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  #151  
Old March 13th 07, 01:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Justin
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Default XP Pro SP2, Vista & Vienna -- A Useful Progression?

"Alias" wrote in message
...
Adam Albright wrote:
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Justin, you're really a funny character. EVERYONE (but you) knows the
faster you drive the MORE fuel you'll use. It therefore will cost you
more in fuel burned driving at 95 MPH then it would at 60 MPH.



Not if you're coasting down a hill.

No gas needed at all. In fact, you can turn the engine off completely.



Awe crap! There always comes a time when I just have to admit....damn that
was good!


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  #152  
Old March 13th 07, 01:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
Alias
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Default XP Pro SP2, Vista & Vienna -- A Useful Progression?

Justin wrote:
"Alias" wrote in message
...
Adam Albright wrote:
.

Justin, you're really a funny character. EVERYONE (but you) knows the
faster you drive the MORE fuel you'll use. It therefore will cost you
more in fuel burned driving at 95 MPH then it would at 60 MPH.



Not if you're coasting down a hill.

No gas needed at all. In fact, you can turn the engine off completely.



Awe crap! There always comes a time when I just have to admit....damn
that was good!



Alias takes a bow and waves to the throngs on their feet clapping.

That said, I try to avoid moving vehicles as they are the most dangerous
place you can put your body, even more dangerous than strolling down a
street in downtown Baghdad or South Central LA, although I'm not sure
which of those two are more dangerous :-)

Alias
  #153  
Old March 13th 07, 02:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
TOM7601
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Default XP Pro SP2, Vista & Vienna -- A Useful Progression?

HEMI-Powered wrote:
Today, TOM7601 made these interesting comments ...

HEMI-Powered wrote:
Today, TOM7601 made these interesting comments ...

You're probably right, no one *NEEDS* a hybrid automobile
any more than anyone *NEEDS* a Hemi powered car. We buy what
we want and if it feeds our perception of our environmental
consciousness, or our driving skills, then so be it.
Different strokes for different folks.
Let's try to separate "need" from "want". Nobody needs a hot
PC and nobody needs Vista. Nobody needs a hybrid nor a HEMI
nor an F-150 nor a Mercedes-Benz S-650 for $150,000+. But,
people want these things, or think they do. This is what
freedom is all about, and is also what the free enterprise
system is all about. And, yes, ALL companies try to implant
the "need" in prospective customer's minds so they would
rather die than not buy the thing du jour.

Anyway, with the desert and mountains less than an hour
away, I can make use of the 4X4... :))

I thought that formatting *NEEDS* the way I did, I was making
a distinction of sorts. Next time I'll try to make the
distinction more clear (double-double?) by including *WANT*
for those who are slow on the uptake.

Thanks for the heads-up... :))


Tom, who of us are you arguing with and why? I believe, and have
stated so several times, that buying decisions for ALL products
hard or soft, consumer or vehicular, application SW or O/S is all
about freedom. Freedom to choose, freedom to decline, freedom to
buy what they want for whatever reason they want, and freedom to
not buy what they don't want to buy. WRT vehicles, I can see
really broad-based definitions of "need", "want", "desire", "lust
for", "require", and other adjectives applied to cars as small as
imported sub-sub compacts through the entire spectrum of car
sizes, price classes, engines, features, etc. The, there's the
people and cargo haulers, including traditional minivans or SUVs,
and the trucks. More recently, we've seen the rapid rise of CUVs,
again, all the way from sub-compact to really large. 4X4 vehicles
abound, as do AWD which is different. Some folks want an off-road
vehicle while others just want to pretent and still others just
want to be safe in rain and snow. There's other market segments
and many other quantitative and qualitative definitions one can
use to "justify" why people do or don't buy what any of us may
think they should. So, just because Justin has a F-150, someone
else has a 4X4 truck or SUV, I have a 5.7L HEMI, lots of folks
lust after the modern day muscle cars, and then there's the Prius
crowd.

So, as the old Wendy's ads used to say "where's the beef?" And,
note that none of the protagonists in this OT debate have
politicized the vehicle buying process nor evangelized any
favorite brands/models nor disparaged any, that I can tell. I'll
say it again: I may not like my company's competitures, but I
sure as Hell highly respect them. The Asians and some European
brands definitely do it right the first time, are price
efficient, plant build time efficient, have outstanding quality,
often superior fuel economy, and frequently competitive
performance. And, while the American Big Three ARE improving
rapidly across the board, the Asians are improving at a higher
rate. So, I can and will respect your views, just keep it factual
and no name calling, OK? Thanks.


I didn't realize that *WANTS* and *NEEDS* were considered "name calling."

We live and learn... :))
--
Tom - Vista, CA
  #154  
Old March 13th 07, 07:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
HEMI-Powered
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Default XP Pro SP2, Vista & Vienna -- A Useful Progression?

Today, TOM7601 made these interesting comments ...

I didn't realize that *WANTS* and *NEEDS* were considered
"name calling."

It was my perception of your tone and the way you've previously
been chipping away at both Justin and Me. I put out a short
epistle explaining what I thought you were "clarifying" in a
short, read: smart aleck way, message, so I add my 50 cents
worth.

I tend to lost track of who says what since I clear the old
headers, but someone, maybe you maybe not you, was coming on very
strong saying that Justin's buying experience was hooey, dealers
are out to screw you, and the same old saw complainst came across
in the tone, not necessarily the words, that the cars under
discussion are all in the same crap basket.

When I started talking about cars in this thread, it was to use
their product development process and the fact that theres tens
of millions of lines of computer code to try to illustrate to
some who were concerned about the bloat, slowness, and bugs in
Vista. It turned more into an OT discussion when Justin came in,
and I think one other person. So, in the middle of this, I put
out my own views of how and why people buy what they do, and
clarified it in response to another person - again, it may or may
not hat been you - and I was replying to your "wants" vs "need"
statement.

We live and learn... :))


Yes, we do, and that's why a free flow of ideas both pro and con
for the issue(s) du jour is a healthy thing. What I'd ask you to
do is to look at my comments and Justin's as clarification and
amplification, and some refutation, of your views, but NOT a
personal attack. I'd rather not get into that, as with DSH Spence
suddenly turning on me.

So, with all of that, have a great day!

-
HP, aka Jerry
  #155  
Old March 19th 07, 10:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)
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Default XP Pro SP2, Vista & Vienna -- A Useful Progression?

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:12:41 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:16:25 -0700, "Justin" wrote:
"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message


Me, too! Can you offer me some psycho-babble that will convince
me to pop for that SRT8? I need some sort of excuse to salve my
conscience that I really need that much power. Man, it sure would
be fun!


Less time on road = less fuel spent.


Justin, you're really a funny character. EVERYONE (but you) knows the
faster you drive the MORE fuel you'll use. It therefore will cost you
more in fuel burned driving at 95 MPH then it would at 60 MPH.


System efficiency plays a role, too. It wouldn't surprise me if
driving from LA to NY in 1st gear at 5 mph costs more than in top gear
cruise at 55 mph.

In terms of computing, there's a "capacity" or "speed" below which it
is more expensive to deliberately develop "smaller" systems, and a
higher level above which it's cheaper and more effective to harness
multiple smaller systems than to try and make one big one.

There's efficiency, too. It's not "cheaper" to use 22-bit data than
32-bit, or 5-bit ASCII than 8-bit, because of this.



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Saws are too hard to use.
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  #156  
Old March 19th 07, 01:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize
HEMI-Powered
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Default XP Pro SP2, Vista & Vienna -- A Useful Progression?

Today, cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) made these interesting
comments ...

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:12:41 -0500, Adam Albright
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:16:25 -0700, "Justin"
wrote:
"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message


Me, too! Can you offer me some psycho-babble that will
convince me to pop for that SRT8? I need some sort of
excuse to salve my conscience that I really need that much
power. Man, it sure would be fun!


Less time on road = less fuel spent.


Justin, you're really a funny character. EVERYONE (but you)
knows the faster you drive the MORE fuel you'll use. It
therefore will cost you more in fuel burned driving at 95 MPH
then it would at 60 MPH.


System efficiency plays a role, too. It wouldn't surprise me
if driving from LA to NY in 1st gear at 5 mph costs more than
in top gear cruise at 55 mph.

In terms of computing, there's a "capacity" or "speed" below
which it is more expensive to deliberately develop "smaller"
systems, and a higher level above which it's cheaper and more
effective to harness multiple smaller systems than to try and
make one big one.

There's efficiency, too. It's not "cheaper" to use 22-bit
data than 32-bit, or 5-bit ASCII than 8-bit, because of this.

All that is true. I'd add that the OP you're replying to missed a
joke from who HE was replying to, and Windows has never been a
paragon of efficiency and has generally depended highly on the HW
folks to build a better machine to "hide" their "inefficiency".

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HP, aka Jerry
 




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