Buying a new PC

micky wrote:


The one interesting thing: The Settings / Update screen at one point
said Getting ready 100%

But when I looked a little later, it said
Getting ready 70%

Ah, so you like their little "Getting Ready" joke ???

That's a test to see if you're awake or not.

"Getting ready 170%" , because math is tough.

Paul

"Chris" wrote

| A bit judgemental, aren't we?
|

Old news. Read Frank's comment and my followup.
Then you can *judge* for yourself.

"micky" wrote

| I did complain about Microcenter but I sure like having them here. I
| hope they dont' close like their predecessors. I don't buy much but
| they have it and not expensive afaict. Plus I got a battery pack backup
| at a really good sale price and iirc they gave me a cable for some
| reaosn.
|

Yes. Can't beat 'em for prices. They charged me $10
for an HDMI cable that's something like $22-35 at
Staples. I've come to think of Staples and Best Buy,
which used to be good, as convenience stores: If you're
willing to pay through the nose because you need a
USB stick or cable right now, they might have what you
need. Otherwise, their prices and selection are both much
worse than they used to be. Not much better than going
to CVS. And both have hit me with bait-and-switch scams,
having no stock of lower priced items that are displayed
on the shelf. Then I go to MC and they have a crateful
of that item. Now, if I can find an undented one...

In article , Mayayana
wrote:

| I did complain about Microcenter but I sure like having them here. I
| hope they dont' close like their predecessors. I don't buy much but
| they have it and not expensive afaict. Plus I got a battery pack backup
| at a really good sale price and iirc they gave me a cable for some
| reaosn.
|

Yes. Can't beat 'em for prices.

oh yes they can.

They charged me $10
for an HDMI cable that's something like $22-35 at
Staples.

staples has hdmi cables for $7.50
https://www.staples.com/32AWG-High-S...eneric/product
_2504576

monoprice has a 6 foot hdmi cable for $3.90. shorter lengths are
slightly cheaper, although not significantly so.
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=3992

$8 at best buy:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dynex-6...able-black/640
5508.p?skuId=6405508

on the other hand, best buy has one for $1800 (no typo):
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/audioqu...speed-hdmi-cab
le-dark-gray-blue/2383319.p

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 20 Jun 2020 16:31:11 -0000 (UTC),
Chris wrote:

Mayayana wrote:
"Rene Lamontagne" wrote

| I routinely have about 250-350 tabs open in Firefox, arranged into
windows
| by customer and project, and I haven't seen any slowdowns or UI issues
| since I bumped the RAM to 64GB. Even when the number of open tabs climbs
| above 400, the most RAM Firefox has used is about 14-16GB. That's
heavily
| site dependent, of course.
|
|
| I guess having sufficient memory as in your case really makes more tabs
| viable, But with only 4 or 8 GB it would be best to hold the number of
| open tabs to a reasonable level.
|

I think the trick is just not to live with someone like
that. They're the people who leave the sink full
of dishes, the driveway full of wrenches, coffee cups
in their car back seat, and a dried paintbrush on
the kitchen table from that little odd job they did
last month.

A bit judgemental, aren't we?

Speaking for myself, I live alone and wash all the dishes, even if not
immediately. My tools all go where they're suposed to be. I don't drink
coffee but I have one water bottle in the car, usually almost full, no
dries paintbrushes around.

But I have tabs open because I want to read them again or more closely
or refer to them.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 20 Jun 2020 12:42:31 -0400, Paul
wrote:

micky wrote:


The one interesting thing: The Settings / Update screen at one point
said Getting ready 100%

But when I looked a little later, it said
Getting ready 70%

Ah, so you like their little "Getting Ready" joke ???

Is it really?

I could believe it because Eudora has a couple joke lines in it.

The button to look at the headers is called Blah..Blah..Blah.

And there are one or two others I can't remember.

That's a test to see if you're awake or not.

"Getting ready 170%" , because math is tough.

Paul

Turn's it called "Getting things ready" or maybe "We're getting things
ready"

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...0b0b246?auth=1

I found stuck at that step, but I didn't find anything about going
backwards.

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 12:56:57 -0400, Mayayana wrote:

"Char Jackson" wrote

|Only one window open at a time. If I click on a link in the open
|window it opens in a new tab.
|
| I stopped single-tasking when I left the Commodore64 and moved to the
| Commodore Amiga back in the mid 80's. I'm not about to go back to it now.
|

But you said you have to have 64 GB of RAM because not
only are you not bothering to close unused windows.
You're also running multiple OSs in VMs.

I think that far from being a 'slob' you'll find he is simulating
multi-machine networks using the VMs on his workstation. Hence the
need for globs of memory.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 20 Jun 2020 13:10:48 -0400,
"Mayayana" wrote:

"micky" wrote

| I did complain about Microcenter but I sure like having them here. I
| hope they dont' close like their predecessors. I don't buy much but
| they have it and not expensive afaict. Plus I got a battery pack backup
| at a really good sale price and iirc they gave me a cable for some
| reaosn.
|

Yes. Can't beat 'em for prices. They charged me $10
for an HDMI cable that's something like $22-35 at
Staples. I've come to think of Staples and Best Buy,
which used to be good, as convenience stores: If you're
willing to pay through the nose because you need a
USB stick or cable right now, they might have what you
need. Otherwise, their prices and selection are both much
worse than they used to be. Not much better than going
to CVS. And both have hit me with bait-and-switch scams,
having no stock of lower priced items that are displayed
on the shelf. Then I go to MC and they have a crateful
of that item. Now, if I can find an undented one...

Well, I should say about my local Staples, in Pikesville (so my email
recipient will know which one). I was watching the ads for an
all-in-one printer and hesitating for some reason. Then one day the
price went from $100 to $150, in one jump, everywhere including online.
So I went to Staples and asked if I could still have it for $100 and the
manager said, Yes, if there's one in stock. And there was and they
charged 100.

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 20:00:29 +0100, mechanic wrote:

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 12:56:57 -0400, Mayayana wrote:

"Char Jackson" wrote

|Only one window open at a time. If I click on a link in the open
|window it opens in a new tab.
|
| I stopped single-tasking when I left the Commodore64 and moved to the
| Commodore Amiga back in the mid 80's. I'm not about to go back to it now.
|

But you said you have to have 64 GB of RAM because not
only are you not bothering to close unused windows.
You're also running multiple OSs in VMs.

I think that far from being a 'slob' you'll find he is simulating
multi-machine networks using the VMs on his workstation. Hence the
need for globs of memory.

Yes, exactly, and not as a hobby but for work. VMware Workstation Pro
excels at that, allowing me to create multiple network segments so that I
can demonstrate routing, managed switching, load balancing, firewalls,
proxies for manipulating traffic on the fly, web servers, and tons more.
It's all virtual, all self-contained on my laptop, with Internet access
optional.

I guess some people won't understand that, but that's OK. I probably don't
understand what they do/did for a living, either.

Mayayana wrote:
"Chris" wrote

| A bit judgemental, aren't we?

Old news. Read Frank's comment and my followup.
Then you can *judge* for yourself.

And he can read Char's response to mine and conclude that he (Chris)
was/is correct in his assesment.

On 20 Jun 2020 19:33:11 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Mayayana wrote:
"Chris" wrote

| A bit judgemental, aren't we?

Old news. Read Frank's comment and my followup.
Then you can *judge* for yourself.

And he can read Char's response to mine and conclude that he (Chris)
was/is correct in his assesment.

It's OK. Being judgmental is kind of a basic human behavior. I'm not
actually offended when people sometimes miss the mark.

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 06:44:47 -0400, micky wrote:

Well, the computer has continued to crash, mostly with the same 4
problems. Other times, it's frozen.

So I need a new one. I haven't had a new one since the PCJr.

Have you tried

alt.comp.hardware

and/or

alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt

?

--
s|b

micky wrote:

I found stuck at that step, but I didn't find anything about going
backwards.

Going backwards like that means

"We weren't as ready as we thought we were"
"Subtracting 30% for being tardy"

Paul

"mechanic" wrote

| I think that far from being a 'slob' you'll find he is simulating
| multi-machine networks using the VMs on his workstation. Hence the
| need for globs of memory.

And running with "250-300" Firefox windows open (A tab is
basically a window.) What I responded to was the criticism
of cleaning up after oneself, not leaving open unused windows,
as though that's an outdated way to operate.

I find it odd that so many
think it's "judgemental" to call that lazy and/or very
disorganized. I'm just calling it what it is. And it hardly
serves as good guidance to someone who's trying to
figure out what they need in a new computer, implying
that if you need functionality beyond a Commodore 64
then you'd do well to have 64 GB RAM.

There seem to be at least two camps on issues like this.
One is the people who "never leave until tomorrow what
can be done today." The other is the people who "never
waste time doing laundry if you can still see your bed."

Mayayana wrote:
"mechanic" wrote

| I think that far from being a 'slob' you'll find he is simulating
| multi-machine networks using the VMs on his workstation. Hence the
| need for globs of memory.

And running with "250-300" Firefox windows open (A tab is
basically a window.) What I responded to was the criticism
of cleaning up after oneself, not leaving open unused windows,
as though that's an outdated way to operate.

I find it odd that so many
think it's "judgemental" to call that lazy and/or very
disorganized. I'm just calling it what it is. And it hardly
serves as good guidance to someone who's trying to
figure out what they need in a new computer, implying
that if you need functionality beyond a Commodore 64
then you'd do well to have 64 GB RAM.

There seem to be at least two camps on issues like this.
One is the people who "never leave until tomorrow what
can be done today." The other is the people who "never
waste time doing laundry if you can still see your bed."

250 tabs is a lot of tabs.

If the Javascript is still running inside those, I wouldn't
expect the results to scale all that well.

For example, my machine with two cores, I doubt it could handle
that many tabs. I'd be seeing "busy cursor" before I got to 250.

And bigger machines don't always scale that well. Intel doesn't
mind if your 6 core machine, benches at 5 cores of performance
(5X that of a single core). I haven't seen any reports about
how the newer "grid connected" cores on the newer processors,
are doing with respect to scaling (so 28 cores gives 28x the
performance of a single core).

Paul