help finding files

Thip wrote:
"Ed Cryer" wrote in message
...
Yes, that sounds like a woman to me.
:-)
Good luck. I could find them within minutes. I'm fully proof against
female recklessness!.

Ed

Methinks that sounds like misogyny. I'm the woman in the family who's
always fixed the males' messes. Can't teach them a damn thing--they
regularly screw things up and call me.

Anyway, Ed, I think those statements are beneath you.

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You must be an irregularity.
How are your navigational skills?

Ed

On 11/01/2013 05:41 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , philo writes
On 11/01/2013 02:48 PM, badgolferman wrote:
My wife copied pictures from a camera to the computer and she has no
idea where they went. She says she created a zip file too but has no
idea where that is either.....

The camera has a memory stick that goes into the computer. She said it
took hours for the pictures to download. I'm having trouble finding
where these files got saved. Is there a way to determine that using
the operating system? Would the OS change the date of the files when
copied to the computer?

Any help appreciated.




If she just used Windows Explorer, they'd be in "My Pictures"



Someone who cannot figure out how to find their photos is probably not
likely to be able to find their way back to this newsgroup so I did not
waste my time giving a detailed answer.

On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 14:54:20 -0400, Thip wrote:

"Ed Cryer" wrote in message
...
Yes, that sounds like a woman to me.
:-)
Good luck. I could find them within minutes. I'm fully proof against
female recklessness!.

Ed

Methinks that sounds like misogyny. I'm the woman in the family who's
always fixed the males' messes. Can't teach them a damn thing--they
regularly screw things up and call me.

Anyway, Ed, I think those statements are beneath you.

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He did use a smiley, but I still agree with you.

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On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 21:40:06 -0500, Bob I wrote:

On 11/1/2013 8:24 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 09:12:31 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 19:48:24 +0000 (UTC),
"badgolferman"
wrote:

My wife copied pictures from a camera to the computer and she has no
idea where they went. She says she created a zip file too but has no
idea where that is either.....

The camera has a memory stick that goes into the computer. She said it
took hours for the pictures to download. I'm having trouble finding
where these files got saved. Is there a way to determine that using
the operating system? Would the OS change the date of the files when
copied to the computer?

Any help appreciated.

If all else fails, try examining the camera with
recovery software such as:
http://www.icare-recovery.com/

Just connect the camera to the computer and such
software can recover the old photos, but only if
they're not covered over by new ones.

That would perhaps be useful if the files on the memory card got lost,
but that isn't what happened here.


Actually that would work. "Undelete" the files on the camera, start the
download, and pay attention to where the system complains about the same
files already there!

AFAICT, there is no mention that the files on the SD card were ever
deleted.

So your procedure is (to be charitable) effectively identical to the one
I previously posted in this thread.

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On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 01:06:07 -0200, Shadow wrote:

On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 19:48:24 +0000 (UTC), "badgolferman"
wrote:

My wife copied pictures from a camera to the computer and she has no
idea where they went. She says she created a zip file too but has no
idea where that is either.....

The camera has a memory stick that goes into the computer. She said it
took hours for the pictures to download. I'm having trouble finding
where these files got saved. Is there a way to determine that using
the operating system? Would the OS change the date of the files when
copied to the computer?

Any help appreciated.

If you can't find them on the PC, she probably "moved" them to
the trashcan. In which case they will still be on the memory card (but
invisible). Use Recuva on the memory card, and save them somewhere
"visible", like a new folder on your desktop.
DO NOT TAKE any pictures with that memory card until you have
recovered the old photos, or they will be overwritten.
Read the docs or tuts before you use it.

http://www.piriform.com/recuva/download
[]'s

(there is a portable version on the page, search for "Builds",
if you prefer portable)

Again, the OP has said nothing about his wife erasing the files on the
SD card...

This is not to say they didn't do so, but the verb he used in the post
was "copied".

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In message , Gene E. Bloch
writes:
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 09:12:31 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 19:48:24 +0000 (UTC),
"badgolferman"
wrote:

My wife copied pictures from a camera to the computer and she has no

Did she read from the camera, or from the camera card taken out of the
camera and inserted into a reader on the computer (or on something
attached to it like a printer)?

idea where they went. She says she created a zip file too but has no
idea where that is either.....

Does she think she deleted the pictures from the camera (or card)? Does
she think she deleted them from where they were on the computer when she
made the .zip file?

The camera has a memory stick that goes into the computer. She said it
took hours for the pictures to download. I'm having trouble finding

If it was literally "hours", then that is significant, even for today's
huge (usually unnecessarily so!) images and cards. Is it possible she
was copying them to some network-connected location (and thus not on the
computer at all)? That might explain the slowness.

where these files got saved. Is there a way to determine that using
the operating system? Would the OS change the date of the files when
copied to the computer?

It wouldn't _usually_ change the date, in the sense of the normal file
date, of the files. In the sense of the date(s) embedded within the
files, i. e. the EXIF data recorded by the camera that shows (if the
camera clock/calendar was set correctly), then I wouldn't expect that to
be changed either - in fact even less likely. If the copying involved
the creation of folders (even if the same structure as was on the
source), then IME the new ones will have a new date.

Any help appreciated.

If all else fails, try examining the camera with
recovery software such as:
http://www.icare-recovery.com/

Just connect the camera to the computer and such
software can recover the old photos, but only if
they're not covered over by new ones.

That would perhaps be useful if the files on the memory card got lost,
but that isn't what happened here.

If you mean they were deleted rather than lost, then it probably _would_
still work (since such deletion doesn't usually overwrite). If you mean
that you have interpreted the question as asking where on the computer
they went to (especially if _not_ deleted from the camera - i. e. copied
rather than "moved"), then you are right, such recovery software
wouldn't answer _that_ question.
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In message , Gene E. Bloch
writes
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 01:06:07 -0200, Shadow wrote:

On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 19:48:24 +0000 (UTC), "badgolferman"
wrote:

My wife copied pictures from a camera to the computer and she has no
idea where they went. She says she created a zip file too but has no
idea where that is either.....

The camera has a memory stick that goes into the computer. She said it
took hours for the pictures to download. I'm having trouble finding
where these files got saved. Is there a way to determine that using
the operating system? Would the OS change the date of the files when
copied to the computer?

Any help appreciated.

If you can't find them on the PC, she probably "moved" them to
the trashcan. In which case they will still be on the memory card (but
invisible). Use Recuva on the memory card, and save them somewhere
"visible", like a new folder on your desktop.
DO NOT TAKE any pictures with that memory card until you have
recovered the old photos, or they will be overwritten.
Read the docs or tuts before you use it.

http://www.piriform.com/recuva/download
[]'s

(there is a portable version on the page, search for "Builds",
if you prefer portable)

Again, the OP has said nothing about his wife erasing the files on the
SD card...

This is not to say they didn't do so, but the verb he used in the post
was "copied".

When I extract pictures from my camera, I simply use Windows Explorer -
so it's a 'Copy' from the camera card, and then a 'Paste' into wherever
I want to put them (usually a pre-prepared, dated sub-folder in My
Pictures). Having checked that the paste has worked, and the pictures
are where they should be, I then delete them from the camera card.

I'm always wary of doing a 'Cut' instead of a 'Copy', because if the
paste fails, there is always the possibility that I'll be left with the
pictures deleted from the camera card, but no pictures in my computer
(although I believe that this shouldn't happen). Is it possible that the
OP's wife did something like this?

If the transfer of the pictures from camera did take place successfully,
one thing is certain - they must be lurking somewhere in the PC. The
only way out is via the recycling bin - and unless the PC has been set
up empty the bin automatically (either on shutdown or if it's full to
overflowing), the only other possibility is if it has been emptied
deliberately. Even then, if the OP hasn't been saving anything since the
pictures were lost, as has already been suggested there's a good chance
that one of the (free) file recovery programs will get them back.

If the pictures were simply mis-pasted, I have already suggested using
W7's 'Search', and filtering by 'Date modified' (ie when they were
copied from the camera) should find them. [Note that I didn't realise
that W7 Search is quite different from XP. At first it looks a bit of a
pig to use, but I think it will be OK if you RTFM]
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On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 22:20:50 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:


When I extract pictures from my camera, I simply use Windows Explorer -
so it's a 'Copy' from the camera card, and then a 'Paste' into wherever
I want to put them (usually a pre-prepared, dated sub-folder in My
Pictures). Having checked that the paste has worked, and the pictures
are where they should be, I then delete them from the camera card.

I'm always wary of doing a 'Cut' instead of a 'Copy', because if the
paste fails, there is always the possibility that I'll be left with the
pictures deleted from the camera card, but no pictures in my computer
(although I believe that this shouldn't happen).


I do the same.


Is it possible that the
OP's wife did something like this?


Sure it's possible. But the OP said nothing to suggest that.


If the transfer of the pictures from camera did take place successfully,
one thing is certain - they must be lurking somewhere in the PC. The
only way out is via the recycling bin - and unless the PC has been set
up empty the bin automatically (either on shutdown or if it's full to
overflowing), the only other possibility is if it has been emptied
deliberately. Even then, if the OP hasn't been saving anything since the
pictures were lost, as has already been suggested there's a good chance
that one of the (free) file recovery programs will get them back.

If the pictures were simply mis-pasted, I have already suggested using
W7's 'Search', and filtering by 'Date modified' (ie when they were
copied from the camera) should find them. [Note that I didn't realise
that W7 Search is quite different from XP. At first it looks a bit of a
pig to use, but I think it will be OK if you RTFM]
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On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 22:20:50 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:


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Sorry, this should have been part of my previous message, but I
neglected to add it.

Three points:

1. What you sent was not an e-mail, it was a Usenet post.

2. No anti-virus--neither Avast, nor any other--is perfect. Saying
that it is "free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus
protection is active" is nonsense.

3. Malware is "MALicious softWARE." A virus is a kind of malware, so
saying "viruses *and* malware" is also nonsense.

I assume that Avast added that line to your message, not you. I blame
Avast for the nonsense, not you.

On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:50:28 -0500, philo* wrote:

On 11/01/2013 05:41 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , philo writes
On 11/01/2013 02:48 PM, badgolferman wrote:
My wife copied pictures from a camera to the computer and she has no
idea where they went. She says she created a zip file too but has no
idea where that is either.....

The camera has a memory stick that goes into the computer. She said it
took hours for the pictures to download. I'm having trouble finding
where these files got saved. Is there a way to determine that using
the operating system? Would the OS change the date of the files when
copied to the computer?

Any help appreciated.




If she just used Windows Explorer, they'd be in "My Pictures"


Someone who cannot figure out how to find their photos is probably not
likely to be able to find their way back to this newsgroup so I did not
waste my time giving a detailed answer.

The OP has been here before, and the person who can't find the files is
the OP's main client (his wife).

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On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 22:15:29 +0000, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

In message , Gene E. Bloch
writes:
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 09:12:31 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 19:48:24 +0000 (UTC),
"badgolferman"
wrote:

My wife copied pictures from a camera to the computer and she has no

Did she read from the camera, or from the camera card taken out of the
camera and inserted into a reader on the computer (or on something
attached to it like a printer)?

idea where they went. She says she created a zip file too but has no
idea where that is either.....

Does she think she deleted the pictures from the camera (or card)? Does
she think she deleted them from where they were on the computer when she
made the .zip file?

The camera has a memory stick that goes into the computer. She said it
took hours for the pictures to download. I'm having trouble finding

If it was literally "hours", then that is significant, even for today's
huge (usually unnecessarily so!) images and cards. Is it possible she
was copying them to some network-connected location (and thus not on the
computer at all)? That might explain the slowness.

where these files got saved. Is there a way to determine that using
the operating system? Would the OS change the date of the files when
copied to the computer?

It wouldn't _usually_ change the date, in the sense of the normal file
date, of the files. In the sense of the date(s) embedded within the
files, i. e. the EXIF data recorded by the camera that shows (if the
camera clock/calendar was set correctly), then I wouldn't expect that to
be changed either - in fact even less likely. If the copying involved
the creation of folders (even if the same structure as was on the
source), then IME the new ones will have a new date.

Any help appreciated.

If all else fails, try examining the camera with
recovery software such as:
http://www.icare-recovery.com/

Just connect the camera to the computer and such
software can recover the old photos, but only if
they're not covered over by new ones.

That would perhaps be useful if the files on the memory card got lost,
but that isn't what happened here.

If you mean they were deleted rather than lost, then it probably _would_
still work (since such deletion doesn't usually overwrite). If you mean
that you have interpreted the question as asking where on the computer
they went to (especially if _not_ deleted from the camera - i. e. copied
rather than "moved"), then you are right, such recovery software
wouldn't answer _that_ question.

No, I mean that they were not removed, deleted, or lost from the card,
they were copied from the card, but not found on the PC.

That's according to the OP...

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On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:40:37 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 22:20:50 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

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Sorry, this should have been part of my previous message, but I
neglected to add it.

Three points:

1. What you sent was not an e-mail, it was a Usenet post.

2. No anti-virus--neither Avast, nor any other--is perfect. Saying
that it is "free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus
protection is active" is nonsense.

3. Malware is "MALicious softWARE." A virus is a kind of malware, so
saying "viruses *and* malware" is also nonsense.

I assume that Avast added that line to your message, not you. I blame
Avast for the nonsense, not you.

I assume the same, and it has the effect of making me reluctant to
switch from MSE to Avast, although I have considered doing that
recently.

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Paul wrote:

Go to Start, type "cmd", right-click when it finds "cmd"
and select "Run as Administrator".

That opens a Command Prompt windows with Administrator
privilege.

Then, in the Command Prompt window, try:

cd %userprofile%\downloads

dir /S C:\ c_listing.txt
notepad c_listing.txt

Thank you. This method worked the best. However I put the entire
listing in an Excel file and did a Find all for .jpg files which then
listed them all and made it easier to look at. The files are in My
Pictures but buried deep in a subfolder.

The wife removed all files from the SD card then put some back on it,
effectively making it impossible to retrieve them.

philo* wrote:

Someone who cannot figure out how to find their photos is probably
not likely to be able to find their way back to this newsgroup so I
did not waste my time giving a detailed answer.

Not sure if you're on ACF or the Windows newsgroup, but I have been on
ACF for at least ten years. But I can understand your attitude, usenet
is full of snobs.

Gene E. Bloch wrote...

I assume the same, and it has the effect of making me reluctant to
switch from MSE to Avast, although I have considered doing that
recently.

I changed from MSE to Avast a couple of months ago, If you choose
custom install, you can skip the Mail Shield which adds the silly sig
line and you can switch the sig off in a full install.
Avast works well and seems slightly faster than MSE, when booting.

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