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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You Know It
MS has it wrong. I'll keep my pc and run Linux.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3293429/microsoft-windows/with-daas-windows-coming-say-goodbye-to-your-pc-as-you-know-it.html |
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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You Know It
"Anonymous" wrote
| MS has it wrong. I'll keep my pc and run Linux. | | https://www.computerworld.com/article/3293429/microsoft-windows/with-daas-windows-coming-say-goodbye-to-your-pc-as-you-know-it.html | You should also read the article linked, from Mary Jo Foley. She makes her living being a Microsoft cheerleader and generally has her facts straight, albeit skewed to make MS look good. What she seems to be saying is that MS is heading toward offering Windows as a rental for corporate customers. For those people it already is a rental, to some extent. The situation now is that they usually rent yearly, by seat or by install. Microsoft forces corporate customers into that bind by threatening to pull swat-team-style audits otherwise. Then they charge a fortune if they find any illegal copies. So it's easier for companies to just let MS gouge them for seat rentals. The DaaS idea would have companies rent the whole thing, monthly. Microsoft would be the IT dept. That might be by force or it might be an option. That doesn't seem to be clear. That will probably be coming eventually to Win10 Pro and Home. Win10 is already halfway there. The main difference is that people aren't actually paying rent. But if MS doesn't make a lot of money from ads and trinket apps they probably will charge rent. And by then most people won't be able to say no. Nevertheless, Computerworld, twisted the story and made up a dramatic crisis out of thin air. The author says straight out that MS are replacing Win10 with a rental you'll have no control over. There's no basis at all for that statement that I can find. |
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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You Know It
On 07/31/2018 9:14 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Anonymous" wrote | MS has it wrong. I'll keep my pc and run Linux. | | https://www.computerworld.com/article/3293429/microsoft-windows/with-daas-windows-coming-say-goodbye-to-your-pc-as-you-know-it.html | You should also read the article linked, from Mary Jo Foley. She makes her living being a Microsoft cheerleader and generally has her facts straight, albeit skewed to make MS look good. What she seems to be saying is that MS is heading toward offering Windows as a rental for corporate customers. For those people it already is a rental, to some extent. The situation now is that they usually rent yearly, by seat or by install. Microsoft forces corporate customers into that bind by threatening to pull swat-team-style audits otherwise. Then they charge a fortune if they find any illegal copies. So it's easier for companies to just let MS gouge them for seat rentals. The DaaS idea would have companies rent the whole thing, monthly. Microsoft would be the IT dept. That might be by force or it might be an option. That doesn't seem to be clear. That will probably be coming eventually to Win10 Pro and Home. Win10 is already halfway there. The main difference is that people aren't actually paying rent. But if MS doesn't make a lot of money from ads and trinket apps they probably will charge rent. And by then most people won't be able to say no. Nevertheless, Computerworld, twisted the story and made up a dramatic crisis out of thin air. The author says straight out that MS are replacing Win10 with a rental you'll have no control over. There's no basis at all for that statement that I can find. I'm not likely to jump off a bridge over that overblown article. Rene |
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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You KnowIt
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 07/31/2018 9:14 PM, Mayayana wrote: "Anonymous" wrote MS has it wrong. I'll keep my pc and run Linux. https://www.computerworld.com/article/3293429/microsoft-windows/with-daas-windows-coming-say-goodbye-to-your-pc-as-you-know-it.html Nevertheless, Computerworld, twisted the story and made up a dramatic crisis out of thin air. The author says straight out that MS are replacing Win10 with a rental you'll have no control over. There's no basis at all for that statement that I can find. I'm not likely to jump off a bridge over that overblown article. Rene Not after the recent changes to the org chart at Microsoft. Windows is a lubricant for other parts of their business plan. But a rental model (which was their initial business plan for Windows 10) just isn't going to happen. Seven dollars a month times zero consumers is zero. Paul |
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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You Know It
MS has it wrong. I'll keep my pc and run Linux. https://www.computerworld.com/article/3293429/microsoft-windows/with-daas-windows-coming-say-goodbye-to-your-pc-as-you-know-it.html Someone will put a running vmware version of W7 and W10 out and everyone can use it. MS has been spying on us with W10 and I don't think that many individual users are going to be willing to pay MS monthly to use their spyware. I think that DaaS Windows is going to be the end of MS for home users. |
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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You KnowIt
On 7/31/2018 6:50 PM, Anonymous wrote:
MS has it wrong. I'll keep my pc and run Linux. https://www.computerworld.com/article/3293429/microsoft-windows/with-daas-windows-coming-say-goodbye-to-your-pc-as-you-know-it.html It's inevitable. Won't be long before that power switch is replaced by a credit card reader. MS underestimated Android in the phone market. They might fail again with the desktop. |
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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You Know It
mike writes:
MS underestimated Android in the phone market. They might fail again with the desktop. Here's hoping (for Microsoft's demise). But I think it's more like a paradigm shift happened. Absolutely nothing threatens Microsoft on the PC desktop, it's just that people are moving away to Android and iOS and making the PC desktop irrelevant. Much like the PC made mainframes irrelevant. IBM is still pretty strong in mainframes but it's not much of a market. |
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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You Know It
In article , Anssi Saari
wrote: MS underestimated Android in the phone market. They might fail again with the desktop. Here's hoping (for Microsoft's demise). But I think it's more like a paradigm shift happened. Absolutely nothing threatens Microsoft on the PC desktop, quite a bit does. chromebooks are very strong in education and web apps (mainly google) are winning out over ms office. it's just that people are moving away to Android and iOS and making the PC desktop irrelevant. Much like the PC made mainframes irrelevant. IBM is still pretty strong in mainframes but it's not much of a market. yep. |
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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You Know It
nospam wrote:
In article , Anssi Saari wrote: MS underestimated Android in the phone market. They might fail again with the desktop. Here's hoping (for Microsoft's demise). But I think it's more like a paradigm shift happened. Absolutely nothing threatens Microsoft on the PC desktop, quite a bit does. chromebooks are very strong in education and web apps (mainly google) are winning out over ms office. Not in the UK. Schools and universities are wall to wall MS. Which is particularly depressing given the lack of money in schools. |
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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You Know It
On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 07:04:51 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
Schools and universities are wall to wall MS. Which is particularly depressing given the lack of money in schools. But a look round many student groups shows a preponderance of apple laptops/tablets. Maybe it's the student discount that helps. (strange cross posting groupmix adjusted) |
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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You Know It
On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 10:28:10 +0100, mechanic
wrote: On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 07:04:51 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: Schools and universities are wall to wall MS. Which is particularly depressing given the lack of money in schools. But a look round many student groups shows a preponderance of apple laptops/tablets. Maybe it's the student discount that helps. (strange cross posting groupmix adjusted) Also Apple dominates TV shots. I can't remember ever seeing a PC on TV running a MS system. Despite that I am running W7 and have not seen a reason to update. Steve -- http://www.npsnn.com |
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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You Know It
On 2018-08-01 09:04, Chris wrote:
nospam wrote: In article , Anssi Saari wrote: MS underestimated Android in the phone market. They might fail again with the desktop. Here's hoping (for Microsoft's demise). But I think it's more like a paradigm shift happened. Absolutely nothing threatens Microsoft on the PC desktop, quite a bit does. chromebooks are very strong in education and web apps (mainly google) are winning out over ms office. Not in the UK. Schools and universities are wall to wall MS. Which is particularly depressing given the lack of money in schools. I was in a classroom a few years back here (Spain), and the funny thing was that the school officially embraced free software; yet the teachers wrote their pieces on Word instead of LibreOffice, so the students did the same (without licenses). Someone really using LO had a bit of a problem because the formatting often is not accurately converted. Most of the people I saw used Windows and Office without licenses, so MS was getting nothing - except that the people got familiar with MS and demand MS products later. -- Cheers, Carlos. |
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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You Know It
On 01/08/18 11:02, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2018-08-01 09:04, Chris wrote: nospam wrote: In article , Anssi Saari wrote: MS underestimated Android in the phone market. They might fail again with the desktop. Here's hoping (for Microsoft's demise). But I think it's more like a paradigm shift happened. Absolutely nothing threatens Microsoft on the PC desktop, quite a bit does. chromebooks are very strong in education and web apps (mainly google) are winning out over ms office. Not in the UK. Schools and universities are wall to wall MS. Which is particularly depressing given the lack of money in schools. I was in a classroom a few years back here (Spain), and the funny thing was that the school officially embraced free software; yet the teachers wrote their pieces on Word instead of LibreOffice, so the students did the same (without licenses). Someone really using LO had a bit of a problem because the formatting often is not accurately converted. I have found thats generally NOT an issue if the same fonts are installed Most of the people I saw used Windows and Office without licenses, so MS was getting nothing - except that the people got familiar with MS and demand MS products later. Mmm. But companies are just rubbish really. I mean would you believe a company that prints from WORD onto letterhead PAPER, scans the result and emails it as a PDF? -- "The great thing about Glasgow is that if there's a nuclear attack it'll look exactly the same afterwards." Billy Connolly |
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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You Know It
"Rene Lamontagne" wrote
| Nevertheless, Computerworld, twisted the story | and made up a dramatic crisis out of thin air. The | author says straight out that MS are replacing Win10 | with a rental you'll have no control over. There's no | basis at all for that statement that I can find. | | I'm not likely to jump off a bridge over that overblown article. | Just as well. Your Surface as a Service probably isn't water-resistant. |
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With DaaS Windows Coming, Say Goodbye To Your PC As You Know It
On 01/08/18 12:51, Mayayana wrote:
"Rene Lamontagne" wrote | Nevertheless, Computerworld, twisted the story | and made up a dramatic crisis out of thin air. The | author says straight out that MS are replacing Win10 | with a rental you'll have no control over. There's no | basis at all for that statement that I can find. | | I'm not likely to jump off a bridge over that overblown article. | Just as well. Your Surface as a Service probably isn't water-resistant. Seriously though, isn't notebook as a service what a chromebook is? Or smartphone as a service, android? Indeed Liux itself is desktop as a service, except its free...It's all about where the line is drawn between stuff that is upgraded centrally and installed on your computer or upgraded cenrally and NOT permanently stored on your computer, and if you actually care. -- Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is that they are dead. Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners. |
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