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Old July 22nd 14, 11:41 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
BillW50
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Default Cloning a HD to a SSD

In ,
Fokke Nauta typed:
On 22/07/2014 09:18, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 21/07/2014 23:35, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Fokke Nauta typed:
Hi all,

I have a pc with a C:-partition where Windows is installed (W7 32b,
partition size 97.7 GB). This is the 1st partition on the 1st HD,
which is bootable.
I recently purchased a pcie SSD-card (128 GB) which I want to use
for the Windows OS and which I want to be bootable. So I want to
replace the bootsector from the 1st HD and the content of the
current C:-partition to this new SSD, so I can use the current 1st
HD for other purposes. Ofcourse I can install Windows and all
applications from scratch on the new SSD, but I prefer to clone
the current Windows OS and the boot sector to this SSD. Can this
be done? Which application do you advice? Can I make this SSD
bootable? Thanks for your answers.

I don't know if you have cloned it or not yet (I did read the whole
thread). But I have been taking most of my hard drive machines and
converting them to SSD. Acronis 2011 failed (no surprise there),
XXClone failed (huge surprise there, as it never failed from HD to
HD yet). What worked flawlessly was Paragon Drive Copy. It got the
drive alignment and everything right. I used it on a number of XP,
7, and 8 machines so far. They have both free and pay versions.


Thanks.
Haven't cloned it yet.
I looked at Paragon drive copy but I saw only one version, Paragon
drive copy 14 Pro for $ 40. I couldn't find a free version of
Paragon drive copy. Drive alignment options are important, I assume.
Perhaps I'll purchase that.


I found Paragon Migrate OS to SSD 4.0 which costs only $ 20. I bought
it. That'll do the trick.


I was just looking at that one. Let me know how that one works out.
Paragon often changes their free programs around and Drive Copy no
longer comes with a free version anymore. Here is the current list of
freebies:

http://www.paragon-software.com/free/

Manuals for the rest of their products can be found he

http://www.paragon-software.com/downloads/manual.html

If there are any other Paragon products you are interested in, but can
wait. Giveawayoftheday.com has them like 6 times a year for free. But
you have to check daily because you can only install it that day for
free.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2


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  #17  
Old July 22nd 14, 11:55 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Fokke Nauta[_3_]
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Default Cloning a HD to a SSD

On 22/07/2014 12:41, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Fokke Nauta typed:
On 22/07/2014 09:18, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 21/07/2014 23:35, BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Fokke Nauta typed:
Hi all,

I have a pc with a C:-partition where Windows is installed (W7 32b,
partition size 97.7 GB). This is the 1st partition on the 1st HD,
which is bootable.
I recently purchased a pcie SSD-card (128 GB) which I want to use
for the Windows OS and which I want to be bootable. So I want to
replace the bootsector from the 1st HD and the content of the
current C:-partition to this new SSD, so I can use the current 1st
HD for other purposes. Ofcourse I can install Windows and all
applications from scratch on the new SSD, but I prefer to clone
the current Windows OS and the boot sector to this SSD. Can this
be done? Which application do you advice? Can I make this SSD
bootable? Thanks for your answers.

I don't know if you have cloned it or not yet (I did read the whole
thread). But I have been taking most of my hard drive machines and
converting them to SSD. Acronis 2011 failed (no surprise there),
XXClone failed (huge surprise there, as it never failed from HD to
HD yet). What worked flawlessly was Paragon Drive Copy. It got the
drive alignment and everything right. I used it on a number of XP,
7, and 8 machines so far. They have both free and pay versions.

Thanks.
Haven't cloned it yet.
I looked at Paragon drive copy but I saw only one version, Paragon
drive copy 14 Pro for $ 40. I couldn't find a free version of
Paragon drive copy. Drive alignment options are important, I assume.
Perhaps I'll purchase that.


I found Paragon Migrate OS to SSD 4.0 which costs only $ 20. I bought
it. That'll do the trick.


I was just looking at that one. Let me know how that one works out.


I will. Likely I'll start tomorrow.

Paragon often changes their free programs around and Drive Copy no
longer comes with a free version anymore.


Yes, I know. Unfortunately.
I'm a subscriber of PCPro magazine, and Paragon had some free
applications for subscribers a few years ago.

Here is the current list of
freebies:

http://www.paragon-software.com/free/


There are some handy utilities out there.

Manuals for the rest of their products can be found he

http://www.paragon-software.com/downloads/manual.html

If there are any other Paragon products you are interested in, but can
wait. Giveawayoftheday.com has them like 6 times a year for free. But
you have to check daily because you can only install it that day for
free.


I'll check it out!
I already have Paragon Partition manager 12 Pro. A good application.


  #18  
Old July 24th 14, 09:12 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Fokke Nauta[_3_]
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Default Cloning a HD to a SSD

On 22/07/2014 12:41, BillW50 wrote:

On 22/07/2014 09:18, Fokke Nauta wrote:


cut

I found Paragon Migrate OS to SSD 4.0 which costs only $ 20. I bought
it. That'll do the trick.


I was just looking at that one. Let me know how that one works out.


That will take some time, unfortunately.
I just found out that the cooling element of my (passive) video card is
too thick. There's no room for the PCIe SSD card. I have to order a slim
video card.
If you will I'll keep you posted with my experience of that application.

Paragon often changes their free programs around and Drive Copy no
longer comes with a free version anymore. Here is the current list of
freebies:

http://www.paragon-software.com/free/

Manuals for the rest of their products can be found he

http://www.paragon-software.com/downloads/manual.html

If there are any other Paragon products you are interested in, but can
wait. Giveawayoftheday.com has them like 6 times a year for free. But
you have to check daily because you can only install it that day for
free.


  #19  
Old July 24th 14, 09:21 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Fokke Nauta[_3_]
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Default Cloning a HD to a SSD

On 23/07/2014 07:54, Charlie+ wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:55:01 +0200, Fokke Nauta
wrote as underneath :

snip

I'll check it out!
I already have Paragon Partition manager 12 Pro. A good application.

I happened to d/l the free version yesterday:
The free version of Paragon 2014
http://www.paragon-software.com/home.../download.html
Choice of 32 or 64 bit.


But that's the Backup & Recovery 2014 Free Edition.
I was looking for the Paragon Drive Copy.
I don't know as to whether this application can do the job.

What they dont give you is any comparison chart between the free and the
payfor home version, and here is a comparison which they make almost
impossible to find in the website! Really well hidden!
http://www.paragon-software.com/feat...&p2=HDM14Suite


In this table it says it can't clone partitions.


  #20  
Old August 16th 14, 10:13 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Fokke Nauta[_3_]
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Default Cloning a HD to a SSD

On 24/07/2014 10:12, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 22/07/2014 12:41, BillW50 wrote:


On 22/07/2014 09:18, Fokke Nauta wrote:


cut

I found Paragon Migrate OS to SSD 4.0 which costs only $ 20. I bought
it. That'll do the trick.


I was just looking at that one. Let me know how that one works out.


That will take some time, unfortunately.
I just found out that the cooling element of my (passive) video card is
too thick. There's no room for the PCIe SSD card. I have to order a slim
video card.
If you will I'll keep you posted with my experience of that application.


cut

Unfortunately I won't be using this. Bought it for nothing.
It seemed that I needed to use a new motherboard (with a new processor),
due to incorrect PCIe slots. So I need to install W7 from scratch.

Fokke

  #21  
Old August 16th 14, 10:52 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
BillW50
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Default Cloning a HD to a SSD

On 8/16/2014 4:13 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 24/07/2014 10:12, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 22/07/2014 12:41, BillW50 wrote:


On 22/07/2014 09:18, Fokke Nauta wrote:


cut

I found Paragon Migrate OS to SSD 4.0 which costs only $ 20. I bought
it. That'll do the trick.

I was just looking at that one. Let me know how that one works out.


That will take some time, unfortunately.
I just found out that the cooling element of my (passive) video card is
too thick. There's no room for the PCIe SSD card. I have to order a slim
video card.
If you will I'll keep you posted with my experience of that application.


cut

Unfortunately I won't be using this. Bought it for nothing.
It seemed that I needed to use a new motherboard (with a new processor),
due to incorrect PCIe slots. So I need to install W7 from scratch.


Oh man! Why does it have to be a PCIe SSD card? Doesn't it have SATA ports?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2
  #22  
Old August 16th 14, 11:06 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Fokke Nauta[_3_]
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Default Cloning a HD to a SSD

On 16/08/2014 11:52, BillW50 wrote:
On 8/16/2014 4:13 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 24/07/2014 10:12, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 22/07/2014 12:41, BillW50 wrote:

On 22/07/2014 09:18, Fokke Nauta wrote:

cut

I found Paragon Migrate OS to SSD 4.0 which costs only $ 20. I bought
it. That'll do the trick.

I was just looking at that one. Let me know how that one works out.

That will take some time, unfortunately.
I just found out that the cooling element of my (passive) video card is
too thick. There's no room for the PCIe SSD card. I have to order a slim
video card.
If you will I'll keep you posted with my experience of that application.


cut

Unfortunately I won't be using this. Bought it for nothing.
It seemed that I needed to use a new motherboard (with a new processor),
due to incorrect PCIe slots. So I need to install W7 from scratch.


Oh man! Why does it have to be a PCIe SSD card? Doesn't it have SATA ports?


O yes, there are Sata ports. But it is a multimedia pc in a small
housing. There is only room for 2 hard disks and a cdrom drive, which
are already there. I wanted to isolate Windows, so the only option was a
SSD card, which has a PCIe slot. In addition, I needed a new TV tuner
card (with DVB-C) which also has a PCIe slot. My mobo had 2 PCIe slots,
so I ordered both cards. Only to find out that the PCIe slots of the
cards did not match the PCIe slots of my mobo. I did not know there are
different PCIe slots. The PCIe slots of my mobo were "1", whereas the
PCIe slots of the cards were "4". OK, I learned something new but it
will cost me a new mobo (with new processor) which has 3 PCIe "16" slots.

Fokke
  #23  
Old August 16th 14, 02:59 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
BillW50
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Posts: 5,556
Default Cloning a HD to a SSD

On 8/16/2014 5:06 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 16/08/2014 11:52, BillW50 wrote:
On 8/16/2014 4:13 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 24/07/2014 10:12, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 22/07/2014 12:41, BillW50 wrote:

On 22/07/2014 09:18, Fokke Nauta wrote:

cut

I found Paragon Migrate OS to SSD 4.0 which costs only $ 20. I bought
it. That'll do the trick.

I was just looking at that one. Let me know how that one works out.

That will take some time, unfortunately.
I just found out that the cooling element of my (passive) video card is
too thick. There's no room for the PCIe SSD card. I have to order a
slim
video card.
If you will I'll keep you posted with my experience of that
application.


cut

Unfortunately I won't be using this. Bought it for nothing.
It seemed that I needed to use a new motherboard (with a new processor),
due to incorrect PCIe slots. So I need to install W7 from scratch.


Oh man! Why does it have to be a PCIe SSD card? Doesn't it have SATA
ports?


O yes, there are Sata ports. But it is a multimedia pc in a small
housing. There is only room for 2 hard disks and a cdrom drive, which
are already there. I wanted to isolate Windows, so the only option was a
SSD card, which has a PCIe slot. In addition, I needed a new TV tuner
card (with DVB-C) which also has a PCIe slot. My mobo had 2 PCIe slots,
so I ordered both cards. Only to find out that the PCIe slots of the
cards did not match the PCIe slots of my mobo. I did not know there are
different PCIe slots. The PCIe slots of my mobo were "1", whereas the
PCIe slots of the cards were "4". OK, I learned something new but it
will cost me a new mobo (with new processor) which has 3 PCIe "16" slots.


Oh man, what a nightmare! I purchased a multimedia PC around 2000. It
cost like $900 and in about 8 months the electrolytic capacitors started
to fail. The manufacture didn't want anything to do with the warrantee
(Avatar). So it ended up in the junk pile.

I use laptops as for multimedia PCs nowadays. Although my TV tuners
doesn't have DVB-C here either (as we don't use them). But my Alienware
machines has a port that looks somewhat like DVB-C. Not sure what it is?
It is for cable or antenna wire. Although those Alienware tuner cards
are only analog and doesn't do me much good today.

Here is one picture of the connector (not a very good pic), it is the
second one from the left. They are very similar to F connectors, but
without threads and the outside diameter smaller. Something like the
outside of a RCA plug with the center pin of a F connector seems like it
would fit.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadm...thinten_03.jpg

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2
  #24  
Old August 16th 14, 06:16 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
pjp[_10_]
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Default Cloning a HD to a SSD

In article , says...

On 8/16/2014 5:06 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 16/08/2014 11:52, BillW50 wrote:
On 8/16/2014 4:13 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 24/07/2014 10:12, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 22/07/2014 12:41, BillW50 wrote:

On 22/07/2014 09:18, Fokke Nauta wrote:

cut

I found Paragon Migrate OS to SSD 4.0 which costs only $ 20. I bought
it. That'll do the trick.

I was just looking at that one. Let me know how that one works out.

That will take some time, unfortunately.
I just found out that the cooling element of my (passive) video card is
too thick. There's no room for the PCIe SSD card. I have to order a
slim
video card.
If you will I'll keep you posted with my experience of that
application.


cut

Unfortunately I won't be using this. Bought it for nothing.
It seemed that I needed to use a new motherboard (with a new processor),
due to incorrect PCIe slots. So I need to install W7 from scratch.

Oh man! Why does it have to be a PCIe SSD card? Doesn't it have SATA
ports?


O yes, there are Sata ports. But it is a multimedia pc in a small
housing. There is only room for 2 hard disks and a cdrom drive, which
are already there. I wanted to isolate Windows, so the only option was a
SSD card, which has a PCIe slot. In addition, I needed a new TV tuner
card (with DVB-C) which also has a PCIe slot. My mobo had 2 PCIe slots,
so I ordered both cards. Only to find out that the PCIe slots of the
cards did not match the PCIe slots of my mobo. I did not know there are
different PCIe slots. The PCIe slots of my mobo were "1", whereas the
PCIe slots of the cards were "4". OK, I learned something new but it
will cost me a new mobo (with new processor) which has 3 PCIe "16" slots.


Oh man, what a nightmare! I purchased a multimedia PC around 2000. It
cost like $900 and in about 8 months the electrolytic capacitors started
to fail. The manufacture didn't want anything to do with the warrantee
(Avatar). So it ended up in the junk pile.


I have a TV-Anywhere card has an connection like that. It's for the
built-in radio, an attenna.
  #25  
Old August 16th 14, 06:20 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
BillW50
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Default Cloning a HD to a SSD

On 8/16/2014 12:16 PM, pjp wrote:
In article , says...

On 8/16/2014 5:06 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 16/08/2014 11:52, BillW50 wrote:
On 8/16/2014 4:13 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 24/07/2014 10:12, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 22/07/2014 12:41, BillW50 wrote:

On 22/07/2014 09:18, Fokke Nauta wrote:

cut

I found Paragon Migrate OS to SSD 4.0 which costs only $ 20. I bought
it. That'll do the trick.

I was just looking at that one. Let me know how that one works out.

That will take some time, unfortunately.
I just found out that the cooling element of my (passive) video card is
too thick. There's no room for the PCIe SSD card. I have to order a
slim
video card.
If you will I'll keep you posted with my experience of that
application.


cut

Unfortunately I won't be using this. Bought it for nothing.
It seemed that I needed to use a new motherboard (with a new processor),
due to incorrect PCIe slots. So I need to install W7 from scratch.

Oh man! Why does it have to be a PCIe SSD card? Doesn't it have SATA
ports?

O yes, there are Sata ports. But it is a multimedia pc in a small
housing. There is only room for 2 hard disks and a cdrom drive, which
are already there. I wanted to isolate Windows, so the only option was a
SSD card, which has a PCIe slot. In addition, I needed a new TV tuner
card (with DVB-C) which also has a PCIe slot. My mobo had 2 PCIe slots,
so I ordered both cards. Only to find out that the PCIe slots of the
cards did not match the PCIe slots of my mobo. I did not know there are
different PCIe slots. The PCIe slots of my mobo were "1", whereas the
PCIe slots of the cards were "4". OK, I learned something new but it
will cost me a new mobo (with new processor) which has 3 PCIe "16" slots.


Oh man, what a nightmare! I purchased a multimedia PC around 2000. It
cost like $900 and in about 8 months the electrolytic capacitors started
to fail. The manufacture didn't want anything to do with the warrantee
(Avatar). So it ended up in the junk pile.


I have a TV-Anywhere card has an connection like that. It's for the
built-in radio, an attenna.


Sure, but where do you get a plug like that?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2
  #26  
Old August 16th 14, 11:36 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
pjp[_10_]
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Default Cloning a HD to a SSD

In article , says...

On 8/16/2014 12:16 PM, pjp wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 8/16/2014 5:06 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 16/08/2014 11:52, BillW50 wrote:
On 8/16/2014 4:13 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 24/07/2014 10:12, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 22/07/2014 12:41, BillW50 wrote:

On 22/07/2014 09:18, Fokke Nauta wrote:

cut

I found Paragon Migrate OS to SSD 4.0 which costs only $ 20. I bought
it. That'll do the trick.

I was just looking at that one. Let me know how that one works out.

That will take some time, unfortunately.
I just found out that the cooling element of my (passive) video card is
too thick. There's no room for the PCIe SSD card. I have to order a
slim
video card.
If you will I'll keep you posted with my experience of that
application.


cut

Unfortunately I won't be using this. Bought it for nothing.
It seemed that I needed to use a new motherboard (with a new processor),
due to incorrect PCIe slots. So I need to install W7 from scratch.

Oh man! Why does it have to be a PCIe SSD card? Doesn't it have SATA
ports?

O yes, there are Sata ports. But it is a multimedia pc in a small
housing. There is only room for 2 hard disks and a cdrom drive, which
are already there. I wanted to isolate Windows, so the only option was a
SSD card, which has a PCIe slot. In addition, I needed a new TV tuner
card (with DVB-C) which also has a PCIe slot. My mobo had 2 PCIe slots,
so I ordered both cards. Only to find out that the PCIe slots of the
cards did not match the PCIe slots of my mobo. I did not know there are
different PCIe slots. The PCIe slots of my mobo were "1", whereas the
PCIe slots of the cards were "4". OK, I learned something new but it
will cost me a new mobo (with new processor) which has 3 PCIe "16" slots.

Oh man, what a nightmare! I purchased a multimedia PC around 2000. It
cost like $900 and in about 8 months the electrolytic capacitors started


No idea where to find another of even what it's called. I still have
what came with it.
 




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