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If Windows Updates IsTurned Off, Can We Be Sure MS Can't Force Win 10 on us?



 
 
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Old December 17th 15, 10:19 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If Windows Updates IsTurned Off, Can We Be Sure MS Can't Force Win 10 on us?

All this crap MS is pulling is raising my level of Paranoia and
Anxiety.

DC
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Old December 18th 15, 02:18 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If Windows Updates IsTurned Off, Can We Be Sure MS Can't Force Win 10 on us?

En el artículo , Good Guy
escribió:

Microsoft is not forcing anything on anybody.


Open your eyes, idiot.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...-10-microsoft-
hits-new-low-with-upgrade-now-or-upgrade-tonight-pop-up

And stop posting in HTML. Usenet is a text medium. Prat.

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Old December 18th 15, 06:24 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If Windows Updates IsTurned Off, Can We Be Sure MS Can't ForceWin 10 on us?

On 12/17/2015 5:19 PM, wrote:
All this crap MS is pulling is raising my level of Paranoia and
Anxiety.

DC

Only if the P/C is not on a network!
(There are some other things, but each has it's limits.
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Old December 18th 15, 12:34 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If Windows Updates IsTurned Off, Can We Be Sure MS Can't Force Win 10 on us?

In article , Paul writes
wrote:
All this crap MS is pulling is raising my level of Paranoia and
Anxiety.
DC


Mine is switched off. I have no complaints.

I'm not actively engaged in warfare with the
Windows 10 install. It's an attempt to turn
a desktop into a SmartPhone, and as long
as you're comfortable with the privacy compromises
in your SmartPhone, this is no different.

On several occasions, the Win10 maintenance activities
have prevented me from using the machine as I wanted,
costing me lost time. So that does mean, for
demanding work, the Win10 boot drive just sits
on the shelf. While I can put extra effort into
"feeding and burping" Windows 10 before using it,
I don't intend on doing that as regular procedure.
I will reach for something that "just works" instead.

Paul

Tried W10 on a laptop and immediately noticed how much slower it was.
Just rolled back to 8.1 and am now slowly sorting out the resultant
glitches which weren't there before.
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Old December 18th 15, 01:48 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If Windows Updates IsTurned Off, Can We Be Sure MS Can't Force Win 10 on us?

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 12:34:53 +0000, bert wrote:

In article , Paul writes
wrote:
All this crap MS is pulling is raising my level of Paranoia and
Anxiety.
DC


Mine is switched off. I have no complaints.

I'm not actively engaged in warfare with the
Windows 10 install. It's an attempt to turn
a desktop into a SmartPhone, and as long
as you're comfortable with the privacy compromises
in your SmartPhone, this is no different.

On several occasions, the Win10 maintenance activities
have prevented me from using the machine as I wanted,
costing me lost time. So that does mean, for
demanding work, the Win10 boot drive just sits
on the shelf. While I can put extra effort into
"feeding and burping" Windows 10 before using it,
I don't intend on doing that as regular procedure.
I will reach for something that "just works" instead.

Paul

Tried W10 on a laptop and immediately noticed how much slower it was.
Just rolled back to 8.1 and am now slowly sorting out the resultant
glitches which weren't there before.


Instead of rolling back, it'd probably be faster and easier to just restore
the system image that you created before you rolled forward.

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Old December 18th 15, 03:17 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If Windows Updates IsTurned Off, Can We Be Sure MS Can't Force Win 10 on us?

Per Good Guy:

The fact of the matter is Windows 10 is the future of computing and if
you want to continue using Windows then sooner or later you will need to
upgrade or buy a new computer. this said, you can change the settings
how windows update is offered by changing the settings (in Windows
7/Windows 8.1) and you will have control over which updates are installed.


My experience has been that changing Windows Update settings is not
reliable.

I am borderline-obsessive about setting Windows Updates to
Notification-Only but I have gotten blindsided by forced updates at
least a half-dozen times. Somehow it gets flipped to allowing
automatic updates without the user doing anything.

I got dragged kicking and screaming into Windows 7 from XP.

Ditto Windows 8.1 on a few new PCs.

Hopefully I'll be dead before support for 8.1 is discontinued. If not,
I think I would have to revisit Linux - albeit without a lot of hope...
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Old December 18th 15, 03:18 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If Windows Updates IsTurned Off, Can We Be Sure MS Can't Force Win 10 on us?

Per Char Jackson:
Instead of rolling back, it'd probably be faster and easier to just restore
the system image that you created before you rolled forward.


Ooooooh!... that's mean.... -)
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Old December 19th 15, 09:47 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If Windows Updates IsTurned Off, Can We Be Sure MS Can't Force Win 10 on us?

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:17:07 -0500, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
My experience has been that changing Windows Update settings is not
reliable.

I am borderline-obsessive about setting Windows Updates to
Notification-Only but I have gotten blindsided by forced updates at
least a half-dozen times. Somehow it gets flipped to allowing
automatic updates without the user doing anything.



I believe certain updates do that.

After applying updates, I recommend checking the settings and of
course running GWX Control Panel.

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Old December 19th 15, 01:34 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If Windows Updates IsTurned Off, Can We Be Sure MS Can't ForceWin 10 on us?

Good Guy wrote:
The fact of the matter is Windows 10 is the future of computing and if
you want to continue using Windows then sooner or later you will need to
upgrade or buy a new computer.


I tried Windows 10. Yuck. I am learning Linux.

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Old December 19th 15, 03:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If Windows Updates IsTurned Off, Can We Be Sure MS Can't Force Win 10 on us?

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 04:47:07 -0500, Stan Brown
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:17:07 -0500, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
My experience has been that changing Windows Update settings is not
reliable.

I am borderline-obsessive about setting Windows Updates to
Notification-Only but I have gotten blindsided by forced updates at
least a half-dozen times. Somehow it gets flipped to allowing
automatic updates without the user doing anything.



I believe certain updates do that.

After applying updates, I recommend checking the settings and of
course running GWX Control Panel.


GWX doesn't work for me. The very first time I installed it, it worked -
but after that all I get is the process in Task Manager and nothing else. I
finally uninstalled it.

Tom

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Old December 19th 15, 03:42 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If Windows Updates IsTurned Off, Can We Be Sure MS Can't Force Win 10 on us?

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 14:34:57 +0100, "John Q. Public"
wrote:


I tried Windows 10. Yuck. I am learning Linux.




Your choice entirely, of course, but in my experience those who think
Window 10 is "yuck" are those who haven't taken the trouble to learn
it and learn how to organize its settings to their liking. And better
yet, who haven't taken the trouble to install a third-party utility
like Start10.

If you were to look at and use my computer, which runs Windows 10 and
Start10, you would likely have a hard time realizing that it wasn't
Windows 7.

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Old December 19th 15, 04:30 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default If Windows Updates IsTurned Off, Can We Be Sure MS Can't ForceWin 10 on us?

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 14:34:57 +0100, "John Q. Public"
wrote:


I tried Windows 10. Yuck. I am learning Linux.




Your choice entirely, of course, but in my experience those who think
Window 10 is "yuck" are those who haven't taken the trouble to learn
it and learn how to organize its settings to their liking. And better
yet, who haven't taken the trouble to install a third-party utility
like Start10.

If you were to look at and use my computer, which runs Windows 10 and
Start10, you would likely have a hard time realizing that it wasn't
Windows 7.


Until I went to the MS store. Looks aren't the problem. Windows 10 isn't
for all computers and the MS published minimum hardware is only if you
like 3 minute boot ups and a very slow machine. My Acer Aspire 7741G
can't handle it but updates said it would.

Out of curiosity, in what way do you think 10 is better than 7?

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