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"voluntary data theft" and Window$ installation
On 26/11/16 16:14, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Then users are NOT agreeing on anything, Your Honor! They just wanna install Windows 10, Your Honor! Your Honor, users are *tricked* to sign something dangerous when all they want is to get the operating system installed and working! The only users who might be misled are the ones who can't read, and they should be using iPads, not Windows. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within |
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"voluntary data theft" and Window$ installation
On 27/11/2016 12:31 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 26/11/16 16:14, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: Then users are NOT agreeing on anything, Your Honor! They just wanna install Windows 10, Your Honor! Your Honor, users are *tricked* to sign something dangerous when all they want is to get the operating system installed and working! The only users who might be misled are the ones who can't read, and they should be using iPads, not Windows. It's not very different from drunk driving, Your Honor! |
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"voluntary data theft"
On 27/11/2016 1:21 AM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote:
It is traditional to include some sort of text when replying. It's a setup to forge evidences, Your Honor! |
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"voluntary data theft"
On 2016-Nov-26 22:20, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 26/11/2016 1:28 AM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: Yes. They *voluntarily* opted not to read the terms and conditions. As was and is their choice. Keep in mind that no one is required to use any specific OS or programs. I only knew we could not have continued the installation of Win 10 procedure if we didn't click "YES" or "AGREE" in that button. That's all! Meow... There was a case years ago where the purchaser of a new machine did not choose the "I agree" option, and then fought to have the cost of Windows deducted from the computer's price, on the grounds that he had never agreed to have Windows included. I think he won, although Microsoft fought pretty hard to prevent the setting of a precedent. That was unusual, though. It was and is a lot more common to pay the Microsoft tax even when the first action after purchase is to format the hard disk and get rid of Windows. That's because it's too difficult to find a supplier who will agree to sell you a computer without Windows included. -- Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
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"voluntary data theft"
On 2016-11-26 7:03 PM, Peter Moylan wrote:
On 2016-Nov-26 22:20, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: On 26/11/2016 1:28 AM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: Yes. They *voluntarily* opted not to read the terms and conditions. As was and is their choice. Keep in mind that no one is required to use any specific OS or programs. I only knew we could not have continued the installation of Win 10 procedure if we didn't click "YES" or "AGREE" in that button. That's all! Meow... There was a case years ago where the purchaser of a new machine did not choose the "I agree" option, and then fought to have the cost of Windows deducted from the computer's price, on the grounds that he had never agreed to have Windows included. I think he won, although Microsoft fought pretty hard to prevent the setting of a precedent. That was unusual, though. It was and is a lot more common to pay the Microsoft tax even when the first action after purchase is to format the hard disk and get rid of Windows. That's because it's too difficult to find a supplier who will agree to sell you a computer without Windows included. https://system76.com/ is one such supplier. It will sell you a desktop with Linux properly configured for it provided you want to use IT rather than Windows. I imagine that they'd be willing to install no OS as well. -- Silver Slimer Fingerprint: e58428b2633833a3b0c9bb7e40819166642245b7 Gab.ai: @silverslimer |
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"voluntary data theft"
On 11/26/2016 at 8:28 PM, K Wills (Shill #3)'s prodigious digits fired off:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 02:07:38 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote: On 27/11/2016 1:21 AM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: It is traditional to include some sort of text when replying. It's a setup to forge evidences, Your Honor! Outside of your mental illness, I'm still not a judge. Let your psychiatrist know that you seem unable to accept this aspect of reality. Isn't it fun to reply to his nonsense? And have any of you Googled his name? -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Even if you are happy to see me, get that umbrella outta my butt!!! |
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"voluntary data theft"
Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2016-11-26 7:03 PM, Peter Moylan wrote: On 2016-Nov-26 22:20, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: On 26/11/2016 1:28 AM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: Yes. They *voluntarily* opted not to read the terms and conditions. As was and is their choice. Keep in mind that no one is required to use any specific OS or programs. I only knew we could not have continued the installation of Win 10 procedure if we didn't click "YES" or "AGREE" in that button. That's all! Meow... There was a case years ago where the purchaser of a new machine did not choose the "I agree" option, and then fought to have the cost of Windows deducted from the computer's price, on the grounds that he had never agreed to have Windows included. I think he won, although Microsoft fought pretty hard to prevent the setting of a precedent. That was unusual, though. It was and is a lot more common to pay the Microsoft tax even when the first action after purchase is to format the hard disk and get rid of Windows. That's because it's too difficult to find a supplier who will agree to sell you a computer without Windows included. https://system76.com/ is one such supplier. It will sell you a desktop with Linux properly configured for it provided you want to use IT rather than Windows. I imagine that they'd be willing to install no OS as well. Hell, it's easy to find one. Here ya go: http://www.cyberpowerpc.com They even knock $60 off of the price if you opt to receive only a formatted hard drive. -- John Corliss BS206. No ad, CD, commercial, cripple, demo, nag, pirated, share, spy, time-limited, trial or web wares for me please. I filter out posts originating from Google Groups (and recommend you do likewise) & block (can't see & won't reply to) posts from the nym-shifting troll calling itself "»Q«". |
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"voluntary data theft"
On 2016-11-27 12:37 AM, John Corliss wrote:
Silver Slimer wrote: On 2016-11-26 7:03 PM, Peter Moylan wrote: On 2016-Nov-26 22:20, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: On 26/11/2016 1:28 AM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: Yes. They *voluntarily* opted not to read the terms and conditions. As was and is their choice. Keep in mind that no one is required to use any specific OS or programs. I only knew we could not have continued the installation of Win 10 procedure if we didn't click "YES" or "AGREE" in that button. That's all! Meow... There was a case years ago where the purchaser of a new machine did not choose the "I agree" option, and then fought to have the cost of Windows deducted from the computer's price, on the grounds that he had never agreed to have Windows included. I think he won, although Microsoft fought pretty hard to prevent the setting of a precedent. That was unusual, though. It was and is a lot more common to pay the Microsoft tax even when the first action after purchase is to format the hard disk and get rid of Windows. That's because it's too difficult to find a supplier who will agree to sell you a computer without Windows included. https://system76.com/ is one such supplier. It will sell you a desktop with Linux properly configured for it provided you want to use IT rather than Windows. I imagine that they'd be willing to install no OS as well. Hell, it's easy to find one. Here ya go: http://www.cyberpowerpc.com They even knock $60 off of the price if you opt to receive only a formatted hard drive. But let's be honest: Windows is what a person who really wants a serious computing experience will install. Linux is what you use if your standards for software are low and you only intend to do the basics. For all of its flaws, Windows is by far the best platform you can install on a computer. -- Silver Slimer Fingerprint: e58428b2633833a3b0c9bb7e40819166642245b7 Gab.ai: @silverslimer |
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"voluntary data theft"
On 23/11/2016 7:13 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Does it make sense or not? Windows 10's installation procedure is a *SETUP*. Let's end this thread once and for all. |
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"voluntary data theft"
On 27/11/2016 15:51, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 23/11/2016 7:13 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: Let's end this thread once and for all. Then don't start anything crap again and don't cross-post to useless newsgroups because this won't end "once and for all" as you wish. Why are Chinese so stupid? What is wrong in their brain? Is it because they have Mongol face? -- With over 400 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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"voluntary data theft"
On 27.11.16 17:42, Good Guy wrote:
On 27/11/2016 15:51, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: On 23/11/2016 7:13 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: Let's end this thread once and for all. Then don't start anything crap again and don't cross-post to useless newsgroups because this won't end "once and for all" as you wish. Why are Chinese so stupid? What is wrong in their brain? Is it because they have Mongol face? This guy is a troll. wrestle wish a pig, an dhe will enjoy it, wile you get covered in mud. killfile and/or ignore him. |
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"voluntary data theft"
On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 08:50:11 -0600, "K Wills (Shill #3)"
wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 21:15:31 -0500, Ed Mullen wrote: On 11/26/2016 at 8:28 PM, K Wills (Shill #3)'s prodigious digits fired off: On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 02:07:38 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang" wrote: On 27/11/2016 1:21 AM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: It is traditional to include some sort of text when replying. It's a setup to forge evidences, Your Honor! Outside of your mental illness, I'm still not a judge. Let your psychiatrist know that you seem unable to accept this aspect of reality. Isn't it fun to reply to his nonsense? And have any of you Googled his name? I hadn't, but now I have. Mostly links are to his rants archived on Google. A few other sites as well. The guy is a genuine k00k. Did you see this one: https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/ Shill #2 -- Them™ Pay Section Disinformation Directorate Ministry of Information Antipodean Division |
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"voluntary data theft"
On 28/11/2016 12:59 AM, Sjouke Burry wrote:
This guy is a troll. wrestle wish a pig, an dhe will enjoy it, wile you get covered in mud. killfile and/or ignore him. Catch You Catch Me later... Card Captor Sakura OP 1 HD - Catch You, Catch Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI99Wjba8H4 |
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"voluntary data theft"
Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2016-11-27 12:37 AM, John Corliss wrote: Silver Slimer wrote: On 2016-11-26 7:03 PM, Peter Moylan wrote: On 2016-Nov-26 22:20, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: On 26/11/2016 1:28 AM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: Yes. They *voluntarily* opted not to read the terms and conditions. As was and is their choice. Keep in mind that no one is required to use any specific OS or programs. I only knew we could not have continued the installation of Win 10 procedure if we didn't click "YES" or "AGREE" in that button. That's all! Meow... There was a case years ago where the purchaser of a new machine did not choose the "I agree" option, and then fought to have the cost of Windows deducted from the computer's price, on the grounds that he had never agreed to have Windows included. I think he won, although Microsoft fought pretty hard to prevent the setting of a precedent. That was unusual, though. It was and is a lot more common to pay the Microsoft tax even when the first action after purchase is to format the hard disk and get rid of Windows. That's because it's too difficult to find a supplier who will agree to sell you a computer without Windows included. https://system76.com/ is one such supplier. It will sell you a desktop with Linux properly configured for it provided you want to use IT rather than Windows. I imagine that they'd be willing to install no OS as well. Hell, it's easy to find one. Here ya go: http://www.cyberpowerpc.com They even knock $60 off of the price if you opt to receive only a formatted hard drive. But let's be honest: Windows is what a person who really wants a serious computing experience will install. Linux is what you use if your standards for software are low and you only intend to do the basics. For all of its flaws, Windows is by far the best platform you can install on a computer. I don't have a dog in this fight. The only reason I replied was to show that it's easy to find a company which will sell you a computer without Windows pre-installed. -- John Corliss |
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voluntary data theft?
On 28/11/2016 6:00 PM, John Corliss wrote:
I don't have a dog in this fight. The only reason I replied was to show that it's easy to find a company which will sell you a computer without Windows pre-installed. We are buying the operating system function of Micro$oft Window$. We are NOT buying the remaining crap. And the only way to properly install WIndow$ the *operating system* is to click a few buttons that *disguised* themselves as digital evidences and legal documents. |
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