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Old September 15th 17, 10:27 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Wolf K
writes:
On 2017-09-14 16:53, RH Draney wrote:
On 9/14/2017 12:47 PM, NY wrote:

1. Near me there are two villages called Welburn, and they are about
10 miles apart. I always clarify which one I mean by reference to the
nearest town ("The Welburn near Malton" or "The Welburn near
Kirkbymoorside"). With postcodes, there's less scope for confusion,
but before that, given that both are in the same county, there must
have been a lot of problems with mis-delivered mail.

They needn't be close together for that kind of confusion to
arise...witness this conversation from the 1990s:
Cow-orker:* "I may look into a job offer in Alexandria."
Me:* "Virginia, or Egypt?"
....r


I always specify that Austria is in Europe.

I remember a pleasing crossword clue - something like "Take a left from
one country to reach another".
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Old September 15th 17, 03:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:27:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Wolf K
writes:
On 2017-09-14 16:53, RH Draney wrote:
On 9/14/2017 12:47 PM, NY wrote:

1. Near me there are two villages called Welburn, and they are about
10 miles apart. I always clarify which one I mean by reference to the
nearest town ("The Welburn near Malton" or "The Welburn near
Kirkbymoorside"). With postcodes, there's less scope for confusion,
but before that, given that both are in the same county, there must
have been a lot of problems with mis-delivered mail.
They needn't be close together for that kind of confusion to
arise...witness this conversation from the 1990s:
Cow-orker:* "I may look into a job offer in Alexandria."
Me:* "Virginia, or Egypt?"
....r


I always specify that Austria is in Europe.

I remember a pleasing crossword clue - something like "Take a left from
one country to reach another".



Great! I had to read that a couple of times before I got it.

I like British crosswords much more than American crosswords, so I
finally understood it, but for most of the American here, you might
want to explain what "a left" is in that clue.

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Old September 15th 17, 07:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Ken Blake
writes:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:27:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Wolf K
writes:
On 2017-09-14 16:53, RH Draney wrote:
On 9/14/2017 12:47 PM, NY wrote:

1. Near me there are two villages called Welburn, and they are about
10 miles apart. I always clarify which one I mean by reference to the
nearest town ("The Welburn near Malton" or "The Welburn near
Kirkbymoorside"). With postcodes, there's less scope for confusion,
but before that, given that both are in the same county, there must
have been a lot of problems with mis-delivered mail.
They needn't be close together for that kind of confusion to
arise...witness this conversation from the 1990s:
Cow-orker:* "I may look into a job offer in Alexandria."
Me:* "Virginia, or Egypt?"
....r

I always specify that Austria is in Europe.

I remember a pleasing crossword clue - something like "Take a left from
one country to reach another".



Great! I had to read that a couple of times before I got it.


Glad you liked it! It wasn't mine - one I saw in a real crossword.

I like British crosswords much more than American crosswords, so I
finally understood it, but for most of the American here, you might
want to explain what "a left" is in that clue.

Really? I thought "take a left" as shorthand for "take a left turn" was
something we'd imported from American English.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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Bang! ...crumple." - Jery Oltion
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Old September 15th 17, 09:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 19:15:24 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Blake
writes:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:27:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Wolf K
writes:
On 2017-09-14 16:53, RH Draney wrote:
On 9/14/2017 12:47 PM, NY wrote:

1. Near me there are two villages called Welburn, and they are about
10 miles apart. I always clarify which one I mean by reference to the
nearest town ("The Welburn near Malton" or "The Welburn near
Kirkbymoorside"). With postcodes, there's less scope for confusion,
but before that, given that both are in the same county, there must
have been a lot of problems with mis-delivered mail.
They needn't be close together for that kind of confusion to
arise...witness this conversation from the 1990s:
Cow-orker:* "I may look into a job offer in Alexandria."
Me:* "Virginia, or Egypt?"
....r

I always specify that Austria is in Europe.

I remember a pleasing crossword clue - something like "Take a left from
one country to reach another".



Great! I had to read that a couple of times before I got it.


Glad you liked it! It wasn't mine - one I saw in a real crossword.


I hope you'll share the answer, if you remember it. From there, perhaps
I could work backwards to figure out the clue.

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Old September 15th 17, 09:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 19:15:24 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Blake
writes:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:27:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Wolf K
writes:
On 2017-09-14 16:53, RH Draney wrote:
On 9/14/2017 12:47 PM, NY wrote:

1. Near me there are two villages called Welburn, and they are about
10 miles apart. I always clarify which one I mean by reference to the
nearest town ("The Welburn near Malton" or "The Welburn near
Kirkbymoorside"). With postcodes, there's less scope for confusion,
but before that, given that both are in the same county, there must
have been a lot of problems with mis-delivered mail.
They needn't be close together for that kind of confusion to
arise...witness this conversation from the 1990s:
Cow-orker:* "I may look into a job offer in Alexandria."
Me:* "Virginia, or Egypt?"
....r

I always specify that Austria is in Europe.

I remember a pleasing crossword clue - something like "Take a left from
one country to reach another".


Great! I had to read that a couple of times before I got it.


Glad you liked it! It wasn't mine - one I saw in a real crossword.


I hope you'll share the answer, if you remember it. From there, perhaps
I could work backwards to figure out the clue.

Austria.
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Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets
you. - Jeremy Clarkson, Top Gear
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Old September 15th 17, 10:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
Peter Duncanson [BrE]
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 15:28:57 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 19:15:24 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Blake
writes:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:27:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Wolf K
writes:
On 2017-09-14 16:53, RH Draney wrote:
On 9/14/2017 12:47 PM, NY wrote:

1. Near me there are two villages called Welburn, and they are about
10 miles apart. I always clarify which one I mean by reference to the
nearest town ("The Welburn near Malton" or "The Welburn near
Kirkbymoorside"). With postcodes, there's less scope for confusion,
but before that, given that both are in the same county, there must
have been a lot of problems with mis-delivered mail.
They needn't be close together for that kind of confusion to
arise...witness this conversation from the 1990s:
Cow-orker:* "I may look into a job offer in Alexandria."
Me:* "Virginia, or Egypt?"
....r

I always specify that Austria is in Europe.

I remember a pleasing crossword clue - something like "Take a left from
one country to reach another".


Great! I had to read that a couple of times before I got it.


Glad you liked it! It wasn't mine - one I saw in a real crossword.


I hope you'll share the answer, if you remember it. From there, perhaps
I could work backwards to figure out the clue.


J. P. Gilliver's mention of the crossword clue "Take a left from
one country to reach another" was triggered by Wolf K's mention of
Austria.

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
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Old September 15th 17, 10:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
Adam Funk
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On 2017-09-15, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

In message , Ken Blake
writes:


I like British crosswords much more than American crosswords, so I
finally understood it, but for most of the American here, you might
want to explain what "a left" is in that clue.

Really? I thought "take a left" as shorthand for "take a left turn" was
something we'd imported from American English.


Isn't there a song with a chorus (or even the title) like "two wrongs
don't make a right but three lefts do"?


--
A Discordian is Prohibited of Believing What he Reads.
_Principia Discordia_
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Old September 15th 17, 10:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
RH Draney
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On 9/15/2017 2:13 PM, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 15:28:57 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 19:15:24 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Blake
writes:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:27:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Wolf K
writes:

I remember a pleasing crossword clue - something like "Take a left from
one country to reach another".

Great! I had to read that a couple of times before I got it.

Glad you liked it! It wasn't mine - one I saw in a real crossword.


I hope you'll share the answer, if you remember it. From there, perhaps
I could work backwards to figure out the clue.


J. P. Gilliver's mention of the crossword clue "Take a left from
one country to reach another" was triggered by Wolf K's mention of
Austria.


A couple of years ago, a Jeopardy! final clue went something like "apart
from Austria/Australia, the only pair of countries whose names differ by
the inclusion or omission of two letters"...only one of the contestants
was able to come up with the response "Niger/Nigeria" which Alex
accepted....

I sat there staring at the TV afterwards wondering why he hadn't said
anything about my own immediate response upon hearing the clue:
"Mali/Malawi"....r

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Old September 16th 17, 08:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
Snidely
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J. P. Gilliver (John) explained :
In message , Ken Blake
writes:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:27:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Wolf K
writes:
On 2017-09-14 16:53, RH Draney wrote:
On 9/14/2017 12:47 PM, NY wrote:

1. Near me there are two villages called Welburn, and they are about
10 miles apart. I always clarify which one I mean by reference to the
nearest town ("The Welburn near Malton" or "The Welburn near
Kirkbymoorside"). With postcodes, there's less scope for confusion,
but before that, given that both are in the same county, there must
have been a lot of problems with mis-delivered mail.
They needn't be close together for that kind of confusion to
arise...witness this conversation from the 1990s:
Cow-orker:* "I may look into a job offer in Alexandria."
Me:* "Virginia, or Egypt?"
....r

I always specify that Austria is in Europe.

I remember a pleasing crossword clue - something like "Take a left from
one country to reach another".



Great! I had to read that a couple of times before I got it.


Glad you liked it! It wasn't mine - one I saw in a real crossword.

I like British crosswords much more than American crosswords, so I
finally understood it, but for most of the American here, you might
want to explain what "a left" is in that clue.

Really? I thought "take a left" as shorthand for "take a left turn" was
something we'd imported from American English.


It's applying the eft to Oz that's my sticking point.

/dps

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In case of fire, exit the building before tweeting about it.
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Old September 16th 17, 08:32 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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On 16/09/17 17:04, Snidely wrote:
J. P. Gilliver (John) explained :
In message , Ken Blake
writes:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:27:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Wolf K
writes:
On 2017-09-14 16:53, RH Draney wrote:
On 9/14/2017 12:47 PM, NY wrote:

1. Near me there are two villages called Welburn, and they are about
10 miles apart. I always clarify which one I mean by reference to
the
nearest town ("The Welburn near Malton" or "The Welburn near
Kirkbymoorside"). With postcodes, there's less scope for confusion,
but before that, given that both are in the same county, there must
have been a lot of problems with mis-delivered mail.
They needn't be close together for that kind of confusion to
arise...witness this conversation from the 1990s:
Cow-orker: "I may look into a job offer in Alexandria."
Me: "Virginia, or Egypt?"
....r

I always specify that Austria is in Europe.

I remember a pleasing crossword clue - something like "Take a left from
one country to reach another".


Great! I had to read that a couple of times before I got it.


Glad you liked it! It wasn't mine - one I saw in a real crossword.

I like British crosswords much more than American crosswords, so I
finally understood it, but for most of the American here, you might
want to explain what "a left" is in that clue.

Really? I thought "take a left" as shorthand for "take a left turn"
was something we'd imported from American English.


It's applying the eft to Oz that's my sticking point.


It's common in crosswords to let a clue stand for an abbreviation of
some kind. For example, a reference to a medico might give you the
substring DR or MO as part of the solution, and "cardinal" might end up
meaning one of the letters N, S, E, W.

Using "right" to mean R or "left" to mean L is going a bit too far, in
my opinion, although it's true that L and R are sometimes used with
these meanings. (When painting hints on shoes, for example, when you
can't remember which shoe goes on which foot.) Still, it's done, so "a
left" can refer to the letter sequence AL. In this clue "take" has one
of its usual meanings: remove.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
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Old September 16th 17, 01:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 21:58:05 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 19:15:24 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Ken Blake
writes:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:27:09 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Wolf K
writes:
On 2017-09-14 16:53, RH Draney wrote:
On 9/14/2017 12:47 PM, NY wrote:

1. Near me there are two villages called Welburn, and they are about
10 miles apart. I always clarify which one I mean by reference to the
nearest town ("The Welburn near Malton" or "The Welburn near
Kirkbymoorside"). With postcodes, there's less scope for confusion,
but before that, given that both are in the same county, there must
have been a lot of problems with mis-delivered mail.
They needn't be close together for that kind of confusion to
arise...witness this conversation from the 1990s:
Cow-orker:* "I may look into a job offer in Alexandria."
Me:* "Virginia, or Egypt?"
....r

I always specify that Austria is in Europe.

I remember a pleasing crossword clue - something like "Take a left from
one country to reach another".


Great! I had to read that a couple of times before I got it.

Glad you liked it! It wasn't mine - one I saw in a real crossword.


I hope you'll share the answer, if you remember it. From there, perhaps
I could work backwards to figure out the clue.

Austria.


Thanks, John. In that case, I'm puzzled by the folks who thought the
clue was creative. I think it's awful.

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Old September 16th 17, 03:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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"Wolf K" wrote in message
...
Thanks, John. In that case, I'm puzzled by the folks who thought the
clue was creative. I think it's awful.


"Awful" meaning "trite"? Or "trivially easy to decode"?

How about "Scrambled brains for Scottish babies?"?


Nice one.

The one I saw in a gardening crossword was "Sounds like there's a bony
mother kept in reserve".

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Old September 16th 17, 06:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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In article ,
lid says...
I'm puzzled by the folks who thought the
clue was creative. I think it's awful.

And here, a bit contrived I thought.

One of the best clues I ever saw was...

hijklmno

5 Letters


--
Ken
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Old September 16th 17, 06:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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In article ,
UnsteadyKen wrote:

One of the best clues I ever saw was...

hijklmno

5 Letters


They include the following eight (8)

-- Richard
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Old September 16th 17, 06:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.usage.english,alt.windows7.general
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UnsteadyKen wrote:

One of the best clues I ever saw was...

hijklmno

5 Letters


Now I don't normally 'get' crosswords, but

v
v
v
v
v
v
v
v
v
v
v
v
v
v
v
v
v
v
v

water (h to o)

 




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