Computer won't boot up after installing new RAM

Hi JS

Sorry i couldn't write you before today i was out of the city.I tried
installing new RAM and i was able to boot and check BIOS like you told me
before to compare between old and new RAM values in BIOS.

New RAM
Under Advanced chipset features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
DRAM RAS# Percharge 4
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us


Old RAM
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Perchange Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us

Does that mean they aren't compatible and new RAM won't work with the
motherboard i have.Please help.Thanks again.

"JS" wrote:

If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using 256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing Del key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if see if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

"JS" wrote:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3 PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT
Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me if
the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much
appreciated.Thanks
again

"JS" wrote:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...00D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency For
[Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I didn't install both RAMs old and new ones at the same time.Now
i
only
have the old ones which are installed.I even tried to only
install
one
Stick
of the new RAM in a different slot and still didn't work.I wrote
you
the
model of the new RAM i got a little while ago


The computer is a home built
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000-L , 2004
GT
Edition
Chipset: Intel 865PE, FSB 800, Dual DDR 400, AGP 8x

Processor: Intel 3.0 MHZ Socket 478


Hope that helps.Thanks again

"Pool" wrote:

Hi JS

here is what written on the box of the RAM i bought please tell
me
if
it
is
compatible with the motherboard i have

Kingston: KVR800D2N6/1G
1GB PC2-6400 CL6 240-Pin DIMM

On the stick of RAM is written : 1GB DDR PC-3200
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


Thanks again

"Pool" wrote:

Hi JS

I already done that test and it gave me no errors.That is why
i
don't
know
if it is a RAM problem or something related to PSU.You said it
could
be

Hi JS

Sorry i couldn't write you before today i was out of the city.I tried
installing new RAM and i was able to boot and check BIOS like you told me
before to compare between old and new RAM values in BIOS.

New RAM
Under Advanced chipset features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
DRAM RAS# Percharge 4
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us


Old RAM
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Perchange Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us

Does that mean they aren't compatible and new RAM won't work with the
motherboard i have.Please help.Thanks again.

"JS" wrote:

If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using 256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing Del key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if see if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

"JS" wrote:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3 PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT
Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me if
the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much
appreciated.Thanks
again

"JS" wrote:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...00D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency For
[Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I didn't install both RAMs old and new ones at the same time.Now
i
only
have the old ones which are installed.I even tried to only
install
one
Stick
of the new RAM in a different slot and still didn't work.I wrote
you
the
model of the new RAM i got a little while ago


The computer is a home built
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000-L , 2004
GT
Edition
Chipset: Intel 865PE, FSB 800, Dual DDR 400, AGP 8x

Processor: Intel 3.0 MHZ Socket 478


Hope that helps.Thanks again

"Pool" wrote:

Hi JS

here is what written on the box of the RAM i bought please tell
me
if
it
is
compatible with the motherboard i have

Kingston: KVR800D2N6/1G
1GB PC2-6400 CL6 240-Pin DIMM

On the stick of RAM is written : 1GB DDR PC-3200
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


Thanks again

"Pool" wrote:

Hi JS

I already done that test and it gave me no errors.That is why
i
don't
know
if it is a RAM problem or something related to PSU.You said it
could
be

No the small difference in the values is insignificant and
is actually in favor of the new ram as far as booting.
Also sometimes a BIOS will not accurately read the
memory sticks stated SPD numbers.

Go over the operating voltage specs one more time and if no joy
return the memory to the place you purchased it from and then use the
Crucial Memory Advisor tool posted earlier. If you purchase the memory
the "Advisor" recommends your problems should be solved.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Sorry i couldn't write you before today i was out of the city.I tried
installing new RAM and i was able to boot and check BIOS like you told me
before to compare between old and new RAM values in BIOS.

New RAM
Under Advanced chipset features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
DRAM RAS# Percharge 4
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us


Old RAM
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Perchange Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us

Does that mean they aren't compatible and new RAM won't work with the
motherboard i have.Please help.Thanks again.

"JS" wrote:

If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to
enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using
256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should
look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing Del key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the
BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if see
if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I
tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is
it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

"JS" wrote:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3
PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L
Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT
Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to
only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me
if
the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much
appreciated.Thanks
again

"JS" wrote:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...00D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency
For
[Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I didn't install both RAMs old and new ones at the same
time.Now
i
only
have the old ones which are installed.I even tried to only
install
one
Stick
of the new RAM in a different slot and still didn't work.I
wrote
you
the
model of the new RAM i got a little while ago


The computer is a home built
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000-L ,
2004
GT
Edition
Chipset: Intel 865PE, FSB 800, Dual DDR 400, AGP 8x

Processor: Intel 3.0 MHZ Socket 478


Hope that helps.Thanks again

"Pool" wrote:

Hi JS

here is what written on the box of the RAM i bought please
tell
me
if
it
is
compatible with the motherboard i have

Kingston: KVR800D2N6/1G
1GB PC2-6400 CL6 240-Pin DIMM

On the stick of RAM is written : 1GB DDR PC-3200
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


Thanks again

"Pool" wrote:

Hi JS

I already done that test and it gave me no errors.That is
why
i
don't
know
if it is a RAM problem or something related to PSU.You said
it
could
be

No the small difference in the values is insignificant and
is actually in favor of the new ram as far as booting.
Also sometimes a BIOS will not accurately read the
memory sticks stated SPD numbers.

Go over the operating voltage specs one more time and if no joy
return the memory to the place you purchased it from and then use the
Crucial Memory Advisor tool posted earlier. If you purchase the memory
the "Advisor" recommends your problems should be solved.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Sorry i couldn't write you before today i was out of the city.I tried
installing new RAM and i was able to boot and check BIOS like you told me
before to compare between old and new RAM values in BIOS.

New RAM
Under Advanced chipset features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
DRAM RAS# Percharge 4
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us


Old RAM
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Perchange Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us

Does that mean they aren't compatible and new RAM won't work with the
motherboard i have.Please help.Thanks again.

"JS" wrote:

If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to
enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using
256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should
look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing Del key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the
BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if see
if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I
tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is
it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

"JS" wrote:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3
PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L
Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT
Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to
only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me
if
the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much
appreciated.Thanks
again

"JS" wrote:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...00D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency
For
[Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I didn't install both RAMs old and new ones at the same
time.Now
i
only
have the old ones which are installed.I even tried to only
install
one
Stick
of the new RAM in a different slot and still didn't work.I
wrote
you
the
model of the new RAM i got a little while ago


The computer is a home built
Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series GA-8IPE1000-L ,
2004
GT
Edition
Chipset: Intel 865PE, FSB 800, Dual DDR 400, AGP 8x

Processor: Intel 3.0 MHZ Socket 478


Hope that helps.Thanks again

"Pool" wrote:

Hi JS

here is what written on the box of the RAM i bought please
tell
me
if
it
is
compatible with the motherboard i have

Kingston: KVR800D2N6/1G
1GB PC2-6400 CL6 240-Pin DIMM

On the stick of RAM is written : 1GB DDR PC-3200
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


Thanks again

"Pool" wrote:

Hi JS

I already done that test and it gave me no errors.That is
why
i
don't
know
if it is a RAM problem or something related to PSU.You said
it
could
be

Hi JS

Thank you for the information you gave me.I guess i got RAM that isn't
working correctly.When i typed Kingston model KVR800D2N6/1G i wrote the one i
have in my other desktop so it was mistake.The one i was trying to install is
DDR1 since i know DDR2 wouldn't fit in even if i tried to install it since
the notch is different.Here is what written on the sticker of new RAM which
isn't working: EasyPC Technology, 1GB DDR PC-3200, CT1GD64SH08BL-5T in case
you want to do some search on it.Thanks again for your help.

"JS" wrote:

No the small difference in the values is insignificant and
is actually in favor of the new ram as far as booting.
Also sometimes a BIOS will not accurately read the
memory sticks stated SPD numbers.

Go over the operating voltage specs one more time and if no joy
return the memory to the place you purchased it from and then use the
Crucial Memory Advisor tool posted earlier. If you purchase the memory
the "Advisor" recommends your problems should be solved.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Sorry i couldn't write you before today i was out of the city.I tried
installing new RAM and i was able to boot and check BIOS like you told me
before to compare between old and new RAM values in BIOS.

New RAM
Under Advanced chipset features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
DRAM RAS# Percharge 4
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us


Old RAM
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Perchange Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us

Does that mean they aren't compatible and new RAM won't work with the
motherboard i have.Please help.Thanks again.

"JS" wrote:

If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to
enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using
256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should
look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing Del key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the
BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if see
if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I
tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is
it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

"JS" wrote:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3
PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L
Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT
Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to
only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me
if
the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much
appreciated.Thanks
again

"JS" wrote:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...00D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency
For
[Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com

Hi JS

Thank you for the information you gave me.I guess i got RAM that isn't
working correctly.When i typed Kingston model KVR800D2N6/1G i wrote the one i
have in my other desktop so it was mistake.The one i was trying to install is
DDR1 since i know DDR2 wouldn't fit in even if i tried to install it since
the notch is different.Here is what written on the sticker of new RAM which
isn't working: EasyPC Technology, 1GB DDR PC-3200, CT1GD64SH08BL-5T in case
you want to do some search on it.Thanks again for your help.

"JS" wrote:

No the small difference in the values is insignificant and
is actually in favor of the new ram as far as booting.
Also sometimes a BIOS will not accurately read the
memory sticks stated SPD numbers.

Go over the operating voltage specs one more time and if no joy
return the memory to the place you purchased it from and then use the
Crucial Memory Advisor tool posted earlier. If you purchase the memory
the "Advisor" recommends your problems should be solved.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Sorry i couldn't write you before today i was out of the city.I tried
installing new RAM and i was able to boot and check BIOS like you told me
before to compare between old and new RAM values in BIOS.

New RAM
Under Advanced chipset features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
DRAM RAS# Percharge 4
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us


Old RAM
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Perchange Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us

Does that mean they aren't compatible and new RAM won't work with the
motherboard i have.Please help.Thanks again.

"JS" wrote:

If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to
enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using
256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should
look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing Del key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the
BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if see
if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I
tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is
it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

"JS" wrote:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3
PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L
Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT
Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to
only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me
if
the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much
appreciated.Thanks
again

"JS" wrote:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...00D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency
For
[Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com

Hi JS

Thank you for the information you gave me.I guess i got RAM that isn't
working correctly.When i gave you Kingston model KVR800D2N6/1G it was the one
i have in my other desktop so it was a mistake.DDR2 wouldn't fit in the
motherboard i mentioned earlier since notch wouldn't fit.Here is what written
on the sticker of the new RAM that isn't working: EasyPC Technology 1GB DDR
PC-3200 CT1GD64SH08BL-5T in case you want to make some search.Thank you so
much for your help.

"JS" wrote:

No the small difference in the values is insignificant and
is actually in favor of the new ram as far as booting.
Also sometimes a BIOS will not accurately read the
memory sticks stated SPD numbers.

Go over the operating voltage specs one more time and if no joy
return the memory to the place you purchased it from and then use the
Crucial Memory Advisor tool posted earlier. If you purchase the memory
the "Advisor" recommends your problems should be solved.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Sorry i couldn't write you before today i was out of the city.I tried
installing new RAM and i was able to boot and check BIOS like you told me
before to compare between old and new RAM values in BIOS.

New RAM
Under Advanced chipset features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
DRAM RAS# Percharge 4
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us


Old RAM
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Perchange Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us

Does that mean they aren't compatible and new RAM won't work with the
motherboard i have.Please help.Thanks again.

"JS" wrote:

If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to
enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using
256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should
look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing Del key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the
BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if see
if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I
tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is
it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

"JS" wrote:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3
PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L
Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT
Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to
only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me
if
the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much
appreciated.Thanks
again

"JS" wrote:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...00D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency
For
[Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com

Hi JS

Thank you for the information you gave me.I guess i got RAM that isn't
working correctly.When i gave you Kingston model KVR800D2N6/1G it was the one
i have in my other desktop so it was a mistake.DDR2 wouldn't fit in the
motherboard i mentioned earlier since notch wouldn't fit.Here is what written
on the sticker of the new RAM that isn't working: EasyPC Technology 1GB DDR
PC-3200 CT1GD64SH08BL-5T in case you want to make some search.Thank you so
much for your help.

"JS" wrote:

No the small difference in the values is insignificant and
is actually in favor of the new ram as far as booting.
Also sometimes a BIOS will not accurately read the
memory sticks stated SPD numbers.

Go over the operating voltage specs one more time and if no joy
return the memory to the place you purchased it from and then use the
Crucial Memory Advisor tool posted earlier. If you purchase the memory
the "Advisor" recommends your problems should be solved.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Sorry i couldn't write you before today i was out of the city.I tried
installing new RAM and i was able to boot and check BIOS like you told me
before to compare between old and new RAM values in BIOS.

New RAM
Under Advanced chipset features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
DRAM RAS# Percharge 4
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us


Old RAM
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Perchange Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us

Does that mean they aren't compatible and new RAM won't work with the
motherboard i have.Please help.Thanks again.

"JS" wrote:

If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to
enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using
256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should
look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing Del key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the
BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if see
if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I
tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old RAM.Is
it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

"JS" wrote:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket 775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3
PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L
Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004 GT
Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to
only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell me
if
the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much
appreciated.Thanks
again

"JS" wrote:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...00D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency
For
[Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com

Pool wrote:
Hi JS

Thank you for the information you gave me.I guess i got RAM that isn't
working correctly.When i gave you Kingston model KVR800D2N6/1G it was the one
i have in my other desktop so it was a mistake.DDR2 wouldn't fit in the
motherboard i mentioned earlier since notch wouldn't fit.Here is what written
on the sticker of the new RAM that isn't working: EasyPC Technology 1GB DDR
PC-3200 CT1GD64SH08BL-5T in case you want to make some search.Thank you so
much for your help.

Based on the memory chip part number you quoted in a previous post,
the memory should have worked. The memory chip, appears to be a
64Mx8 DDR PC3200 chip. Sixteen of those chips on a PC3200 module,
would give you 1GB of low density RAM.

EDD5108AGTA-5B-E DDR400B(3-3-3)
http://www.elpida.com/en/products/de...D5108AGTA.html

A low density 1GB module, shouldn't have a problem with
an 865PE motherboard. A low density 1GB module, should
work in any motherboard rated as being able to use
1GB modules. So I don't see a problem with the purchase.

Have the computer store test the RAM for you, as it is
likely defective.

Paul

Pool wrote:
Hi JS

Thank you for the information you gave me.I guess i got RAM that isn't
working correctly.When i gave you Kingston model KVR800D2N6/1G it was the one
i have in my other desktop so it was a mistake.DDR2 wouldn't fit in the
motherboard i mentioned earlier since notch wouldn't fit.Here is what written
on the sticker of the new RAM that isn't working: EasyPC Technology 1GB DDR
PC-3200 CT1GD64SH08BL-5T in case you want to make some search.Thank you so
much for your help.

Based on the memory chip part number you quoted in a previous post,
the memory should have worked. The memory chip, appears to be a
64Mx8 DDR PC3200 chip. Sixteen of those chips on a PC3200 module,
would give you 1GB of low density RAM.

EDD5108AGTA-5B-E DDR400B(3-3-3)
http://www.elpida.com/en/products/de...D5108AGTA.html

A low density 1GB module, shouldn't have a problem with
an 865PE motherboard. A low density 1GB module, should
work in any motherboard rated as being able to use
1GB modules. So I don't see a problem with the purchase.

Have the computer store test the RAM for you, as it is
likely defective.

Paul

I think you just got a bad batch of memory.
Return it ASAP and look for a quality brand
such as Kingston or Crucial.

Kingston: http://www.kingston.com/hyperx/products/khx.asp#400d


--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Thank you for the information you gave me.I guess i got RAM that isn't
working correctly.When i gave you Kingston model KVR800D2N6/1G it was the
one
i have in my other desktop so it was a mistake.DDR2 wouldn't fit in the
motherboard i mentioned earlier since notch wouldn't fit.Here is what
written
on the sticker of the new RAM that isn't working: EasyPC Technology 1GB
DDR
PC-3200 CT1GD64SH08BL-5T in case you want to make some search.Thank you so
much for your help.

"JS" wrote:

No the small difference in the values is insignificant and
is actually in favor of the new ram as far as booting.
Also sometimes a BIOS will not accurately read the
memory sticks stated SPD numbers.

Go over the operating voltage specs one more time and if no joy
return the memory to the place you purchased it from and then use the
Crucial Memory Advisor tool posted earlier. If you purchase the memory
the "Advisor" recommends your problems should be solved.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Sorry i couldn't write you before today i was out of the city.I tried
installing new RAM and i was able to boot and check BIOS like you told
me
before to compare between old and new RAM values in BIOS.

New RAM
Under Advanced chipset features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
DRAM RAS# Percharge 4
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us


Old RAM
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Perchange Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us

Does that mean they aren't compatible and new RAM won't work with the
motherboard i have.Please help.Thanks again.

"JS" wrote:

If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to
enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using
256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should
look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also
do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because
lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing Del key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the
BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if
see
if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC
Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick
ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I
tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old
RAM.Is
it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

"JS" wrote:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket
775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may
not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the
new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to
use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3
PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L
Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004
GT
Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to
only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell
me
if
the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much
appreciated.Thanks
again

"JS" wrote:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended
Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...00D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency
For
[Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com

I think you just got a bad batch of memory.
Return it ASAP and look for a quality brand
such as Kingston or Crucial.

Kingston: http://www.kingston.com/hyperx/products/khx.asp#400d


--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Thank you for the information you gave me.I guess i got RAM that isn't
working correctly.When i gave you Kingston model KVR800D2N6/1G it was the
one
i have in my other desktop so it was a mistake.DDR2 wouldn't fit in the
motherboard i mentioned earlier since notch wouldn't fit.Here is what
written
on the sticker of the new RAM that isn't working: EasyPC Technology 1GB
DDR
PC-3200 CT1GD64SH08BL-5T in case you want to make some search.Thank you so
much for your help.

"JS" wrote:

No the small difference in the values is insignificant and
is actually in favor of the new ram as far as booting.
Also sometimes a BIOS will not accurately read the
memory sticks stated SPD numbers.

Go over the operating voltage specs one more time and if no joy
return the memory to the place you purchased it from and then use the
Crucial Memory Advisor tool posted earlier. If you purchase the memory
the "Advisor" recommends your problems should be solved.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Sorry i couldn't write you before today i was out of the city.I tried
installing new RAM and i was able to boot and check BIOS like you told
me
before to compare between old and new RAM values in BIOS.

New RAM
Under Advanced chipset features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
DRAM RAS# Percharge 4
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us


Old RAM
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Perchange Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us

Does that mean they aren't compatible and new RAM won't work with the
motherboard i have.Please help.Thanks again.

"JS" wrote:

If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to
enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using
256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should
look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also
do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because
lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing Del key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the
BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if
see
if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC
Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick
ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I
tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old
RAM.Is
it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

"JS" wrote:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket
775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may
not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the
new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to
use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3
PC3200U-30330

New RAM: Two sticks of Kingston 1GB DDR PC-3200

Motherboard: Gigabyte Pentium 4 Titan Series, GA-8IPE1000-L
Series
FSB 800 , Dual DDR 400, AGP 8X, 2004
GT
Edition

Processor : 3.0GHZ Socket 478


I am not trying to install old RAM with new RAM,i am trying to
only
install
the new RAM i got because i want more memory.If you can tell
me
if
the
above
specifications are compatible i would be very much
appreciated.Thanks
again

"JS" wrote:

Kingston Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000/GA-8IPE1000-L Recommended
Memory:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...submit1=Search

Kingston KVR800D2N6/1G Specs:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/conf...00D2N6/1G&id=1

Also check the FSB speed for your Intel Processor

Motherboard manual (Page 55), BIOS setting = Memory Frequency
For
[Auto]

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com

Hi JS and Paul

Thank you so much for the valuable information you both gave me.I will get
a new pair of RAM according to the specification you gave me before and i
will get a new power supply because power supply fan is making loud
noises.Thanks again for your help.

"JS" wrote:

I think you just got a bad batch of memory.
Return it ASAP and look for a quality brand
such as Kingston or Crucial.

Kingston: http://www.kingston.com/hyperx/products/khx.asp#400d


--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Thank you for the information you gave me.I guess i got RAM that isn't
working correctly.When i gave you Kingston model KVR800D2N6/1G it was the
one
i have in my other desktop so it was a mistake.DDR2 wouldn't fit in the
motherboard i mentioned earlier since notch wouldn't fit.Here is what
written
on the sticker of the new RAM that isn't working: EasyPC Technology 1GB
DDR
PC-3200 CT1GD64SH08BL-5T in case you want to make some search.Thank you so
much for your help.

"JS" wrote:

No the small difference in the values is insignificant and
is actually in favor of the new ram as far as booting.
Also sometimes a BIOS will not accurately read the
memory sticks stated SPD numbers.

Go over the operating voltage specs one more time and if no joy
return the memory to the place you purchased it from and then use the
Crucial Memory Advisor tool posted earlier. If you purchase the memory
the "Advisor" recommends your problems should be solved.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Sorry i couldn't write you before today i was out of the city.I tried
installing new RAM and i was able to boot and check BIOS like you told
me
before to compare between old and new RAM values in BIOS.

New RAM
Under Advanced chipset features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
DRAM RAS# Percharge 4
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us


Old RAM
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Perchange Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us

Does that mean they aren't compatible and new RAM won't work with the
motherboard i have.Please help.Thanks again.

"JS" wrote:

If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to
enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using
256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should
look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also
do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because
lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing Del key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the
BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if
see
if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC
Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick
ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I
tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old
RAM.Is
it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

"JS" wrote:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket
775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may
not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the
new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to
use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3
PC3200U-30330

Hi JS and Paul

Thank you so much for the valuable information you both gave me.I will get
a new pair of RAM according to the specification you gave me before and i
will get a new power supply because power supply fan is making loud
noises.Thanks again for your help.

"JS" wrote:

I think you just got a bad batch of memory.
Return it ASAP and look for a quality brand
such as Kingston or Crucial.

Kingston: http://www.kingston.com/hyperx/products/khx.asp#400d


--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Thank you for the information you gave me.I guess i got RAM that isn't
working correctly.When i gave you Kingston model KVR800D2N6/1G it was the
one
i have in my other desktop so it was a mistake.DDR2 wouldn't fit in the
motherboard i mentioned earlier since notch wouldn't fit.Here is what
written
on the sticker of the new RAM that isn't working: EasyPC Technology 1GB
DDR
PC-3200 CT1GD64SH08BL-5T in case you want to make some search.Thank you so
much for your help.

"JS" wrote:

No the small difference in the values is insignificant and
is actually in favor of the new ram as far as booting.
Also sometimes a BIOS will not accurately read the
memory sticks stated SPD numbers.

Go over the operating voltage specs one more time and if no joy
return the memory to the place you purchased it from and then use the
Crucial Memory Advisor tool posted earlier. If you purchase the memory
the "Advisor" recommends your problems should be solved.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Sorry i couldn't write you before today i was out of the city.I tried
installing new RAM and i was able to boot and check BIOS like you told
me
before to compare between old and new RAM values in BIOS.

New RAM
Under Advanced chipset features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
DRAM RAS# Percharge 4
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us


Old RAM
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Perchange Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us

Does that mean they aren't compatible and new RAM won't work with the
motherboard i have.Please help.Thanks again.

"JS" wrote:

If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way to
enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS using
256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i should
look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i have.Also
do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because
lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing Del key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit the
BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and if
see
if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC
Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick
ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot up.I
tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old
RAM.Is
it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

"JS" wrote:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket
775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or may
not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with the
new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able to
use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3
PC3200U-30330

Don't forget to use the Crucial on-line analyzer.
Can save you from getting the wrong stuff again!
http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

As a cross check, to help in validating what you
purchase, both the Crucial and Kingston memory
for your PC should have very similar specifications.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS and Paul

Thank you so much for the valuable information you both gave me.I will get
a new pair of RAM according to the specification you gave me before and i
will get a new power supply because power supply fan is making loud
noises.Thanks again for your help.

"JS" wrote:

I think you just got a bad batch of memory.
Return it ASAP and look for a quality brand
such as Kingston or Crucial.

Kingston: http://www.kingston.com/hyperx/products/khx.asp#400d


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JS
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"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Thank you for the information you gave me.I guess i got RAM that isn't
working correctly.When i gave you Kingston model KVR800D2N6/1G it was
the
one
i have in my other desktop so it was a mistake.DDR2 wouldn't fit in the
motherboard i mentioned earlier since notch wouldn't fit.Here is what
written
on the sticker of the new RAM that isn't working: EasyPC Technology
1GB
DDR
PC-3200 CT1GD64SH08BL-5T in case you want to make some search.Thank you
so
much for your help.

"JS" wrote:

No the small difference in the values is insignificant and
is actually in favor of the new ram as far as booting.
Also sometimes a BIOS will not accurately read the
memory sticks stated SPD numbers.

Go over the operating voltage specs one more time and if no joy
return the memory to the place you purchased it from and then use the
Crucial Memory Advisor tool posted earlier. If you purchase the memory
the "Advisor" recommends your problems should be solved.

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JS
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"Pool" wrote in message
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Hi JS

Sorry i couldn't write you before today i was out of the city.I
tried
installing new RAM and i was able to boot and check BIOS like you
told
me
before to compare between old and new RAM values in BIOS.

New RAM
Under Advanced chipset features
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4
DRAM RAS# Percharge 4
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us


Old RAM
Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active To Perchange Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8us

Does that mean they aren't compatible and new RAM won't work with
the
motherboard i have.Please help.Thanks again.

"JS" wrote:

If the Power Supply fan is making uncommon noises
then yes replace it with a unit that at least equal to the
wattage rating on the power supply sticker. Look for
the number of 12V rails and the wattage for each rail.

If you have a 350 Watt power supply now then replace it
with a 450 or 550 watt supply to give you some spare wattage
in case you plan additional upgrades.

Now as to the memory issue, if the computer works fine with
the old memory sticks then you either have defective sticks or
more likely incompatible memory. Try the Crucial Memory
Advisor link: http://www.crucial.com/store/listmfgr.asp?cat=RAM

From what you posted the value of your
"Current CPU Temperature 64C" is way too high especially
if the computer is basically at idle (no load). You may want
to look at a better heatsink and fan plus Arctic Clean 1& 2 to
clean off the old past or pad one your CPU
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
and Arctic "Ceramique" for the thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

Read the instructions carefully on how to remove the old
past/pad from the CPU and the clean it using Artic Clean.
Same for applying the paste for a socket 478 CPU. Do
it properly and you CPU should drop down to about 34C
at idle.

But take care of the memory issue first.
Also check your existing values:
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3

How do these values compare with your old
and new memory?

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

I cannot get the computer to boot using 1GB RAM so i have no way
to
enter
BIOS.I can give you the information you wanted to know in BIOS
using
256MB
RAM which is installed to be able to use the computer

PC Health Status

VCore OK
DDR25V OK
+3.3V OK
+5V Ok
+12V OK

Current CPU Temperature 64C
Current CPU FAN Speed 3835 RPM
Current System FAN Speed 0 RPM

Frequency / Voltage Control

CPU Host Clock Control [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency(MHZ) 100
AGP/PCI/SRC Fixed 66/33/100

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100

DIMM over Voltage Control [Normal]
AGP over Voltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control [Normal]
Normal CPU VCore 1.5256V

Advanced Chipest Features

Configure DRAM Timing [SPD]
CAS Latency Time 3
Active to Percharge Delay 8
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 3
DRAM RAS# Percharge 3
Refresh Mode Select 7.8 us

When i pressed on CTRL+F1 it didn't give me anything

Please tell me what i shall i do next.

If i consider getting a new RAM what are the specifications i
should
look
for inorder to be sure it will work with the motherboard i
have.Also
do
you
think changing power supply unit could solve the problem because
lately
it's
Fan make noises not like it used to be.Thanks again

It's sound more and more like M.I.T settings
in your BIOS. What you need to do is only insert
one memory stick, boot and see if you can immediately enter
the BIOS. Do this by "Powering ON the computer and
pressing Del key several time to immediately will allow
you to enter BIOS setup.

If you can select "Load Optimized Defaults", then Save and Exit
the
BIOS.
Then power down, turn off the power supply or remove the power
cord
wait 30 seconds and insert the second memory stick.Power up and
if
see
if
all is well.

If still having problems power down and remove one stick.
Then power up and from the main BIOS Menu enter the "Check PC
Health"
status.
(Page 53 of the motherboard manual)

Next check the "Frequency and Voltage Control"
The "CPU Core voltage" ,
"Memory Frequency (MHz)" and "CPU Host Frequency (MHz)"
Note: Mem Freq number must be equal to or less the Ram Stick
ratings.
(Page 55) Same for memory voltages. If you can change the

After you check and adjust any values if necessary go back to
the
main BIOS menu and press Ctrl+F1, Gigabyte sometime hides
the advanced setting from users. Let me know if Ctrl+F1 brings
up any additional bios settings

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JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi JS

Here are the specifications of both new and old RAM

Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ , PC3200U-30330
N2DS25680BT-ST
0351.EME03C1201B.120393M.XX.TW


Kingston: 1GB DDR PC-3200
ELPIDA , D5108AGTA-5B-E
CT1GD64SH08BL-5T


I tried installing one stick of 1GB then i booted it worked
normally.Then
when i tried booting again it took around 20 seconds to boot
up.I
tried
booting a third time it didn't boot at all.Now i am using old
RAM.Is
it
a
RAM
problem or is it something with the power supply.Please help.

"JS" wrote:

There is a Elixir Part number, see the web site link below
and use there part numbering scheme, when you post back
the actual part number then I can do a better comparison.
http://www.elixir-memory.com/sup_name_rul_2.asp

Also you Gigabyte motherboard uses "MIT's" technology
which has been know to cause the PC to fail to boot on socket
775
motherboards when you first install new memory, this may or
may
not
be the case with the older sockets 478 motherboards.

The solution is to only install one memory stick and power up
the PC and let the BIOS "learn" the memory requirements
and then after a few successful reboots then install the
second
memory stick.

--
JS
http://www.pagestart.com



"Pool" wrote in message
...
Hi Everyone

Thank you so much for trying to help me solve the problem i
am
having.

I checked Memory frequency in Bios and here what i found

Memory Frequency For [Auto]
Memory Frequency(MHZ) 400
AGP/PCI/SRC Frequency(MHZ) 66/33/100


Also here is what written on the old RAM which came with
the
computer,Please tell me if it is the same compatible with
the
new
RAM i
bought recently.Now i installed old RAM inorder to be able
to
use
the
computer.

Old RAM : Two sticks of Elixir 256MB DDR-400MHZ, CL3
PC3200U-30330