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  #31  
Old December 20th 15, 09:06 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Default Hiding 3035583 is a temporary solution

John Q. Public wrote:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , John Q. Public
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , John Q. Public
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , John Q. Public
writes:
Paul wrote:
[]
There is a bug in Windows Update (wuauserv), which runs inside
its SVCHOST at 100% CPU for 40 minutes. If you roll back Windows 7,
back to a time when it will need 200 updates to be up to date
again, Windows Update will exhibit the bug.
[]
After about eight hours, it finally appeared and this was after I
put
the laptop back to factory settings.

Was the CPU railed for that time, too? (Has anyone figured out what
it's
_doing_ when it is railed?)

43 minutes (Paul), 8 hours (JQP) - any advance on that [how long a
restored W7 machine takes to update (or is that to when it _starts_
updating?)]?

I think it's done on purpose to encourage you to go to Windows 10. I
had no such problems when I upgraded to 10 on the same machine.
Updates just flew right in.

From what Paul said (if I interpreted it right), it's related to the
number of updates (or to the square thereof, or worse) you've stored
up.
Since AIUI you can't prevent them on 10, in the Home version at least,
then I presume it _will_ be less of a (perceived!) problem, as you
won't
be able to store them up. (Unless someone's willing to do a
from-scratch
10 and tell us how long _that_ takes.)

This was with 7 set back to factory settings. I got up to SP1 and an
update to Windows Update and then it took 8 hours and 167 updates
finally appeared. So I stick with my theory that it's a ploy to get
you to go to 10.

I was agreeing with you - and saying that it might _look_ as if it's
quicker in 10, but only because you _can't_ delay updates in 10, so you
could never have that many to install.


Understood. I have another problem now. Windows Updates won't recognize
that I have installed Office 2013 which I've activated successfully. Is
there some way to upgrade my Windows Updates to Microsoft Updates. I've
googled my ass off and can't find anything. I've tried the MS Hot fix
and my Office doesn't offer updates on the account section.


See if you can make sense out of this article.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...gs-change.html

For Windows 7 frequently asked questions, you can try

site:sevenforums.com tutorials name_of_topic_goes_here

and that set of search terms will check whether a tutorial
on the topic, exists on Sevenforums or not.

The set of matched sites a

vistax64.com
sevenforums.com
eightforums.com
tenforums.com

and they each specialize in one OS. Tutorials are copied
from one site to another, for topics which are shared
by the OSes.

The guy who owns those sites, has one more site with
general stuff on it.

Paul
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  #32  
Old December 21st 15, 12:00 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
. . .winston[_2_]
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Default Hiding 3035583 is a temporary solution

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote on 12/20/2015 4:03 AM:
In message , . . .winston
writes:
[]
I learned a few months ago that over 500 KB have been re-released for


(kilobytes or updates? I presume the latter.)

Win7/Server8-12 with the same number...each one that requires metadata
changes will be offered again via WU regardless of being hidden.
- i.e. most go unnoticed since the original or prior release was
installed not hidden.

Are you saying that if an update _you have previously installed_ is
released with changes, it will be reinstalled automatically? Regardless
of what you have WU set to?


3

No, if the KB wasn't hidden previously and installed the push down of a
later KB with the same number goes unnoticed. The method of installation
doesn't change (auto or manual) unless the use or Windows resets the
AU/WU settings (both can occur depending upon the update and both have
happened in the past for just about every MSFT o/s released).



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  #33  
Old December 21st 15, 02:08 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
John Q. Public[_2_]
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Default Hiding 3035583 is a temporary solution

Paul wrote:
John Q. Public wrote:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , John Q. Public
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , John Q. Public
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , John Q. Public
writes:
Paul wrote:
[]
There is a bug in Windows Update (wuauserv), which runs inside
its SVCHOST at 100% CPU for 40 minutes. If you roll back
Windows 7,
back to a time when it will need 200 updates to be up to date
again, Windows Update will exhibit the bug.
[]
After about eight hours, it finally appeared and this was after
I put
the laptop back to factory settings.

Was the CPU railed for that time, too? (Has anyone figured out what
it's
_doing_ when it is railed?)

43 minutes (Paul), 8 hours (JQP) - any advance on that [how long a
restored W7 machine takes to update (or is that to when it _starts_
updating?)]?

I think it's done on purpose to encourage you to go to Windows 10. I
had no such problems when I upgraded to 10 on the same machine.
Updates just flew right in.

From what Paul said (if I interpreted it right), it's related to the
number of updates (or to the square thereof, or worse) you've
stored up.
Since AIUI you can't prevent them on 10, in the Home version at least,
then I presume it _will_ be less of a (perceived!) problem, as you
won't
be able to store them up. (Unless someone's willing to do a
from-scratch
10 and tell us how long _that_ takes.)

This was with 7 set back to factory settings. I got up to SP1 and an
update to Windows Update and then it took 8 hours and 167 updates
finally appeared. So I stick with my theory that it's a ploy to get
you to go to 10.

I was agreeing with you - and saying that it might _look_ as if it's
quicker in 10, but only because you _can't_ delay updates in 10, so you
could never have that many to install.


Understood. I have another problem now. Windows Updates won't
recognize that I have installed Office 2013 which I've activated
successfully. Is there some way to upgrade my Windows Updates to
Microsoft Updates. I've googled my ass off and can't find anything.
I've tried the MS Hot fix and my Office doesn't offer updates on the
account section.


See if you can make sense out of this article.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...gs-change.html


For Windows 7 frequently asked questions, you can try

site:sevenforums.com tutorials name_of_topic_goes_here

and that set of search terms will check whether a tutorial
on the topic, exists on Sevenforums or not.

The set of matched sites a

vistax64.com
sevenforums.com
eightforums.com
tenforums.com

and they each specialize in one OS. Tutorials are copied
from one site to another, for topics which are shared
by the OSes.

The guy who owns those sites, has one more site with
general stuff on it.

Paul


Thanks for the link. I reinstalled Windows and this time it's updating
everything as I type. The latest updates, 225 of them (all Windows,
Office was done before) have been installing now for four hours and
still has 24 updates to go. And that's without the optional updates.

Once done, I will make an image, buy an SSD, and restore the image to
the SSD. What a day!

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  #34  
Old December 21st 15, 02:10 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
John Q. Public[_2_]
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Default Hiding 3035583 is a temporary solution

Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , s|b
escribió:

I've been playing with Xubuntu for some
time now.


If you want something that looks more like Windows, and with which non-
techy Windows users will feel comfortable, take a look at Linux Mint
with the MATE desktop. You'll be blown away by how much better it runs
than Windows on the same hardware, and it'll happily run all the apps
you listed. You can also transfer your Ff and TB profiles without
issue.

http://www.linuxmint.com/


Windows 7 boot time with an SSD, 24 seconds.

Linux Mint Mate boot time with a SSD, 10 seconds.

Same machine, two different SSD drives.

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  #35  
Old December 25th 15, 07:15 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mike Tomlinson
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Default Hiding 3035583 is a temporary solution

En el artículo , Mike Tomlinson
escribió:

If you want something that looks more like Windows, and with which non-
techy Windows users will feel comfortable, take a look at Linux Mint
with the MATE desktop. You'll be blown away by how much better it runs
than Windows on the same hardware, and it'll happily run all the apps
you listed. You can also transfer your Ff and TB profiles without
issue.

http://www.linuxmint.com/


A review has just appeared on Ars Technica for those interested:

http://arstechnica.co.uk/information...2/review-mint-
17-3-may-be-the-best-linux-desktop-distro/

or http://tinyurl.com/nnbm5op

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