwos freeware adds powerful "phone Susan" & "vipw" commands?

John,

Currently your "benefit of the tribal archives" is to poisson it with
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Sounds fishy to me (-:.

:-p I had to google it to understand what you ment (poisson vs poison)

It one of those things that sometimes happens when English isn't your first
language and you're starting to get tired.

thinking I was helping the general good

Although my first thought was about Arlen himself, that also crossed my
mind - as a close second.

Sadly, I am going to continue to let the "archives" be "poissoned",

I don't think we have got any say in it I'm afraid. ...And I'm not so sure
it would be beneficial to usenet if we would have.

On the other hand, CLAX, which is moderated, still seems to do well.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

Arlen,

what is your astute recommendation for consolidating both the
passwd and data files as a single file accesssed from all Windows,
Linux, Android, and iOS machines on your local LAN?

https://thenextweb.com/apps/2013/10/...d-the-desktop/

and

https://www.cio.com/article/3168902/...ows-files.html

.... or something like that.

Why ? Because you are asking us to help you to make something {1} you do
not even have a clue about of even half of what is all is involved to make
it become true. And that simply won't work.

{1} combine outof already existing parts ? You where not even clear about
that I'm afraid ...

Regards,
Rudy Wieser








What we want now, is to have a *single* encrypted passwd file for the LAN.

Question, who is that "we" you are talking about ? Are you working in a
team or for a company ? Or are you perhaps royalty ? If nothing of that
all, whats wrong with saying "I" (as in you, Arlen) ?

Second: You are adding (more) requirements. And by it you are
dropping/invalidating the origional question *and all the already-gotten
answers to it*. How's that for wasting someones (the well-willing people
who responded to you - including myself) time ?

It would need to work with all machines & mobile devices on the LAN

Kiddo, you definitily have not thought about what you said there, or are
fully clueless. Mobile devices (unspecified!) ? I must than assume you
mean those iThingies (iOS) and googlephones (Android) too.

In that case, good luck with finding either single executable which will
work the same on both windows and other OSes, or with finding a single idea
implemented for all of them. :-D

That requires some kind of central "server".
....
Perhaps that's the native SMB server inherent in Windows?
....
Or perhaps that's some other server, e.g., ftp, or http?

You already have ideas, go google them ! You might even find some other
possibilities too (in other words: do not expect us to do your work for
you).

And by the way: good luck with finding something that runs iOS that will
talk SMB. And there is a good chance it will not even run FTP nativily
either.

Now that we have the original tasks both successfully working
perfectly on the first pass ...

So, you expect us to do all the "will it work?" checking for you too ? If
so, whats than left for you to do ?

... on any given Windows machine

And what about all those mobile devices ? Don't expect to find Windows
there.

And thats *again* ignoring the differences between the versions of Windows,
which has been pointed out to you to exist even between the versions of the
OS related to the newsgroups you posted your message in.














"Arlen Holder" wrote in message
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Let's stop wasting everyone's time playing silly semantic games.
Let's instead, move the technical ball forward.

What we want now, is to have a *single* encrypted passwd file for the LAN.
It would need to work with all machines & mobile devices on the LAN.

That requires some kind of central "server".

Perhaps that's the native SMB server inherent in Windows?
\\server\share\path\file.ext

Or perhaps that's some other server, e.g., ftp, or http?
http://192.168.1.10/path/file.htm

What do you think?

Now that we have the original tasks both successfully working perfectly on
the first pass on any given Windows machine, what is your astute
recommendation for consolidating both the passwd and data files as a
single
file accesssed from all Windows, Linux, Android, and iOS machines on your
local LAN?

In article , R.Wieser
wrote:

That requires some kind of central "server".
...
Perhaps that's the native SMB server inherent in Windows?
...
Or perhaps that's some other server, e.g., ftp, or http?

You already have ideas, go google them ! You might even find some other
possibilities too (in other words: do not expect us to do your work for
you).

And by the way: good luck with finding something that runs iOS that will
talk SMB. And there is a good chance it will not even run FTP nativily
either.

there are numerous ftp and smb apps for ios, either server or client,
as well as many other protocols.

where he needs luck is in getting his convoluted method to work
anywhere near as well as an existing password manager, or as secure.

On 7 Jul 2018 14:38:54 GMT, R.Wieser wrote:

https://www.cio.com/article/3168902/...ows-files.html

Thanks for that list of file-sharing apps between the operating systems.

None of the apps even comes remotely close to solving the stated networking
problem (since they all *copy* the file), but the first 3 of the 4 on that
list are still *nice to have* since they help the user copy files over WiFi
on their local network.

1. Send Anywhere (it *copies* the file, which isn't the question)
2. Feem v4 (it copies the file, which isn't the question)
3. Instashare (it copies the file, which isn't the question)
4. PushBullet (same, but this one requires registration)
https://www.cio.com/article/3168902/mobile-apps/4-apps-to-share-ios-android-and-windows-files.html

BTW, even though these don't even come close to solving the stated problem,
these apps are *nice* for "copying" files between devices though!

https://thenextweb.com/apps/2013/10/...d-the-desktop/

Thanks for that list of payware password managers.

Unfortunately, this list is even worse than the prior list
in that not one of those stores the password file on the LAN.

Summary:
1. Dashlane (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
2. RoboForm (shill to rent more than 10 passwords off the cloud)
3. mSecure (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
4. 1Password (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
5. LastPass (shill to rent your passwords after the 2-week trial period)
https://thenextweb.com/apps/2013/10/06/10-of-the-best-multi-platform-password-managers-for-ios-android-and-the-desktop/

It's just not anywhere in the problem set to store any of your private
data, particularly passwords, on the cloud.

What might work though, is to set up a "local cloud", and then see if the
password managers can work with that local cloud (but that's a lot more
effort to set up since server protocols are likely involved).

In summary, neither list even remotedly came close to solving the problem,
but while the second list was nothing but cloud shills, the first list does
seem, at least upon first inspection, to be worth checking out to solve a
*different* problem (which is cross-platform sharing of files).

thanks!

In article , Arlen Holder
wrote:


https://thenextweb.com/apps/2013/10/...atform-passwor
d-managers-for-ios-android-and-the-desktop/

Thanks for that list of payware password managers.

Unfortunately, this list is even worse than the prior list
in that not one of those stores the password file on the LAN.

false, and that's a five year old article that is very out of date.

there are several password managers that can store locally and not in
the cloud, including ones on that list at the time that article was
written.

in other words, you once again failed.

On 7 Jul 2018 13:32:27 GMT, R.Wieser wrote:

I don't think we have got any say in it I'm afraid. ...And I'm not so sure
it would be beneficial to usenet if we would have.

Did you see my latest Windows apnote on the efficient shutdown mechanism?
Start Run slideshut {Enter}

What did you think of it?
(HINT: You'll see that tutorial nowhere else on the net, but here.)

On 7 Jul 2018 14:52:28 GMT, nospam wrote:

there are numerous ftp and smb apps for ios, either server or client,
as well as many other protocols.

As you know, I have ftp working well (and have done so, for years).
How to mount the entire mobile device file system on desktops
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/comp.mobile.ipad/ix8xgTcexAY/dlY4nLMfAgAJ

In fact, you are well aware that I (long ago) already have seamless ftp set
up between all my devices, such that you already complained (long ago) that
I was "spying" on all the devices connected to my LAN, since, by default, I
can 'see' the entire visible file systems of all the devices that connect
to the LAN.

As you know, Windows, Linux, Android, and to a limited extent, iOS, all
"respect" the ftp protocol such that the file browsers open up the entire
visible file system on the devices, just as if they were local to the
desktop - s long as the device is running a suitable FTP server.

As you know, the free FTP server I've found most useful on Android is:
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/be.ppareit.swiftp_free/

And, as you know, it's far more restricted on the Orwellian iOS systems
(where entire threads are devoted to getting around those restrictions).

As for SMB, without rooting, as you are well aware, and as Frank Slootweg
can attest to, SMB not better than FTP access if you don't root the device.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/6PQmYWSk34I/Dk4cGwEvCQAJ

where he needs luck is in getting his convoluted method to work
anywhere near as well as an existing password manager, or as secure.

You don't have a solution for three reasons:
a. You have no technical expertise (you just punch buttons),
b. You just guess (scoring worse than the monkey does0, and
c. You have never posted with helpful intent in your entire life.

Meanwhile, I almost always (if not always) solve *every* problem set I pose
to the newsgroups (thousands upon thousands of them, in fact).

This problem set is far too difficult for someone like nospam to help
because it requires meaningful comprehension of the stated problem set.

On 7 Jul 2018 17:18:25 GMT, nospam wrote:

in other words, you once again failed.

Hi nospam,
I've known you for a long time.

You don't ever have a solution top any problem for three reasons:
a. You have no technical expertise (you just punch buttons),
b. You just guess (scoring worse than the monkey does), and
c. You have never posted with helpful intent in your entire life.

In article , Arlen Holder
wrote:

(HINT: You'll see that tutorial nowhere else on the net, but here.)

for very good reasons.

In article , Arlen Holder
wrote:

there are numerous ftp and smb apps for ios, either server or client,
as well as many other protocols.

As you know, I have ftp working well (and have done so, for years).

you might think you do, but you do not.

what you have is an incredibly clumsy and convoluted solution requiring
numerous steps that are not needed. worse, you refuse to learn from
others to improve upon it.

On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 16:55:00 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder
wrote:

Thanks for that list of payware password managers.

Unfortunately, this list is even worse than the prior list
in that not one of those stores the password file on the LAN.

Summary:
1. Dashlane (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
2. RoboForm (shill to rent more than 10 passwords off the cloud)
3. mSecure (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
4. 1Password (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
5. LastPass (shill to rent your passwords after the 2-week trial period)

I don't know about the others, but Roboform will happily store its
encrypted password file anywhere you want, including on a local drive, a
networked drive, and even a cloud drive. The default is a local drive.

I have no idea what you're trying to say above, when you write "shill to
rent more than 10 passwords off the cloud".

What I *don't* know, because I don't have a need for it, is whether two
or more PCs can point their Roboform instance to the *same* LAN-based
encrypted file.

In article , Char Jackson
wrote:

Thanks for that list of payware password managers.

Unfortunately, this list is even worse than the prior list
in that not one of those stores the password file on the LAN.

Summary:
1. Dashlane (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
2. RoboForm (shill to rent more than 10 passwords off the cloud)
3. mSecure (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
4. 1Password (shill to rent your passwords off the cloud)
5. LastPass (shill to rent your passwords after the 2-week trial period)

I don't know about the others, but Roboform will happily store its
encrypted password file anywhere you want, including on a local drive, a
networked drive, and even a cloud drive. The default is a local drive.

1password, definitely can store locally, and both dashlane and msecure
say they do on their website (haven't used either of those).

I have no idea what you're trying to say above, when you write "shill to
rent more than 10 passwords off the cloud".

he doesn't either.

What I *don't* know, because I don't have a need for it, is whether two
or more PCs can point their Roboform instance to the *same* LAN-based
encrypted file.

1password can sync over wifi simply by enabling the option.

msecure looks like it can also do that:
https://assets.msecure.com/websites/...641/Choose-Syn
c-Method.png

dunno about the others.

On 7 Jul 2018 19:25:09 GMT, nospam wrote:

I have no idea what you're trying to say above, when you write "shill to
rent more than 10 passwords off the cloud".

he doesn't either.

Yet again, nospam, you *prove you're an utter moron!*

a. You just guess (where your record, nospam, is worse than the monkey's).
b. Because ... you know nothing

The reference you failed to read clearly says, verbatim:
"Beyond the desktop, it also offers native apps for iOS and Android
devices. If you¢re a free user of RoboForm, your auto-logins and password
entries will be limited to 10 items. Naturally, RoboForm Everywhere unlocks
this restriction and costs (currently) $9.95 per year."

Only fools like you, nospam the troll, would fall for that style shill.

On 7 Jul 2018 18:57:55 GMT, Char Jackson wrote:

I don't know about the others, but Roboform will happily store its
encrypted password file anywhere you want, including on a local drive, a
networked drive, and even a cloud drive. The default is a local drive.

This is what the reference says, verbatim:

"If you¢re a free user of RoboForm, your auto-logins and password entries
will be limited to 10 items. Naturally, RoboForm Everywhere unlocks this
restriction and costs (currently) $9.95 per year."

What fool, besides the moronic troll nospam, wants that?

On 7 Jul 2018 17:28:03 GMT, nospam wrote:

for very good reasons.

Says the nospam troll who has never once done anything but punch buttons
that the Apple MARKETING team fed him.