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  #1  
Old May 9th 18, 12:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Keith Nuttle
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Default Update cycle; KB41037211

This is the worst update yet that MS has put out.

My small tablet is stuck with over 10GB of storage space locked up in
the 1803 update that will not install. This was expected but not
appreciated as it always has problems updating. Since I decided to
wait, and am just know updating I suspect it is experiencing the same
problem with KB41037211 as my laptop.

My laptop CPU i7, 8GB ram, 1TB on the disk installed the main update,
with minimal problems, but took four restarts to get KB41037211
installed, It is running very slow. It would go through the update
restart and it would still show there was an update to install. After
trying last night and KB41037211 failing to install, I restarted several
more times this morning and it finally installed.

Some time to day I will have to try to update my desktop, it only has a
CPU i5, 8GB of memory and a 2TB of disk storage.

I pity the poor IT specialist in a large company if they are
experiencing the same thing. However thanks to MS they have job security.

What am I getting for all of the expenditure of time? 3D paint, Virtual
reality, and a couple of other "IMPROVEMENTS" which I never use. However
I am "real" excited about the change in the left panel of the Settings
screen.


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  #2  
Old May 9th 18, 01:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ed Cryer
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Default Update cycle; KB41037211

Keith Nuttle wrote:
This is the worst update yet that MS has put out.

My small tablet is stuck with over 10GB of storage space locked up in
the 1803 update that will not install.* This was expected but not
appreciated as it always has problems updating.* Since I decided to
wait, and am just know updating I suspect it is experiencing the same
problem with KB41037211 as my laptop.

My laptop CPU i7, 8GB ram, 1TB on the disk installed the main update,
with minimal problems, but took four restarts to get KB41037211
installed, It is running very slow.* It would go through the update
restart and it would still show there was an update to install.* After
trying last night and KB41037211 failing to install, I restarted several
more times this morning and it finally installed.

Some time to day I will have to try to update my desktop, it only has a
CPU i5, 8GB of memory and a 2TB of disk storage.

I pity the poor IT specialist in a large company if they are
experiencing the same thing.* However thanks to MS they have job security.

What am I getting for all of the expenditure of time?* 3D paint, Virtual
reality, and a couple of other "IMPROVEMENTS" which I never use. However
I am "real" excited about the change in the left panel of the Settings
screen.



I downloaded an iso of the 1803 update, and it ran like butter on all
desktops. I have yet to try it on my tablet. I probably won't, because I
recall that 1709 failed too, and it wouldn't use the 1TB of free space
on a portable HD I plugged in.

Your description of your desktop with "only" should cause no worries. At
least not if you use an iso for the job. That worked here on a desktop
with smaller figures than your "only".

Ed
  #3  
Old May 9th 18, 01:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Update cycle; KB41037211

Keith Nuttle wrote:
This is the worst update yet that MS has put out.

My small tablet is stuck with over 10GB of storage space locked up in
the 1803 update that will not install. This was expected but not
appreciated as it always has problems updating. Since I decided to
wait, and am just know updating I suspect it is experiencing the same
problem with KB41037211 as my laptop.

My laptop CPU i7, 8GB ram, 1TB on the disk installed the main update,
with minimal problems, but took four restarts to get KB41037211
installed, It is running very slow. It would go through the update
restart and it would still show there was an update to install. After
trying last night and KB41037211 failing to install, I restarted several
more times this morning and it finally installed.

Some time to day I will have to try to update my desktop, it only has a
CPU i5, 8GB of memory and a 2TB of disk storage.

I pity the poor IT specialist in a large company if they are
experiencing the same thing. However thanks to MS they have job security.

What am I getting for all of the expenditure of time? 3D paint, Virtual
reality, and a couple of other "IMPROVEMENTS" which I never use. However
I am "real" excited about the change in the left panel of the Settings
screen.


https://www.catalog.update.microsoft...px?q=kb4103721

2018-05 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64-based Systems
Windows 10 Security Updates 5/4/2018 n/a 326.5MB

So that's the first patch for the newest version of OS.

I haven't applied that yet to mine. Mine is still at the original 1803 level.

For the "running slow" one, you can check with Task Manager.
Make sure you see the PID column and have the Process ID number.

You can use Sysinternals Process Explorer, Run As Administrator,
and you can do Properties on individual PIDs and learn more about
them.

Paul
  #4  
Old May 9th 18, 05:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ed Cryer
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Default Update cycle; KB41037211

Ed Cryer wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:
This is the worst update yet that MS has put out.

My small tablet is stuck with over 10GB of storage space locked up in
the 1803 update that will not install.* This was expected but not
appreciated as it always has problems updating.* Since I decided to
wait, and am just know updating I suspect it is experiencing the same
problem with KB41037211 as my laptop.

My laptop CPU i7, 8GB ram, 1TB on the disk installed the main update,
with minimal problems, but took four restarts to get KB41037211
installed, It is running very slow.* It would go through the update
restart and it would still show there was an update to install.* After
trying last night and KB41037211 failing to install, I restarted
several more times this morning and it finally installed.

Some time to day I will have to try to update my desktop, it only has
a CPU i5, 8GB of memory and a 2TB of disk storage.

I pity the poor IT specialist in a large company if they are
experiencing the same thing.* However thanks to MS they have job
security.

What am I getting for all of the expenditure of time?* 3D paint,
Virtual reality, and a couple of other "IMPROVEMENTS" which I never
use. However I am "real" excited about the change in the left panel of
the Settings screen.



I downloaded an iso of the 1803 update, and it ran like butter on all
desktops. I have yet to try it on my tablet. I probably won't, because I
recall that 1709 failed too, and it wouldn't use the 1TB of free space
on a portable HD I plugged in.

Your description of your desktop with "only" should cause no worries. At
least not if you use an iso for the job. That worked here on a desktop
with smaller figures than your "only".

Ed


On the road to success with the tablet!
I tried the DVD, but got told that it was the wrong OS, contact your .....
So, I was about to google, when I noticed a new small file on my
desktop; "Windows Update Assistant".
I scanned it, clicked on it, and got informed that it's always best to
stay up to date with latest Win10, and that my machine was ready for an
update (having sufficient memory, disk space (I'd plugged a portable HD
in) and other resources.
And it's downloading; 19% so far, very slow.
I'll report back later.

Ed
  #5  
Old May 9th 18, 10:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ed Cryer
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Default Update cycle; KB41037211

Ed Cryer wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:
This is the worst update yet that MS has put out.

My small tablet is stuck with over 10GB of storage space locked up in
the 1803 update that will not install.* This was expected but not
appreciated as it always has problems updating.* Since I decided to
wait, and am just know updating I suspect it is experiencing the same
problem with KB41037211 as my laptop.

My laptop CPU i7, 8GB ram, 1TB on the disk installed the main update,
with minimal problems, but took four restarts to get KB41037211
installed, It is running very slow.* It would go through the update
restart and it would still show there was an update to install.
After trying last night and KB41037211 failing to install, I
restarted several more times this morning and it finally installed.

Some time to day I will have to try to update my desktop, it only has
a CPU i5, 8GB of memory and a 2TB of disk storage.

I pity the poor IT specialist in a large company if they are
experiencing the same thing.* However thanks to MS they have job
security.

What am I getting for all of the expenditure of time?* 3D paint,
Virtual reality, and a couple of other "IMPROVEMENTS" which I never
use. However I am "real" excited about the change in the left panel
of the Settings screen.



I downloaded an iso of the 1803 update, and it ran like butter on all
desktops. I have yet to try it on my tablet. I probably won't, because
I recall that 1709 failed too, and it wouldn't use the 1TB of free
space on a portable HD I plugged in.

Your description of your desktop with "only" should cause no worries.
At least not if you use an iso for the job. That worked here on a
desktop with smaller figures than your "only".

Ed


On the road to success with the tablet!
I tried the DVD, but got told that it was the wrong OS, contact your .....
So, I was about to google, when I noticed a new small file on my
desktop; "Windows Update Assistant".
I scanned it, clicked on it, and got informed that it's always best to
stay up to date with latest Win10, and that my machine was ready for an
update (having sufficient memory, disk space (I'd plugged a portable HD
in) and other resources.
And it's downloading; 19% so far, very slow.
I'll report back later.

Ed


Finished, after running for 5 hours, and it has installed 1709. The
Update Assistant says that updated successfully. No mention of 1803.
HD free space still ok at 12GB after disk clean of old systems.

Ed
  #6  
Old May 9th 18, 11:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Good Guy[_2_]
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Default Update cycle; KB41037211

On 09/05/2018 22:48, Ed Cryer wrote:

Finished, after running for 5 hours, and it has installed 1709. The
Update Assistant says that updated successfully. No mention of 1803.
HD free space still ok at 12GB after disk clean of old systems.



Check whether you you get 17134.48:

The mention of 1803 is under Windows Specification. See this picture.

https://i.imgur.com/JTiJDbZ.png https://i.imgur.com/JTiJDbZ.png


Frankly if the disk space is too small then Clean Install is faster.
This is because, you are not likely to have many Apps to install. This
applies to somebody who had disk drive of 33GB only. God knows what can
you do with it!!!

I had 256 SSD that came with a brand new machine and I just removed it
It was not suitable for me because I run various versions of Visual
Studios (2010, 2012, 2013, 2015 and 2017) and they need updates
regularly so 256GB was completely waste of time and money. I had another
drive with 4TB but the Apps were not using it at all. So I installed
windows on that drive and everything works faster now.
/--- This email has been checked for viruses by
Windows Defender software.
//https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/comprehensive-security/




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  #7  
Old May 10th 18, 12:03 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Keith Nuttle
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Default Update cycle; KB41037211

On 5/9/2018 5:48 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:
This is the worst update yet that MS has put out.

My small tablet is stuck with over 10GB of storage space locked up
in the 1803 update that will not install.* This was expected but not
appreciated as it always has problems updating.* Since I decided to
wait, and am just know updating I suspect it is experiencing the
same problem with KB41037211 as my laptop.

My laptop CPU i7, 8GB ram, 1TB on the disk installed the main
update, with minimal problems, but took four restarts to get
KB41037211 installed, It is running very slow.* It would go through
the update restart and it would still show there was an update to
install. After trying last night and KB41037211 failing to install,
I restarted several more times this morning and it finally installed.

Some time to day I will have to try to update my desktop, it only
has a CPU i5, 8GB of memory and a 2TB of disk storage.

I pity the poor IT specialist in a large company if they are
experiencing the same thing.* However thanks to MS they have job
security.

What am I getting for all of the expenditure of time?* 3D paint,
Virtual reality, and a couple of other "IMPROVEMENTS" which I never
use. However I am "real" excited about the change in the left panel
of the Settings screen.



I downloaded an iso of the 1803 update, and it ran like butter on all
desktops. I have yet to try it on my tablet. I probably won't,
because I recall that 1709 failed too, and it wouldn't use the 1TB of
free space on a portable HD I plugged in.

Your description of your desktop with "only" should cause no worries.
At least not if you use an iso for the job. That worked here on a
desktop with smaller figures than your "only".

Ed


On the road to success with the tablet!
I tried the DVD, but got told that it was the wrong OS, contact your
.....
So, I was about to google, when I noticed a new small file on my
desktop; "Windows Update Assistant".
I scanned it, clicked on it, and got informed that it's always best to
stay up to date with latest Win10, and that my machine was ready for
an update (having sufficient memory, disk space (I'd plugged a
portable HD in) and other resources.
And it's downloading; 19% so far, very slow.
I'll report back later.

Ed


Finished, after running for 5 hours, and it has installed 1709. The
Update Assistant says that updated successfully. No mention of 1803.
HD free space still ok at 12GB after disk clean of old systems.

Ed

For the records I had 16.4 GB on my tablet when 1803 failed. I have now
got to get rid of 1bout 10 GB of temporary files that the update put in
my storage, before I can even attempt to try a fourth install

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  #8  
Old May 10th 18, 01:30 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Update cycle; KB41037211

Ed Cryer wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:
This is the worst update yet that MS has put out.

My small tablet is stuck with over 10GB of storage space locked up
in the 1803 update that will not install. This was expected but not
appreciated as it always has problems updating. Since I decided to
wait, and am just know updating I suspect it is experiencing the
same problem with KB41037211 as my laptop.

My laptop CPU i7, 8GB ram, 1TB on the disk installed the main
update, with minimal problems, but took four restarts to get
KB41037211 installed, It is running very slow. It would go through
the update restart and it would still show there was an update to
install. After trying last night and KB41037211 failing to install,
I restarted several more times this morning and it finally installed.

Some time to day I will have to try to update my desktop, it only
has a CPU i5, 8GB of memory and a 2TB of disk storage.

I pity the poor IT specialist in a large company if they are
experiencing the same thing. However thanks to MS they have job
security.

What am I getting for all of the expenditure of time? 3D paint,
Virtual reality, and a couple of other "IMPROVEMENTS" which I never
use. However I am "real" excited about the change in the left panel
of the Settings screen.



I downloaded an iso of the 1803 update, and it ran like butter on all
desktops. I have yet to try it on my tablet. I probably won't,
because I recall that 1709 failed too, and it wouldn't use the 1TB of
free space on a portable HD I plugged in.

Your description of your desktop with "only" should cause no worries.
At least not if you use an iso for the job. That worked here on a
desktop with smaller figures than your "only".

Ed


On the road to success with the tablet!
I tried the DVD, but got told that it was the wrong OS, contact your
.....
So, I was about to google, when I noticed a new small file on my
desktop; "Windows Update Assistant".
I scanned it, clicked on it, and got informed that it's always best to
stay up to date with latest Win10, and that my machine was ready for
an update (having sufficient memory, disk space (I'd plugged a
portable HD in) and other resources.
And it's downloading; 19% so far, very slow.
I'll report back later.

Ed


Finished, after running for 5 hours, and it has installed 1709. The
Update Assistant says that updated successfully. No mention of 1803.
HD free space still ok at 12GB after disk clean of old systems.

Ed


cleanmgr.exe can remove C:\Windows.old for you.

Click the system files button, to get the second
level of Cleanmgr running. Then for the time being,
*only* select the "previous OS" files for removal
(one tick box).

There is one option at that level, that causes the
OS to start compressing files, which can take quite
a while. You don't want to trigger that one by
accident, if it wasn't your intention.

If you run the "winver" command, it'll give you
the build numbers, such as 17134 or whatever.
The previous OS was 16299.

Windows.old will be automatically deleted in 10 days
or so, and using Cleanmgr is "if you're in a hurry to
remove all possibility of reverting the OS version".

My Windows.old this time, cleanmgr said there was
about 7GB of files. Which is less than normal. I sure
hope they weren't compressing those for nothing...

Paul
  #9  
Old May 10th 18, 11:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ed Cryer
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Default Update cycle; KB41037211

Paul wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:
This is the worst update yet that MS has put out.

My small tablet is stuck with over 10GB of storage space locked up
in the 1803 update that will not install.* This was expected but
not appreciated as it always has problems updating.* Since I
decided to wait, and am just know updating I suspect it is
experiencing the same problem with KB41037211 as my laptop.

My laptop CPU i7, 8GB ram, 1TB on the disk installed the main
update, with minimal problems, but took four restarts to get
KB41037211 installed, It is running very slow.* It would go through
the update restart and it would still show there was an update to
install.* After trying last night and KB41037211 failing to
install, I restarted several more times this morning and it finally
installed.

Some time to day I will have to try to update my desktop, it only
has a CPU i5, 8GB of memory and a 2TB of disk storage.

I pity the poor IT specialist in a large company if they are
experiencing the same thing.* However thanks to MS they have job
security.

What am I getting for all of the expenditure of time?* 3D paint,
Virtual reality, and a couple of other "IMPROVEMENTS" which I never
use. However I am "real" excited about the change in the left panel
of the Settings screen.



I downloaded an iso of the 1803 update, and it ran like butter on
all desktops. I have yet to try it on my tablet. I probably won't,
because I recall that 1709 failed too, and it wouldn't use the 1TB
of free space on a portable HD I plugged in.

Your description of your desktop with "only" should cause no
worries. At least not if you use an iso for the job. That worked
here on a desktop with smaller figures than your "only".

Ed

On the road to success with the tablet!
I tried the DVD, but got told that it was the wrong OS, contact your
.....
So, I was about to google, when I noticed a new small file on my
desktop; "Windows Update Assistant".
I scanned it, clicked on it, and got informed that it's always best
to stay up to date with latest Win10, and that my machine was ready
for an update (having sufficient memory, disk space (I'd plugged a
portable HD in) and other resources.
And it's downloading; 19% so far, very slow.
I'll report back later.

Ed


Finished, after running for 5 hours, and it has installed 1709. The
Update Assistant says that updated successfully. No mention of 1803.
HD free space still ok at 12GB after disk clean of old systems.

Ed


cleanmgr.exe can remove C:\Windows.old for you.

Click the system files button, to get the second
level of Cleanmgr running. Then for the time being,
*only* select the "previous OS" files for removal
(one tick box).

There is one option at that level, that causes the
OS to start compressing files, which can take quite
a while. You don't want to trigger that one by
accident, if it wasn't your intention.

If you run the "winver" command, it'll give you
the build numbers, such as 17134 or whatever.
The previous OS was 16299.

Windows.old will be automatically deleted in 10 days
or so, and using Cleanmgr is "if you're in a hurry to
remove all possibility of reverting the OS version".

My Windows.old this time, cleanmgr said there was
about 7GB of files. Which is less than normal. I sure
hope they weren't compressing those for nothing...

** Paul


The tablet has very limited usage; and it's been giving sufficient
competence on that for years, even with Win10 ancient.
Basically just a portable Windows, OS that supports various dictionaries
and language databases & programs; but has browser, email, games as extras.
I would gladly stick with where I'm at with it; 1709 seems surplus to
requirements.

Ed
  #10  
Old May 10th 18, 08:11 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Frank Slootweg
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Default Market share of Win10 in large companies/businesses? (was: Update cycle; KB41037211)

Keith Nuttle wrote:
This is the worst update yet that MS has put out.

[...]
My laptop CPU i7, 8GB ram, 1TB on the disk installed the main update,
with minimal problems, but took four restarts to get KB41037211
installed, It is running very slow. It would go through the update
restart and it would still show there was an update to install. After
trying last night and KB41037211 failing to install, I restarted several
more times this morning and it finally installed.

Some time to day I will have to try to update my desktop, it only has a
CPU i5, 8GB of memory and a 2TB of disk storage.

I pity the poor IT specialist in a large company if they are
experiencing the same thing. However thanks to MS they have job security.


That makes me wonder, are there any - reliable - statistics about the
use of Windows 10 in large companies/businesses?

As I've said before - about the use of XP - large(r) companies/
businesses will have their infrastructure hidden from the outside world,
so normal stats-gatherers [1] can not report these systems.

[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows#Usage_share_and_device_sales

What am I getting for all of the expenditure of time? 3D paint, Virtual
reality, and a couple of other "IMPROVEMENTS" which I never use. However
I am "real" excited about the change in the left panel of the Settings
screen.


That's why I'm glad our two systems are still on 8.1. The newest one
was bought a couple of months before 10 came out. Phew! Narrow escape!
:-)

[Yes, I tried 10. Trying was more than enough.]
  #11  
Old May 10th 18, 09:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Market share of Win10 in large companies/businesses?

On 05/10/2018 12:11 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows#Usage_share_and_device_sales


I am surprised at how many are still using w7, not that it
is not popular, but because M$ is making it really hard to sell.

Businesses and Windows 10 really don't mix well, mainly because
of the update hassles. Difficulty of use is also not appreciated,
along with incomparability issues with older software.

Classic Shell goes a long way to helping the difficulty of
use problems. Shut Up 10 with the update issues.

It is what it is.
  #12  
Old May 11th 18, 10:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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Default Update cycle; KB41037211

On 5/9/2018 7:51 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:

Update cycle; KB41037211


FYI, it's 4103721, 7 numbers!

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Old May 11th 18, 11:02 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Update cycle; KB41037211

Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 5/9/2018 7:51 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:

Update cycle; KB41037211


FYI, it's 4103721, 7 numbers!


And it seemed to work here.

At least the updating part worked. I don't
know if all functions work properly or not.

Paul
  #14  
Old May 11th 18, 01:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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Default Update cycle; KB41037211

On 5/11/2018 6:02 PM, Paul wrote:
And it seemed to work here.

At least the updating part worked. I don't
know if all functions work properly or not.

** Paul


It's ALWAYS supposed to work! Why could Micro$oft break promises? Why do
we tolerate Micro$oft's lies and internal infernal problems?

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