Wanted. A rotatable screen.

I don't want a second computer screen because of
desk clutter.

Does there exist a screen physically rotatable
from landscape to portrait?

PJ

On 09/12/2018 6:29 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
I don't want a second computer screen because of
desk clutter.

Does there exist a screen physically rotatable
from landscape to portrait?

PJ


Take a peak here

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2042...landscape.html


Rene

Peter Jason wrote:
I don't want a second computer screen because of
desk clutter.

Does there exist a screen physically rotatable
from landscape to portrait?

PJ

The keyword is "pivot".

The monitor has a donut shaped ring with a steel
ball bearing in it. When you pivot the screen, the
screen interrupts the signals to the computer for
a moment, and the computer re-reads the EDID. The
EDID in turn, gives portrait dimensions, like
2160x3840, and the video card then automatically
adjusts to the new characteristics. Thus, when you
pivot, you expect the view to be reconfigured
without you doing anything with keyboard/mouse.

The "orientation sensor" is small, and only works
as well as a cheesy steel ball travels around
a toroidal path. The sensor is probably smaller
than 1/2" in dimension per side.

So how big do you want it ? This one is "4K" and
is 32" diagonal, and would be a monster to pivot.
You need a video card with the right HDMI or
DisplayPort standard, to drive this at 60FPS.
You want to spend extra time reviewing the stand
for one of these, to see whether it's up to the
job of pivoting or not.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16824236457

And, you want "178 degree H/178 degree V" viewing
angle. By using an IPS panel, when you pivot the
panel, it looks as good that way, as it does in the
"normal" orientation. Don't buy a TN panel, or you'll
be leaning in your chair trying to make the colors
look right. TN is horrible even in the normal
orientation, but would be hell when rotated. Insisting
on a 178/178 set of viewing angles ensures a good panel
(at a rich price).

Paul

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 09:29:35 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

I don't want a second computer screen because of
desk clutter.

Does there exist a screen physically rotatable
from landscape to portrait?

All screens.


PJ

On 9/12/2018 6:25 PM, Paul wrote:
Peter Jason wrote:
I don't want a second computer screen because of
desk clutter.

Does there exist a screen physically rotatable
from landscape to portrait?

PJ

The keyword is "pivot".

The monitor has a donut shaped ring with a steel
ball bearing in it. When you pivot the screen, the
screen interrupts the signals to the computer for
a moment, and the computer re-reads the EDID. The
EDID in turn, gives portrait dimensions, like
2160x3840, and the video card then automatically
adjusts to the new characteristics. Thus, when you
pivot, you expect the view to be reconfigured
without you doing anything with keyboard/mouse.

The "orientation sensor" is small, and only works
as well as a cheesy steel ball travels around
a toroidal path. The sensor is probably smaller
than 1/2" in dimension per side.

So how big do you want it ? This one is "4K" and
is 32" diagonal, and would be a monster to pivot.
You need a video card with the right HDMI or
DisplayPort standard, to drive this at 60FPS.
You want to spend extra time reviewing the stand
for one of these, to see whether it's up to the
job of pivoting or not.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16824236457

And, you want "178 degree H/178 degree V" viewing
angle. By using an IPS panel, when you pivot the
panel, it looks as good that way, as it does in the
"normal" orientation. Don't buy a TN panel, or you'll
be leaning in your chair trying to make the colors
look right. TN is horrible even in the normal
orientation, but would be hell when rotated. Insisting
on a 178/178 set of viewing angles ensures a good panel
(at a rich price).

Paul
I have a pivotable display by Gateway.

To Pivot it, all I have to do is:
Remove everything from the table in the vicinity of the display
Unplug the USB cables from the side cuz they aren't long
enough to reach the top
Pull two feet of slack in the video/power cables on the bottom
Use two hands to hold the base down.
Use two more hands to raise the display and tilt it back so
it will clear the base.
Use two more hands to rotate the display.
Manually adjust the display resolution, cuz I ain't got no
pivot sensor.
Not use the switch bar that's now hidden by the display top.

If you have things on your desktop, they might move when you
rotate the screen, and likely not the way you want.

I did it once...never again.
Point being that having a pivot ain't the only thing you have
to worry about.

My display is 24". A big widescreen would be a nightmare.
Another 24" mounted on a post left of the original is a far
better solution if you can manage it.

On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:55:02 -0700, mike
wrote:

On 9/12/2018 6:25 PM, Paul wrote:
Peter Jason wrote:
I don't want a second computer screen because of
desk clutter.

Does there exist a screen physically rotatable
from landscape to portrait?

PJ

The keyword is "pivot".

The monitor has a donut shaped ring with a steel
ball bearing in it. When you pivot the screen, the
screen interrupts the signals to the computer for
a moment, and the computer re-reads the EDID. The
EDID in turn, gives portrait dimensions, like
2160x3840, and the video card then automatically
adjusts to the new characteristics. Thus, when you
pivot, you expect the view to be reconfigured
without you doing anything with keyboard/mouse.

The "orientation sensor" is small, and only works
as well as a cheesy steel ball travels around
a toroidal path. The sensor is probably smaller
than 1/2" in dimension per side.

So how big do you want it ? This one is "4K" and
is 32" diagonal, and would be a monster to pivot.
You need a video card with the right HDMI or
DisplayPort standard, to drive this at 60FPS.
You want to spend extra time reviewing the stand
for one of these, to see whether it's up to the
job of pivoting or not.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16824236457

And, you want "178 degree H/178 degree V" viewing
angle. By using an IPS panel, when you pivot the
panel, it looks as good that way, as it does in the
"normal" orientation. Don't buy a TN panel, or you'll
be leaning in your chair trying to make the colors
look right. TN is horrible even in the normal
orientation, but would be hell when rotated. Insisting
on a 178/178 set of viewing angles ensures a good panel
(at a rich price).

Paul
I have a pivotable display by Gateway.

To Pivot it, all I have to do is:
Remove everything from the table in the vicinity of the display
Unplug the USB cables from the side cuz they aren't long
enough to reach the top
Pull two feet of slack in the video/power cables on the bottom
Use two hands to hold the base down.
Use two more hands to raise the display and tilt it back so
it will clear the base.
Use two more hands to rotate the display.
Manually adjust the display resolution, cuz I ain't got no
pivot sensor.
Not use the switch bar that's now hidden by the display top.

If you have things on your desktop, they might move when you
rotate the screen, and likely not the way you want.

I did it once...never again.
Point being that having a pivot ain't the only thing you have
to worry about.

My display is 24". A big widescreen would be a nightmare.
Another 24" mounted on a post left of the original is a far
better solution if you can manage it.

Yes, I might try a second screen. I suppose it
can be a cheaper sort if used for text..

Peter Jason wrote:

Does there exist a screen physically rotatable
from landscape to portrait?


https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rotatable+monitor

Seek, and ye shall find plenty of them.

On 09/12/2018 8:25 PM, Paul wrote:
Peter Jason wrote:
I don't want a second computer screen because of
desk clutter.

Does there exist a screen physically rotatable
from landscape to portrait?

PJ

The keyword is "pivot".

The monitor has a donut shaped ring with a steel
ball bearing in it. When you pivot the screen, the
screen interrupts the signals to the computer for
a moment, and the computer re-reads the EDID. The
EDID in turn, gives portrait dimensions, like
2160x3840, and the video card then automatically
adjusts to the new characteristics. Thus, when you
pivot, you expect the view to be reconfigured
without you doing anything with keyboard/mouse.

The "orientation sensor" is small, and only works
as well as a cheesy steel ball travels around
a toroidal path. The sensor is probably smaller
than 1/2" in dimension per side.

So how big do you want it ? This one is "4K" and
is 32" diagonal, and would be a monster to pivot.
You need a video card with the right HDMI or
DisplayPort standard, to drive this at 60FPS.
You want to spend extra time reviewing the stand
for one of these, to see whether it's up to the
job of pivoting or not.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16824236457

And, you want "178 degree H/178 degree V" viewing
angle. By using an IPS panel, when you pivot the
panel, it looks as good that way, as it does in the
"normal" orientation. Don't buy a TN panel, or you'll
be leaning in your chair trying to make the colors
look right. TN is horrible even in the normal
orientation, but would be hell when rotated. Insisting
on a 178/178 set of viewing angles ensures a good panel
(at a rich price).

Â*Â* Paul

Yes, Listen to Paul, DO NOT buy a TN panel, they are crappy in smaller
sizes and absolutely horrible in the Larger sizes, Stick to an IPS panel .


I owned a Viewsonic 21 inch once and I used the pivot feature 2 or 3
times then never bothered again, It was really only useful for word
processing.

Rene

On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 09:29:35 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

I don't want a second computer screen because of
desk clutter.

Does there exist a screen physically rotatable
from landscape to portrait?

I have such a screen - Dell U2412M, which is a 1920 x 1200 pixels
display. I found it to be very awkward to change from landscape to
portrait and back to landscape. As a result I relocated it to an
older PC and replaced it with an LG 27" screen with a resolution of
1920 x 1080 pixels. This turned out to be an excellent screen that I
bought another one for my backup PC.

When creating documents that will be printed to A4 paper I find that
the height on the screen is the same size as a sheet of paper, so a
whole page is visible on the screen in its normal size. I should
mention that I have the task bar on the RHS of the screen rather than
at the bottom - but was an adjustment that I first used when XP was
released.

You can see a picture of how it looks at:
https://postimg.cc/image/ixdxi6py1/